Abaddon
Deity
Get a better job me thinks.
Tip the pizza delivery driver!
- Thread starter Bugfatty300
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It's not expected here and the whole idea seems very alien to me. But sure, I'd have no objection to tip pizza guy over there now that I know even though I feel that your system isn't fair either to the delivery guy or to the client. By the way, how do you decide who's supposed to be tipped and who's not (like pizza guy
but grocery store clerk 
)?
Abaddon
Deity
I never tip, i don't know if its different, but here in the UK, you pay for delivery.. damned if im paying anymore!
It's kinda' like grammar. A lot of it's obvious (to us) and the rest is not. We actually read books on the subject over here.By the way, how do you decide who's supposed to be tipped and who's not (like pizza guy
Che Guava
The Juicy Revolutionary
It's kinda' like grammar. A lot of it's obvious and the rest is not. We actually read books on the subject over here.
Seems to change from region to region too. I know here in Nova Scotia there's a lot more tipping than back in Ontario. Until I came here, I had never seen someone tip the cashier at Tim Horton's before...
Asher
Warlord
Oh okay. Some places tax the tip amount as income, while cash is more wink-wink-nudge-nudge under the table I thought.It doesn't really matter to me. If you put the tip on the slip we get it at the end of the shift as opposed to getting it on the spot if you give us cash.
Some people just put a line through the tip portion and don't give anything even though the delivery was on time and I was courteous. This is the biggest insult IMO to pizza delivery drivers.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
A 'gratuity-is-expected' mentality is very disrespectful... yet so common.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
I agree. There is such a thing as doing an average job, which would not warrant a tip imo, and going the extra inch which would.
But I also tip, unless service was terrible. Mainly because I don't like coins in my pocket so I simply round up. Sometimes that means a big tip, sometimes it doesn't.
But I also tip, unless service was terrible. Mainly because I don't like coins in my pocket so I simply round up. Sometimes that means a big tip, sometimes it doesn't.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
I always tip as well - and usually quite well - mostly because my sister & dad have had jobs that relied on tips, so I know what it's like and how much tips help.
However, if anyone ever gives me a "hey where's my tip, you're expected to tip!" attitude, they can go to hell.
LucyDuke
staring at the clock
Are you serious? First of all, that's nothing more than an insult. Do I call you lazy because of where your income comes from? No, because I'm not a rude jackass. Thanks. Now please explain to me why serving you your food is not a valuable service. Why mixing you your drinks is not a valuable service. Why driving to your house to bring you a pizza so you don't have to get dressed and burn up your gas is not a valuable service. If none of these are valuable services, why are people doing them and getting paid for it? And how are they not making good money on their own merit when the vast majority of Americans understand the system and actually pay the people doing these jobs?
You're not better than the pizza guy because of your job.
There you go, guys. Like it or not, that's the way it is. (In the US, at least.)
Minimum wage? You mean the $2.13 that service industry workers are paid?
brennan
Argumentative Brit
Who'd work for that much? Being unemployed would be better paid over here.
LucyDuke
staring at the clock
You see all these comments about how tipping is part of the system?
CIVPhilzilla
Reagan Republican
I always pick up my pizza, don't have to worry about deliveries or tips.
Why do you think Bugs is so upset? For certain workers, tipping is an expected part of their salary. People that don't uphold their end of that social contract for no reason are, quite frankly, losers who are screwing over their fellow citizens.
brennan
Argumentative Brit
PAY THEM MORE THEN FFS.
I mean for crying out loud, you're telling me that I have to pay for delivery of pizzas advertised as 'free delivery'. Enough of the false advertising, and less of the threatening to piss on my pizza. Just pay them more! I mean what bloody difference would it make, except that everyone would know, from the outset, exactly where they stand. No one would feel cheated and no-one would receive urine soaked Italian food.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
It shouldn't be - it ceases being a "gratuity" if it is.
Having said that, I understand that it is part of the system, and I tip.
brennan said:
You do have a bit of a point here - these people should be paid more. But they're not, and they rely on tips.. so if you don't tip, you can expect poor service in the future.
LucyDuke
staring at the clock
Okay, sorry. I'll fix everything after lunch.
brennan
Argumentative Brit
you do that. I'll be checking.
Well then hopefully the law of the market shall prevail: i'll take my business elsewhere and i'll end up paying slightly more for pizzas delivered by properly paid BugFatties whose employers are not taking the piss out of them, me and the social contract (although it's fine if they take it out of the pizzas as well of courseWarpus said:
)
I don't think small pizza chains, which operate on very small margins, could afford to pay pizza guys 7.00+ an hour in wages, without a pretty big hike in the cost of the pizza. The Tipping system actually keeps costs down for everybody, even the consumer (since you dont have to tip if the service sucks...if you didn't tip, and the pizza was late, you're still stuck with the expensive pizza)
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
So they'd have to charge 10-15% more per pizza, right? Hmmm
