Top 50 Videogames of the Decade on Destructoid

Thunderfall · Dec 1, 2009

In part II of "The Top 50 Videogames of the Decade" feature on Destructoid, Civilization III is listed in the 31st position. Here is what they had to say about it:

As complex and intimidating as they are, the Civilization games -- originally created by mastermind Sid Meier -- are surprisingly accessible. Once you get past the initial fear of trying to manage a deep and evolved empire simulator that follows the player from the start of recorded history to modern times, the Civilization games are some of the most playable, oh-my-gosh-I-can't-believe-it's-already-4-in-the-morning videogames ever created (trust me on this one from personal experience).

Civilization III is a highly balanced, impressively designed simulation game that is a must play for anyone with a PC and even the smallest interest in the very particular, sometimes overwhelming genre. Don't let the educational subject matter fool you -- Civilization III is not Mavis Beacon Teaches History! It is a real testament when, even today, eight years since the game's release, people are still falling in love with Civilization III.

It would be interesting to see if they also list Civilization IV on the list somewhere... So far the games listed are:

Spoiler :

Dash5 · Dec 1, 2009

The only rule of this week-long series -- other than making sure each game was released between 2000 and today -- is that only one game from each series could make the final cut.

The way i interpreted that it probably means civ 4 isnt in.

Afforess · Dec 1, 2009

Really, CIV3? I liked that one the least. I would preferred they put CIV2 in, at least. CIV3 was so... locked and unmoddable. Ugh.

Plotinus · Dec 2, 2009

Civ III is perfectly moddable. It's just a matter of learning the - ah - eccentric design decisions that determine how it is modded.

cephalo · Dec 2, 2009

I think that Civ4 is superior in every way to Civ3. No contest in my opinion. In fact I think Civ4 is one of the best games of all time. The only game I liked better was Xcom.

Quintillus · Dec 2, 2009

Afforess said:
Really, CIV3? I liked that one the least. I would preferred they put CIV2 in, at least. CIV3 was so... locked and unmoddable. Ugh.

You need to take a trip to http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=46. There's some pretty good scenarios there. True, Civ3 isn't quite as extensible as Civ4, but there's still a remarkable amount that can be done with it. And there's been plenty of time for modmakers to learn the intricacies of Civ3 modding, too.

Civ2 was released in the '90s, so it's ineligible for the presumably 2000's list. Even if they allowed Nov/Dec '99, no Civ2 expansions are eligible.

And they're right about people still falling in love with Civ3. It's the top standalone game under $5 on Steam, so there's plenty of people buying it or rebuying it, and that's just online. One of my friends who'd never played it prior to this year has been playing it all the time these past two weeks - many times the 3 hours or so I've played in that time.

I'm curious to see what their top ones are as well. I don't play enough to know how good the rankings really are, but I recognize more of this list than most.

WildWeazel · Dec 2, 2009

Hey guys! Let's start a 3 vs 4 flamewar! :evil:

Civ4 is in the running for Crispy Gamer's Game of the Decade

remake20 · Dec 2, 2009

I still play Civ 3 from time to time. There are some scenarios that I like to play. I think CIV is better, but Civ 3 was pretty close. IMO Civ 3 modding was easier, but CIV's modding was much more changeable. And my brother still plays Civ 3, he says he doesn't like civ 3.

Öjevind Lång · Dec 2, 2009

cephalo said:
I think that Civ4 is superior in every way to Civ3. No contest in my opinion. In fact I think Civ4 is one of the best games of all time. The only game I liked better was Xcom.

Let's hear it for X-Com. And by that , I mean the orignial game with a few bugs removed and more varied alien cresa and better graphics -nothing more. ALL the sequels are inferior, especially the ones that try to pretend that they are Wolfenstein.

Nimzo Lord · Dec 2, 2009

Thunderfall said:
Spoiler :

Part One - #50-41
50. Metal Slug 3
49. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
48. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
47. Vagrant Story
46. Super Smash Bros. Melee
45. Team Fortress 2
44. WarioWare: Twisted!
43. Banjo-Tooie
42. Psychonauts
41. Braid

Part Two - #40-31
40. Kingdom Hearts
39. Rock Band 2
38. Marvel vs. Capcom 2
37. Lost Odyssey
36. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
35. Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3
34. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
33. BioShock
32. Katamari Damacy
31. Civilization III

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Why is WarioWare above TF2 and Smash, and why the hell is Kingdom Hearts five places above Team Fortress 2? At number 40, no less?

The author made the audacious claim that "The fans seem to prefer melee",
but polls seem to disagree:
Brawl got to the semifinals of GameFAQs's Best Game ever poll,*
losing to Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy X, and MGS4,
while Melee lost to Pokemon in the quarterfinals,
implying that "the fans"(who do not appear to have been consulted for Civ) prefer the latter.

*http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3505

Did the author ask anyone on Civ Fanatics or any other civ site which version of Civ
is the best? Someone provide me a link if he did, but it looks like he didn't.
I like how he's using "the fans" as his citation with smash, while conveniently ignoring Civ's far, far more dedicated and loyal fan base. :wallbash:

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Sorry if I sounded overly whiny, but I just needed to get this out of my system.

Swein Forkbeard · Dec 3, 2009

So no Civ4 or SSBB, it seems. Well, at least GameFAQs will get REALLY pissed off!

GK1823 · Dec 3, 2009

I have found Part Three (#30-21) of the list, there is still no Civilization IV.

Here it is:

Spoiler :

remake20 · Dec 3, 2009

CIV could be #1? Probably not though.

Soda7777777 · Dec 3, 2009

I get the feeling it's gonna be some anime game as number one. I doubt Civ IV will be listed. Plus I doubt TES IV is gonna be listed as well, but they might list Morrowind.

Swein Forkbeard · Dec 3, 2009

The top 20 has been posted. Here's what I think.

If the 1 game per series rule holds, than this means that Civ4, Zelda: TP, SSBB, MGS4, and GTAIV have all been knocked off eligibility. The latter two not making it is quite surprising!

World of Warcraft in the top 20 was a bit of a given.

Nice to see Metroid Prime and Wind Waker in the top 15 though. Take that, GameCube haters! MP in particular has been a big failure on most top lists recently (and then there was this mess: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_vs_Vice_City_vs_Metroid_Prime_vs_Paper_Mario_2009) and the game completely failed to make Edge's Top 100 Games to Play Today, so color me surprised that it got on the list (ahead of World of Warcraft, GTA San Andreas, Call of Duty 4, KOTOR, BioShock, and SSBM no less). And Pikmin 2 in the top 20 was surprising, as was Silent Hill 2 and Okami in the top 15. As far as Edge's Top 100 goes, here were the top 50 from what I remember:

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cephalo · Dec 4, 2009

I'm surprised not to see Okami and Psychonauts. Those are two of my recent favorites.

Sid · Dec 4, 2009

For me Civ3 is the best game - I play it endlessly and always look for more graphics updates from these forums. I suspect that I like it so much because i) I have never progressed beyond Regent; and ii) I thoroughly understand the game and its interface (except how to beat the AI). Graphically it works fine with just the right amount of information to suspend disbelief.

To each their own.

Mojoqmeyvam · Dec 4, 2009

Weasel Op said:
Civ4 is in the running for Crispy Gamer's Game of the Decade

Sadly, Civ4 lost in the first round to Peggle. :confused:

. I mean, it didn't even lose to a game that I'd heard of (and likely anybody else who reads this forum, either). Game of the Decade Round Two

choxorn · Dec 4, 2009

They just released the top 10. The complete list of all 50 is:

Spoiler :

Lack of some games disappoint me. :mad:

remake20 · Dec 4, 2009

choxorn said:
They just released the top 10. The complete list of all 50 is:

Spoiler :

Part One - #50-41
50. Metal Slug 3
49. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
48. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
47. Vagrant Story
46. Super Smash Bros. Melee
45. Team Fortress 2
44. WarioWare: Twisted!
43. Banjo-Tooie
42. Psychonauts
41. Braid

Part Two - #40-31
40. Kingdom Hearts
39. Rock Band 2
38. Marvel vs. Capcom 2
37. Lost Odyssey
36. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
35. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3
34. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
33. BioShock
32. Katamari Damacy
31. Civilization III

Part Three - #30-21
30. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
29. Shenmue II
28. Left 4 Dead
27. Skies of Arcadia
26. Paper Mario
25. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
24. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
23. Cave Story
22. Ico
21. Ikaruga

Part Four - #20-11
20. Final Fantasy IX
19. World of WarCraft
18. Persona 4
17. Pikmin 2
16. Deus Ex
15. Silent Hill 2
14. Okami
13. Metroid Prime
12. Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
11. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

Part Five - #10-1
10. Resident Evil 4
9. Super Mario Galaxy
8. Valkyria Chronicles
7. Diablo II
6. Beyond Good & Evil
5. God of War II
4. Portal
3. Mother 3
2. Half-Life 2
1. Shadow of the Colossus

Lack of some games disappoint me.

WHERE"S HALO, COD, OR GTAIV(May I remind you it is the only game to date that got a 10/10 from gamespot)?!?!?!?!?! N00bs. I haven't even heard of the number 1.

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