UK Politics VI - Will Britain Steir to Karmer Waters?
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It's certainly possible that Reform might win a lot of seats, but give people four years to see how badly their county councils are handled and they might not be nearly so quick to vote for Farage's vanity party.
(Besides, that's from the Telegraph, which makes it worth almost as much as the paper it's written on.)
(Besides, that's from the Telegraph, which makes it worth almost as much as the paper it's written on.)
Mega Tsunami
Emperor
Err, it's frpm IPSOS 
Mega Tsunami
Emperor
Of course 4 years is a long, long time to the next election. But what this shows is that the current view is a plague on the last government and a plague on the current government too.
Here you go – please feel free to shoot the original messenger as well if you like:
Reform with Ipsos record 9-point lead over Labour, as public satisfaction with government nears lowest point recorded under a modern Labour administration
Ipsos’ newly relaunched Political Monitor shows Reform UK on a 34% vote share, the highest Ipsos has ever recorded for them, and nine points ahead of the Labour Party. Just under a year since the 2024 general election, Ipsos in the UK’s new findings show how dramatically the political landscape has changed:
Labour’s 25% voting intention is the lowest share Ipsos has recorded for Labour since October 2019.
The Conservatives’ 15% is the lowest share Ipsos has ever recorded.
Keir Starmer and the government’s satisfaction ratings have fallen significantly since last year, with around three in four (73% and 76% respectively) now dissatisfied.
Here you go – please feel free to shoot the original messenger as well if you like:
Reform with Ipsos record 9-point lead over Labour, as public satisfaction with government nears lowest point recorded under a modern Labour administration
Ipsos’ newly relaunched Political Monitor shows Reform UK on a 34% vote share, the highest Ipsos has ever recorded for them, and nine points ahead of the Labour Party. Just under a year since the 2024 general election, Ipsos in the UK’s new findings show how dramatically the political landscape has changed:
Labour’s 25% voting intention is the lowest share Ipsos has recorded for Labour since October 2019.
The Conservatives’ 15% is the lowest share Ipsos has ever recorded.
Keir Starmer and the government’s satisfaction ratings have fallen significantly since last year, with around three in four (73% and 76% respectively) now dissatisfied.
EnglishEdward
Deity
I find the cartoon of Nigel Farage turning into Jeremy Corbyn quite interesting.
Reform UK is mostly a symptom that the two-party establishment in the UK has collapsed.
It's a symptom that voter confidence in both the Tories and Labour, are at an all time low.
Charlatans can thrive in such an environment.
It's a symptom that voter confidence in both the Tories and Labour, are at an all time low.
Charlatans can thrive in such an environment.
More on the Reform UK work ethic:
Reform Warwickshire council head quits after five weeks, leaving 18-year-old in charge
A Reform UK councillor has resigned as leader of Warwickshire county council just five weeks after he was elected, leaving his 18-year-old deputy in the role.
Rob Howard said health problems were preventing him from carrying out the role, to which he was elected on 16 May, “to the level and standard I would wish” as he stepped down after 42 days in office.
Reform Warwickshire council head quits after five weeks, leaving 18-year-old in charge
A Reform UK councillor has resigned as leader of Warwickshire county council just five weeks after he was elected, leaving his 18-year-old deputy in the role.
Rob Howard said health problems were preventing him from carrying out the role, to which he was elected on 16 May, “to the level and standard I would wish” as he stepped down after 42 days in office.
EnglishEdward
Deity
If a Conservative or Liberal Democrat or Labour Leader steps down citing health issues, are
you going to refer to that as more on the Conservative, Liberal Democrat or Labour work ethic?
you going to refer to that as more on the Conservative, Liberal Democrat or Labour work ethic?
If they step down at half the rate Reform are I assure you I will.
EnglishEdward
Deity
Perhaps after a year we may know the respective rates.
My perspective is that voting for local councillors on the basis of national policies is a dubious practice.
My perspective is that voting for local councillors on the basis of national policies is a dubious practice.
Well, given two other options for an interim leader of the council, the majority still plumped for an 18-year-old new hire, which was presumably based entirely on party lines. This teenager may be the next Mozart, who knows, but why vote for an inexperienced, untested teenager when you have any other option?
EnglishEdward
Deity
I can only speculate.
Perhaps that is to force them to appoint a permanent replacement.
I suppose that it is a change from the we can not agree who should be Pope so we will vote for the one we expect to die soon.
Perhaps that is to force them to appoint a permanent replacement.
I suppose that it is a change from the we can not agree who should be Pope so we will vote for the one we expect to die soon.
I think it says a lot about the degradation of the media that they are reporting that reform has 23 deats, short of the 29 needed for a majority. The media must be able to find out who were the at least six non-reform counsellors that voted for the child, but they do not tell us.
BlueSky is saying that the teenager in question is going off to university in September. How the hell he can remain a councillor, let alone be nominally in charge of a £1.5 billion budget, is beyond me.
I have no idea how intra-council elections take place, but if they're a secret ballot, no one should know. If it's a matter of public record, however, even a FOIA request would take time to complete.
I have no idea how intra-council elections take place, but if they're a secret ballot, no one should know. If it's a matter of public record, however, even a FOIA request would take time to complete.
I assumed they would be public to at least those present, in which case an email to the green counsellors would probably do the job.
EnglishEdward
Deity
Regarding voting.
Quite so. One wonders if there was even a show of hands or just a general aye.
I suppose it is of course possible that the resigning Leader merely nominated
his deputy as an interim Leader without there being a proper quorum vote.
Regarding churn.
Many candidates stood not really expecting to get elected.
Most UK councillors are part time councillors and if not retired usually
have a day job, so I don't see attendance at a university as a bar.
Quite so. One wonders if there was even a show of hands or just a general aye.
I suppose it is of course possible that the resigning Leader merely nominated
his deputy as an interim Leader without there being a proper quorum vote.
Regarding churn.
Many candidates stood not really expecting to get elected.
Most UK councillors are part time councillors and if not retired usually
have a day job, so I don't see attendance at a university as a bar.
Apparently the Met Office is inviting people to suggest up to 5 names for storms. And also apparently lots of people have been suggesting "Storm Bigoil", along with BP, Equinor, Exxon & Shell. This is obviously appalling & definitely not to be emulated via this link:
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/forms/name-our-storms-call-for-names
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/forms/name-our-storms-call-for-names
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So 16 year olds are assumed to have all the faculties to make voting decisions that are just as informed and valid as anyone else's, but an 18 year old is a "child". Okay then.
