TIL: Today I Learned

[aimeeandbeatles]

In the first Civilization, when I first played I didn't know how to found cities.

So...what did you do?

 

[Synobun]

So...what did you do?

Yes.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Yes.

No!

 

[Chukchi Husky]

So...what did you do?

Move the settler over the nearest village, sometimes the villagers found a city.

 

[AmazonQueen]

When I first got Civ I my game crashed every time I got the rifling tech. Since you could conquer the world before then or reach space w/o it that wasn't too bad but I used to get nervous when the AI had tanks and aircraft and I still had muskets.

 

[ori]

YIL that while in the UK, and I thought most of Europe, the 11th November is known as remembrance day, in East Asia it is the biggest online shopping day of the year, "Singles Day", about being single, or not, or something.

the only thing 11/11 is thought of around these parts is the beginning of carnival season

 

[AmazonQueen]

the only thing 11/11 is thought of around these parts is the beginning of carnival season

isn't National Day of Mourning your equivalent in which case it seems to be about a week later than our Remembrance Sunday?

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

When I first got Civ I my game crashed every time I got the rifling tech. Since you could conquer the world before then or reach space w/o it that wasn't too bad but I used to get nervous when the AI had tanks and aircraft and I still had muskets.

I think there was a glitch I ran into where the game crashed because the advisor wasn't able to suggest a building.

 

[rah]

I remember my first game of civ I. I wandered a turn to see if maybe there was a better place to settle rome and a greek chariot popped up and killed me. Game over. Took all of about 10 seconds.

 

[Synobun]

I remember my first game of civ I. I wandered a turn to see if maybe there was a better place to settle rome and a greek chariot popped up and killed me. Game over. Took all of about 10 seconds.

Puts hair on your chest.

 

[rah]

It sure made me wonder why everyone was saying what a great game it was.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

I wasn't really able to get into it until Civ 2.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I think I was clear enough. How would you have phrased it?

It seems to me that believing myths and accepting oral tradition as potentially valuable are two different things.Yes, the lines can get fuzzy. Aboriginal myths can be very ... different and certainly confusing in the least. Oral tradition about sea levels seems much less like mythology and more like an attempt at reporting. Genesis, with its multiple authors/sources appears to be a mix of both oral tradition reporting and myth building.

BJ, you're normally clear on what you're saying but I genuinely have no clue where this stuff is coming from. Evil technology? Stopping progress? Disparagement of oral tradition?

I mean, I dislike myths, and oral tradition, and generally don't adhere to the philosophy that the past was better. I like the western lifestyle, for the most part. But the vehement resistance to aboriginals being right about something is... strange. And really sudden. Can't it just be cool that some truth is found in an orally passed down myth? What's with the "superior primitive wisdom?"

Those remarks were somewhat hastily composed because i was going out and needed more effort on my part. I was poking at a common idea that primitive peoples possessed wisdom about life and living that we have lost in our "modern" post HG and agriculture society. As it were, if they were so smart, why didn't they see the rise of change as the doom of that wisdom? primitive peoples were very practical and knew how to survive and adapt, but nothing more. The noble savage. I do not subscribe to such thinking. "Words are like slippery pigs...." Mea culpa in my haste to post.

We now return to our regularly scheduled program.

 

[Lexicus]

It seems to me that believing myths and accepting oral tradition as potentially valuable are two different things.Yes, the lines can get fuzzy. Aboriginal myths can be very ... different and certainly confusing in the least. Oral tradition about sea levels seems much less like mythology and more like an attempt at reporting. Genesis, with its multiple authors/sources appears to be a mix of both oral tradition reporting and myth building.

This doesn't answer my question.

 

[Birdjaguar]

OK "Some people think that Aboriginal oral tradition demonstrates knowledge of and accurately describe the geology and ecology of Australia from 10,000 or more years ago."

 

[Berzerker]

Myths about one people and one language might be far older, maybe even 200+ kya when we all lived somewhere in Africa.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Myths about one people and one language might be far older, maybe even 200+ kya when we all lived somewhere in Africa.

Wait, how did people even get to Australia? My galleys always sink when I send them into the ocean.

 

[Synobun]

Wait, how did people even get to Australia? My galleys always sink when I send them into the ocean.

Wrong ship. Wait until caravels, or start as the Polynesian civilization and use these bad boys.

 

[Berzerker]

Wait, how did people even get to Australia? My galleys always sink when I send them into the ocean.

galleys can cross straits

 

[Lexicus]

Wait, how did people even get to Australia? My galleys always sink when I send them into the ocean.

Playing as Seafaring civilization also reduces the chances of galleys sinking in the open seas and ocean