Trump voters will not like what happens next

[FriendlyFire]

I feel a lot better now.
God speed my Republican friends, you are going to need it

Trump voters will not like what happens next

So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians

We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them.

But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...7be8f848c492_story.html?tid=pm_pop_b#comments

 

[sophie]

This is crass and pathetic. And it goes back to "these poor [poor/uneducated/black/women] are too stupid to understand what's really good for them." It's disgusting and elitist (and racist/sexist when we're talking about, e.g. black people too dumb to understand Bernie best represents their interests) and precisely the reason why Donald won last night.

Trump supporters knew exactly what they did last night, and what the consequences would mean. To imply they didn't impinges upon the very foundation for why democracy works, namely that every person living in a state deserves a voice in how that state is run. To say that some people don't deserve that (whether that be because they're too uneducated, too short-sighted, too black, or what have you) is to say that ours should not be a democracy, but rather a limited government in which a select group of people decides what's best for everybody else. Which is fine to say when that group's views happen to coincide with your own, but what happens when they do not?

 

[aelf]

I, for one, will be cheering that. You made your bed; lie in it.

 

[Archbob]

A lot of it is probably true though. They really didn't know what they were voting for, he's an excellent conman, he got a lot of really smart people with his Trump University Ploy and he got millions with empty promises that he can't keep. They deserve a vote, just like everyone else, but I'm not letting them make excuses and get off the hook when he screws things up royally. The finger is going to be squarely pointed at them because they are the ones who voted him in.

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

A lot of Conservatives and Libertarians are going to be disappointed by his nationalist/populist policies.

 

[CavLancer]

They were doing what everyone was. They weren't voting for someone, they were voting against someone. That's what's pathetic.

Besides that, what the heck happened to my wheelbarrow full of crap avatar? I go away a while and someone stole it! Come on folks, its not a Corvette, give it back!

 

[Phrossack]

This is crass and pathetic. And it goes back to "these poor [poor/uneducated/black/women] are too stupid to understand what's really good for them." It's disgusting and elitist (and racist/sexist when we're talking about, e.g. black people too dumb to understand Bernie best represents their interests) and precisely the reason why Donald won last night.

Trump supporters knew exactly what they did last night, and what the consequences would mean. To imply they didn't impinges upon the very foundation for why democracy works, namely that every person living in a state deserves a voice in how that state is run. To say that some people don't deserve that (whether that be because they're too uneducated, too short-sighted, too black, or what have you) is to say that ours should not be a democracy, but rather a limited government in which a select group of people decides what's best for everybody else. Which is fine to say when that group's views happen to coincide with your own, but what happens when they do not.

It's undeniable that the Trump campaign is based largely on impossible promises that voters fell for, intense hatred of Clinton, and resentment of minorities. The word "elite," in this context, means anyone who isn't them. Trump supporters never consider a born-rich, powerful billionaire living in a New York penthouse to be an elite, but they do consider ordinary, middle-class liberals elites. That's telling.

 

[civman110]

This is crass and pathetic. And it goes back to "these poor [poor/uneducated/black/women] are too stupid to understand what's really good for them." It's disgusting and elitist (and racist/sexist when we're talking about, e.g. black people too dumb to understand Bernie best represents their interests) and precisely the reason why Donald won last night.

Trump supporters knew exactly what they did last night, and what the consequences would mean. To imply they didn't impinges upon the very foundation for why democracy works, namely that every person living in a state deserves a voice in how that state is run. To say that some people don't deserve that (whether that be because they're too uneducated, too short-sighted, too black, or what have you) is to say that ours should not be a democracy, but rather a limited government in which a select group of people decides what's best for everybody else. Which is fine to say when that group's views happen to coincide with your own, but what happens when they do not.

Well put.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Yeah, right. Keep dismising Trump voters, and while you're at it accuse others of being patronizing.

To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians

Is it possible to put your head so far up your own ass that your head comes out of your mouth ? Maybe if the reality you live in is distorted enough.
Doesn't mean I don't think Trump is a dumb, hateful POS. He certainly is. His voters have been deceived, and people will die because of their vote.
But if you want to blame and despise somebody, start with the fathermuckers at the DNC. They had a possible anti-establishment candidate with genuine excitement behind him and they screwed him over. They picked a hawkish corporatist who is widely despised because it was her turn.
Somebody who was deluded enough to claim she's an outsider, because in addition to having lived in he White House for eight years and served as Senator and Secretary of State, she's also a woman .

FFS liberal class, sort yourselves out.

 

[Roller123]

and people will die because of their vote.

I don't know, i wouldn't put it past Hillary to be insane enough to start a war with Russia. Trump can't possibly kill more people than that.

 

[Archbob]

I don't know, i wouldn't put it past Hillary to be insane enough to start a war with Russia. Trump can't possibly kill more people than that.

Please, Hillary is very calculated, she's not insane. She might be a lot of other things, but she's a calm and collected person. Trump, on the other hand .... basically goes ballistic every time you insult him. Hillary looked professional and controlled at the debates, Trump was the one who looked like a 5 year old kid.

But if you want to blame and despise somebody, start with the fathermuckers at the DNC.

I'm not about to let the Trump voters shift blame when things go bad because of the guy they voted for. It's not the DNC's fault. The DNC didn't vote for Trump. Its not Hillary's fault, or Obama's fault, or HRC's supporters fault that Trump is president. The blame falls solely on his supporters because they, not anyone else, are the ones who voted him into the white house. I will not let them point the finger anywhere else. They have a right to vote for whoever they want But if the person they vote for takes the country south, the blame falls squarely on them.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Exit polling indicates that over 60% said he isn't qualified...meaning that some significant percentage said "he isn't qualified but I'll vote for him anyway." It's obvious that the objective is the failure of government, and that is likely to be achieved.

 

[Roller123]

Please, Hillary is very calculated, she's not insane. She might be a lot of other things, but she's a calm and collected person. Trump, on the other hand .... basically goes ballistic every time you insult him. Hillary looked professional and controlled at the debates, Trump was the one who looked like a 5 year old kid.

For someone so calculated she sure miscalculated where it mattered. If she would gamble on Russia backing down, and they do not, well, a "go home now" speech wouldn't suffice anymore. Obviously this doesn't say anything about Trump but that increasingly more violent and dangerous development in the Near East needed to be stopped. i mean, WTH.

 

[Nexlev]

Presidents often don't deliver on their promises. Their power is limited while in office, voters demand promises.

Trump made enormous ones. He's fiscally liberal, and liberal with his tax cuts too! His daughter promised an expansion of the social net that would make Clinton or any young family happy. Trump promised a wall that Mexico will pay for and a rebuild of America's infrastructure, paid for by tax cuts.

First off, Congress has to approve budgets. If the tea party approves that budget, that would be the end of that movement.

Anyways, despite all this I hope I was wrong. He could be a good president if he delivers on half. I do think voters will be disappointed.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

His daughter promised an expansion of the social net that would make Clinton or any young family happy.

Bull. Her "tax deduction for child care" makes zero difference to any young family. If a young family can't afford child care telling them "go ahead and pay for it and then deduct it from your taxes" will only be met with "we don't have the money now and we take the standard deduction so we wouldn't get any more back anyway." Now, if your 'child care expenses' include the cost of providing your son with his own floor in Trump Tower and a staff of eight that deduction might be useful. Just like his "tax cuts" this is just a benefit for the extremely wealthy...hey, like the Trumps for example.

 

[Nexlev]

She promised much more than that.

Do your own homework brah

 

[aelf]

I'm not about to let the Trump voters shift blame when things go bad because of the guy they voted for. It's not the DNC's fault. The DNC didn't vote for Trump. Its not Hillary's fault, or Obama's fault, or HRC's supporters fault that Trump is president. The blame falls solely on his supporters because they, not anyone else, are the ones who voted him into the white house. I will not let them point the finger anywhere else. They have a right to vote for whoever they want But if the person they vote for takes the country south, the blame falls squarely on them.

Indeed. What next? Blaming liberals for Trump voters being racist? I think I've seen that somewhere.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Anyways, despite all this I hope I was wrong. He could be a good president if he delivers on half. I do think voters will be disappointed.

Lets see
- A Wall that mexico will pay for
- Tax cuts that will pay for themselves
- A Muslim Ban
- Repeal Obamacare and replace it with the finest healthcare plan
- Jail Hillary (and Obama)
- NAFTA and TPP terms so jobs will come roaring back

I think at this point republicans should just settle for not crashing the economy and starting another two wars but that might be impossible.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

She promised much more than that.

Do your own homework brah

When I go looking for someone to assign homework you'll be the first person I call.

Oh.

Wait.

No, you really won't.

It makes no difference how much crap she laid down in the disguise, the bottom line is that she laid down the same kind of crap as her old man. That is "tie a nickle for the middle class on this package to make it look good, but ultimately the object is to serve ourselves." Calling that sort of bait and switch hucksterism "liberal" is just gross.

 

[Archbob]

Yeah, Basically my thoughts as well