True Legacy Nes: Alternative Cold War
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Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: Republic of China
From: Japan
Your Republic is forfeit. Prepare to be reclaimed by Japan.
From: Japan
Your Republic is forfeit. Prepare to be reclaimed by Japan.
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
To the Empire of Japan
From the United States of America
We agree with the Canadians, your actions in China make us nervous to your true intentions. While we realize that the history of China and Japan are similar to that of England and France, it is still no excuse to completely run them over.
As a result, we come to you in the hopes of encouraging you to back down and stop your aggressive attacks, China is beaten, you have shown yourself to be strong and mighty, no nation can dare go against you now.
To Germany and France
From the United States of America
CC: England
If a revolution does occur, I advise you not to interfere, if I discover that German or French supplies, soldiers or equipment are sent across the channel, America will retaliate. We will side with the revolutionaries. But if you choose to heed our warning and stay in your country, America will stay in hers as well and allow England to solve the revolution on their own, for good or worst. Agreed?
From the United States of America
We agree with the Canadians, your actions in China make us nervous to your true intentions. While we realize that the history of China and Japan are similar to that of England and France, it is still no excuse to completely run them over.
As a result, we come to you in the hopes of encouraging you to back down and stop your aggressive attacks, China is beaten, you have shown yourself to be strong and mighty, no nation can dare go against you now.
To Germany and France
From the United States of America
CC: England
If a revolution does occur, I advise you not to interfere, if I discover that German or French supplies, soldiers or equipment are sent across the channel, America will retaliate. We will side with the revolutionaries. But if you choose to heed our warning and stay in your country, America will stay in hers as well and allow England to solve the revolution on their own, for good or worst. Agreed?
carmen510
Deity
To the United States
From Vichy France
That is hardly the sort of concession we would be willing to make. Destabilization of England would spread across Europe, and that is something we could not afford. You couldn't either, your export industries still need our markets.
Plus, we are closer to England than you are, both in geography and in relationships. We may not interfere with events in England, but we will not tolerate American efforts to frighten the world into her submission.
EDIT: Also, we are in a defensive alliance with England. It would be our duty to help the English government in any way we can.
From Vichy France
That is hardly the sort of concession we would be willing to make. Destabilization of England would spread across Europe, and that is something we could not afford. You couldn't either, your export industries still need our markets.
Plus, we are closer to England than you are, both in geography and in relationships. We may not interfere with events in England, but we will not tolerate American efforts to frighten the world into her submission.
EDIT: Also, we are in a defensive alliance with England. It would be our duty to help the English government in any way we can.
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
Last I checked with our industrialists, we did not need your exports to begin with.... so cutting trade with us will not affect us as much as it will to you. In fact you will receive the worst of the deal if trade is affected between us. We have oil, we have steel, we have wine, we have everything... please kindly address a good that we need that we do not produce but you have readily to trade.
EDIT to your EDIT: A revolution voids such a treaty, as who is really in command? The Revolutionaries or the Government? Each nation around the world could speak with either one and further complicating the deal. You could come to the defense of your brothers, but we could likewise come to the defense of friends in need, such as people who desire freedom.
carmen510
Deity
Last I checked with economists, specialization is the reason we trade in the first place. You may be self-sufficient, but without our exports, you would need to devote more resources to areas of the economy you are worse at than us, and would be wasting valuable time and productivity.
Your markets also need us to send their exports to. Thousands of Americans will lose their jobs once this vital market is closed to you, do you really wish to unnecessarily unemploy your workers? In addition, we have more potential and friendlier markets than you. You are nearly out of potential markets, do you really think you can send luxury goods to South America or Africa?
You have your friends, we have ours. There are certainly people who desire the freedom, to die and to be traitors. We will help our brothers in arms.
I also agree with German sentiment: Stay out of Europe, We'll stay out of the Americas.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: Canada
From: Japan
Truly, you are right to wish an end to bloodshed. But if, indeed, we are all to kneel down in dishonor before those who would do harm upon us, then whence come civilization? The Republic launched yet another attack on the Chinese communes, and in the interest of preserving peace in China we seek to tame them.
However your words of wisdom will not go unheeded by us. Perhaps the Canadians would help broker a peace amongst the Chinese belligerents and the honorable Empire?
From: Japan
Truly, you are right to wish an end to bloodshed. But if, indeed, we are all to kneel down in dishonor before those who would do harm upon us, then whence come civilization? The Republic launched yet another attack on the Chinese communes, and in the interest of preserving peace in China we seek to tame them.
However your words of wisdom will not go unheeded by us. Perhaps the Canadians would help broker a peace amongst the Chinese belligerents and the honorable Empire?
Icekommander
Colonel
I is back from Penticton, I'll see about getting orders in soon here.
carmen510
Deity
@Hitlerslegacy: I wish to know the fate of the Free French Forces, as well as the fates of Charles de Gaulle, Vincent Auriol, Maurice Gamelin, Daniel Mayer, Maurice Thorez, Léon Blum, Felix Gouin, Paul Ramadier, Camille Chautemps, Edouard Daladier, Paul Reynaud, Georges Bidault, André Marie, Edouard Herriot, Henri Queuille, Jacques Duclos, Jean Marie Lattre de Tassigny, Joseph Paul-Boncour, and Maurice Bourgès-Maunoury. (List for now)
A quick Wikipedia search can find these men and [for most of them], their former historical roles prior to and including WW2. (Most of these guys were elements of the Resistance, were left-wingers [and many were Prime Ministers], or were sent to concentration camps, and thus I wish to know their fates for security reasons)
I would love to make up history for them myself, but would be unsure if this would go against your wishes. (I would only execute the highly visible targets like de Gaulle, the rest wouldn't suffer badly)
If you want to streamline it, I could strike off all those sent to concentration camps as dead and that would shorten the list by at least half. I could also strike off left-wingers that didn't have a role until after the war, probably via imprisonment.
A quick Wikipedia search can find these men and [for most of them], their former historical roles prior to and including WW2. (Most of these guys were elements of the Resistance, were left-wingers [and many were Prime Ministers], or were sent to concentration camps, and thus I wish to know their fates for security reasons)
I would love to make up history for them myself, but would be unsure if this would go against your wishes. (I would only execute the highly visible targets like de Gaulle, the rest wouldn't suffer badly)
If you want to streamline it, I could strike off all those sent to concentration camps as dead and that would shorten the list by at least half. I could also strike off left-wingers that didn't have a role until after the war, probably via imprisonment.
Milarqui
Deity
The Times
Mosley resigns!
His bad health, the Jamaica Blockade and Nigeria's declaration of independence, cause of the resignation
Mosley resigns!
His bad health, the Jamaica Blockade and Nigeria's declaration of independence, cause of the resignation
Yesterday 23rd February at 9 AM, Sir Oswald Mosley presented himself to King Edward VIII and tended his resignation, citing health problems as the cause. After the King accepted it, Sir Oswald Mosley called for a press conference, in which the now ex-Prime Minister cited the series of reasons that caused this resignation in further detail. "The terrorist attack of two years ago was a bad shock for my health. This was the main reason why this government didn't react in events such as the Blockade of Jamaica and the region of Nigeria's unilateral declaration of independence, although there are several other reasons why this happened. I have felt that my presence has hampered this nation's ability to react to important national and international events, which is why I have tended my resignation."
After Sir Mosley's resignation, Arthur Kellington Davis, who was the Chancellor of the Exchequer in Sir Oswald Mosley's last Cabinet, presented himself as the new Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, as he was asked to do so by King Edward VIII.
"My tenure as Prime Minister will be a short one," Mr Davis said in his first speech as Prime Minister. "My predecessor's job as Prime Minister has been a very good one, helping us recovering from the devastation of World War II. However, during his work as such, he was forced to cast away one of the most important signs of this great nation, the ability of the people to choose their government through a voting, due to circumstances out of his control.
"One of my intentions is that, within two years, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is able to, once more, exercise their freedom to vote for their chosen leaders. Local elections shall be held within a few months so that people may choose their mayors, and, as I said, in two years each British person will be allowed to vote for whom they believe will take our proud nation into prosperity again!"
Upon being asked about any possible repercussions of this declaration, Sir Mosley answered: "While this isn't what I would have preferred, I know that Arthur Davis has only Britain's best interest in his mind. This is the reason why the King chose him over others, because, while they have been excellent collaborators, none of them would have had the ability to lead this nation as well as Davis does.
"As for any international repercussions, it is most probable that the United States will be glad, but that our allies in France and Germany will not be happy. That's the reason why I ask the French and German government not to act in any violent manner nor to invade our beloved country. If the people want a new government, chosen by them, then so be it."
Reactions in the street have varied much, but most of them coincide in the fact that they are sure that Arthur Davis will make a good Prime Minister, and that if he were to make good in his promises, they would vote for him in an hypothetical election.
The United States ambassador to the United Kingdom, Joseph Kennedy, has commented that he hopes that this first step is soon followed by more steps towards the freedom of the people. However, Dr Herbert von Dirksen, the German ambassador, has claimed that the German government is "disappointed" with the attitude of the British Prime Minister and hopes that "he soon corrects this error and realises that fascism is the wave of the future".
If you'd like, you can make history for all except
Charles de Gaulle: Captured and Killed by Axis forces
Léon Blum: Residing in the USA, leader of the Free French Government
Vincent Auriol: Living in Canada (Quebec)
Camille Chautemps,Jean Marie Lattre de Tassigny,Maurice Bourgès-Maunoury: Currently in hiding, suspected of being harbored by the resistance
I should note that all nations occupied by Germany, except Denmark and Norway, have a Government in Exile in the USA
Charles de Gaulle: Captured and Killed by Axis forces
Léon Blum: Residing in the USA, leader of the Free French Government
Vincent Auriol: Living in Canada (Quebec)
Camille Chautemps,Jean Marie Lattre de Tassigny,Maurice Bourgès-Maunoury: Currently in hiding, suspected of being harbored by the resistance
I should note that all nations occupied by Germany, except Denmark and Norway, have a Government in Exile in the USA
carmen510
Deity
@HL: Thanks. I was planning a nice little story/event for all of this. I will ask permission for a few more people once I finish the rest of the list.
Now, what would you rather hear:
1) Selection of the new Vichy Government
2) The Special "Event" for those people just mentioned. (In conjunction with #1, possibly)
3) More Constitution
Now, what would you rather hear:
1) Selection of the new Vichy Government
2) The Special "Event" for those people just mentioned. (In conjunction with #1, possibly)
3) More Constitution
I believe a propogandist claimed them, but if he doesn't respond, you can have them, or if you'd prefer, Italy or Finland
I will wait then. I really don't want to be a dictatorship or I will look to see if I like any other options.
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