Today I Learned #2: Gone for a Wiki Walk

[Hrothbern]

TIL:
The Connection Between Autism and Invention

yeah
I guess evolution encouraged diversity in how we are wired favoring higher birth rates and survival for tribes with higher diversity including inventors and including other people with higher empathy, etc, etc.
Perhaps at tribe level there was more acceptance because everybody needed everybody's traits for the good of the tribe.
We live in total other societies by now.
The A-spectrum now an interesting field of science and knowledge, but so full of taboos and elephants in the room that it is difficult to handle practicalities by parents, teachers, the autists themselves and all other in contact.
EDIT
Autists getting a label of extreme talents/qualities overwhelming the picture of the many with only a little bit of Autism.

 

[Berzerker]

from BJs article:

He can also listen to auditory patterns in the sounds of a car engine and hear which components need changing.

I wish I could do that, good mechanics are good listeners first. Not bad inventors too.

There's a line at the end of the movie The Accountant where the man running a home for children says maybe the problem is on our end, we dont know how to talk to them. I dont wanna give away the movie but it involves 2 autistic children.

I think the movie 300 showed Spartan elders tossing 'unfit' babies into a crevice in an ancient version of eugenics. I wonder if they had come to recognize features indicative of autism and killed babies who fit the profile. Maybe thats why Sparta didn't survive, they were killing inventors.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

I'm autistic and I'm incapable of finding patterns in anything.

 

[Hrothbern]

maybe the problem is on our end, we dont know how to talk to them

I think it is not only "our" disability that "we" normal people do not know how to talk to them... but also that "we" do not know how to listen to them... incl understanding their body-language.
If you look at people with mild autism being together, listening to lectures and then discussions afterwards (an old schoolfriend who hit the jackpot as inventor is organising such events every week) you can see that they feel quite comfortably in communicating, and much more effective than with "normal" people.

 

[Berzerker]

I'm autistic and I'm incapable of finding patterns in anything.

on a scale of 1-10 where would you place yourself?

 

[Birdjaguar]

What is 1 and what is 10?

 

[Berzerker]

1 would be mild, 10 overwhelming... I guess. I'm sure someone has come up with a scale by now.

I think it is not only "our" disability that "we" normal people do not know how to talk to them... but also that "we" do not know how to listen to them... incl understanding their body-language.

That may have been the line, we dont know how to listen

 

[The_J]

I think that number of 3% is... must be too high.
Having worked in 3 different bio labs, I've only met one person who's definitely on the spectrum, and the rest was "normal".
So I wonder what they've used as marker there.

 

[Zkribbler]

What is 1 and what is 10?

1 is 1 and 10 is 2, in base-2.

 

[Arakhor]

I'm autistic and I'm incapable of finding patterns in anything.

Well, so am I, and I've long found a pattern in much of your posting.

 

[Berzerker]

I didn't know much about Tourettes until a South Park episode addressed the issue. I knew about the uncontrollable cussing but not that it can result in other mannerisms that seem to be related to obsessive-compulsive behavior, like Sheldon knocking 3 times.

 

[Takhisis]

Today I learned that Windows Explorer can only display timestamps between 1980-01-01 00:00:00 — 2107-12-31 23:59:57.

If you use a program to modify a file's timestamps outside that range and switch to details view, it appears blank.

Bill Gates knows something which we don't.

 

[Zardnaar]

I didn't know much about Tourettes until a South Park episode addressed the issue. I knew about the uncontrollable cussing but not that it can result in other mannerisms that seem to be related to obsessive-compulsive behavior, like Sheldon knocking 3 times.

I think I found out with an Adam Sandler movie.

Or was it Rob what's his face.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Bill Gates knows something which we don't.

It's an overflow bug:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_formatting_and_storage_bugs#Year_2108

 

[Chukchi Husky]

on a scale of 1-10 where would you place yourself?

I don't know, but it's bad enough that I'm unfit for work.

 

[Kyriakos]

I'm autistic and I'm incapable of finding patterns in anything.

I doubt this is so I have to guess you have a rather intricate organization of how you view your friends' views, going by how you have presented those here over the years.
I am not an oracle, but I'd suspect that you categorize such things, while most people (including the normie contingent here ^_^ ) are more random.

I don't know, but it's bad enough that I'm unfit for work.

Working sucks. If you can get some disability benefit, that is far better. Only positive with (most types of) work is that you get the sense people identify what you do as useful in some way. But that sense wears out pretty soon & after that it's just the money which keeps one working.

 

[The_J]

Working sucks. If you can get some disability benefit, that is far better.

You're an exception to the rule.
Most people like being useful and having a reason and/or a desire to get up in the morning.
Not having a purpose/work is described in some philosophies (would need to look that up again) as being equivalent to hell.

 

[Samson]

Working sucks. If you can get some disability benefit, that is far better.

Working for someone else's profit sucks. However, disability benefit in the UK is about at or below the poverty line, so definitely not something to be recommended.

 

[Kyriakos]

You're an exception to the rule.
Most people like being useful and having a reason and/or a desire to get up in the morning.
Not having a purpose/work is described in some philosophies (would need to look that up again) as being equivalent to hell.

Hey, I am just lazy
I did say "most types of work". I can imagine some work which would be very beneficial. Arguably my own is more beneficial (though to a very small group of people) than (eg) if I was carrying crates at the dock. But still not that interesting to me that I do it for more than the money.

And no, Calvinism is no "philosophy"

 

[The_J]

Working for someone else's profit sucks.

You can still enjoy it. After all, most people are doing it, and most people don't hate their lifes.

Hey, I am just lazy
I did say "most types of work". I can imagine some work which would be very beneficial. Arguably my own is more beneficial (though to a very small group of people) than (eg) if I was carrying crates at the dock.

The crates at the dock will bring food, clothes and furniture for everyone. This work is unarguable a lot more useful than anything that you're doing.

I'll give you the option to stay on your high horse though, if you want to:
You may differentiate between the things which build a civilization, which are necessary and useful, and the things which advance a civilization. You may count your work into the latter part (as I do with my own).

And no, Calvinism is no "philosophy"

I had actually something eastern in mind, but google is really not helping me figuring it out right now :/.