UK finds new fuel source to undercut Russian stranglehold on Europe

[Farm Boy]

This is more important that any of the emotionally laden disgust about burning human remains. If the hospital goes against the parent's wishes or misleads them (for instance if they are led to believe they'll get some sort of ceremony) then that's an outrage.

I would simply caution that one could feel grossly mislead without specific lies or promises(like a ceremony). Simply acting in an unexpected manner without specifying it can be enough. You shouldn't need disclaimers in hospital fine print that they won't flush the remains of your miscarriage down the toilet, but only after it's already been used so as to conserve water. You shouldn't need disclaimers at funeral homes advertising that you don't provide rental services to the local chapter of necrophiliacs.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

You shouldn't need hyperbole while making a point. Otherwise I could be forced to counter whether the hospital needs to have a full-blown funeral service complete with hearse and traffic jams. And we don't want that.

 

[Farm Boy]

You shouldn't need hyperbole while making a point. Otherwise I could be forced to counter whether the hospital needs to have a full-blown funeral service complete with hearse and traffic jams. And we don't want that.

I could simply agree with you that they don't need the full-blown service/traffic jams, and I think I will.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

But that means I don't have a comeback

edit: Beg your pardon, that's supposed to be: But that would mean [...]

 

[Farm Boy]

That's ok. If you desire I'll mentally fill in a scathing one and consider my eyebrows singed off. Or I can keep considering this particular thread of intercontinental thoughts to be a cooperative affair that just happens to be making me sadder than I would be otherwise. I like the latter better I think. Sometimes it just doesn't do to be too amused.

 

[Kyriakos]

Hospitals have always saved fuel by cremating fetuses, cause they need it for the war with Eurasia.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Ok, very well, everyone wants to talk about the heat, which is only symptomatic of a certain outlook, not a problem in and of itself. Of course it's easy to talk about the heat, it's not the principal issue.

Perhaps you should take that up with the conservative British media source that tried to sensationalize this story as much as possible to pander to their right-wing anti-abortion audience.

It's the "alongside other rubbish" bit. How is that so very confusing? (good youtube clip though, that one plays through my head years after having seen the movie)

That "other rubbish" is other medical waste. Do you think there should be dedicated medical incinerators specifically for aborted fetuses and miscarriages? Are the anti-abortionists going to pay for them all? Or should we just increase the cost of medical insurance even more?

Do you think if an arm or a leg is amputated that it should also be destroyed with pomp and ceremony? Or perhaps it should be buried or cremated instead?

I've already agreed that those who have miscarriages should go right ahead and have a funeral if they desire. After all, it's their money. And it turns out they already have that option according to this very article.

But it should be obvious to anybody what happens to medical waste such as this in the vast majority of situations. This isn't "news". It is sensationalism about something that many anti-abortionists apparently didn't even know about regarding the proper and safe operation of their own hospitals and clinics.

 

[Kyriakos]

Perhaps you should take that up with the conservative British media source that tried to sensationalize this story as much as possible to pander to their right-wing anti-abortion audience.

That "other rubbish" is other medical waste. Do you think there should be dedicated medical incinerators specifically for aborted fetuses and miscarriages?

Do you think if an arm or a leg is amputated that it should also be destroyed with pomp and ceremony? Or perhaps it should be buried or cremated instead?

I've already agreed that those who have miscarriages should go right ahead and have a funeral if they desire. After all, it's their money. But it should be obvious to anybody what happens to medical waste such as this in the vast majority of situations.

Well, do you think we should just throw dead people to the garbage bins? I mean they too are useless much like machinery which is broken or other such stuff.

Unless of course they are some kind of minority. Then we need a mausoleum and national holidays

 

[Formaldehyde]

What part of "medical incinerators" did you deliberately confuse with "garbage bins"?

And your comment about "minorities" is quite interesting. What exactly did you mean by that?

 

[Kyriakos]

^I think i'll just wait for you to edit your above post 10 times first You still have 1-2 min for ninja-edit, but probably you will go the usual distance with having an argument with your own post for minutes.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Now you wish to discuss me instead? How surprising.

 

[Farm Boy]

Perhaps you should take that up with the conservative British media source that tried to sensationalize this story as much as possible to pander to their right-wing anti-abortion audience.

That "other rubbish" is other medical waste. Do you think there should be dedicated medical incinerators specifically for aborted fetuses and miscarriages? Are the anti-abortionists going to pay for them all? Or should we just increase the cost of medical insurance even more?

Do you think if an arm or a leg is amputated that it should also be destroyed with pomp and ceremony? Or perhaps it should be buried or cremated instead?

I've already agreed that those who have miscarriages should go right ahead and have a funeral if they desire. After all, it's their money. And it turns out they already have that option according to this very article.

But it should be obvious to anybody what happens to medical waste such as this in the vast majority of situations. This isn't "news". It is sensationalism about something that many anti-abortionists apparently didn't even know about regarding the proper and safe operation of their own hospitals and clinics.

Dude. It's not that complicated even if it's obtuse. It's the difference between something being incinerated with medical waste, like tumors, like I've said, or legs or whatever, like the quote "rubbish." Or, if rather, it were incinerated along with other human remains even if the family involved declined a full funeral. It's the treatment of throwing it in for incineration with the "waste" because then you are treating it as if it simply is/was waste. Don't throw in anyone who has a problem with this as by definition being ignorant. I have a problem with the remains of abortions being treated that way, but I would presume almost anyone who manages to drag up even a half-reasonable facimile of empathy for families who just lost a pregnancy through miscarriage would know better than to be quite blasé enough to "creamate" remains in this manner.

 

[DinoDoc]

I've already agreed that those who have miscarriages should go right ahead and have a funeral if they desire. After all, it's their money. And it turns out they already have that option according to this very article.

They didn't according that very article and the original investigation it was based on.

 

[DinoDoc]

I would presume almost anyone who manages to drag up even a half-reasonable facimile of empathy for families who just lost a pregnancy through miscarriage would know better than to be quite blasé enough to "creamate" remains in this manner.

I presume it is kneejerk opposition to "conservative" media that keeps people from seeing that particular point clearly.

 

[DinoDoc]

It seems such green energy policies are spreading to at least one part of the US: Video: Oregon commission orders stop on using dead babies to generate power

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Quacks already did it. You're a couple of weeks late.

edit: Can't find link. Maybe it was someone else.