Ultimate Wishlist for potential Civ6 leaders

[Phrozen]

England:
Lord Palmerston
William Marshal

Germany:
Ernst Augustus
Arnulf the Bad (Why not?)
Maximilian I Joesph of Bavaria

 

[Lord of War N02]

My post from old one
More leader choices
Germany(some of them might be not great leader but did play important role)
Arnulf of Carinthia
Wilhelm I
Philip of Swabia
Rudolf I of Germany(he can be also leader for Germany)
Gustav Stresemann
Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg
Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst
Joseph von Radowitz
Karl August von Hardenberg
Frederick William(Elector of Brandenburg)
Louis the German
Charles the Fat
Frederick II(Holy Roman Emperor)
Otto IV
Karl Theodor Anton Maria von Dalberg
Thedo of Bavaria
Widukind
Ariovistus
Heinrich von Gagern
Frederick William III of Prussia
Frederick I of Prussia
Maximilian I of Bavaria

Japan:
Kinmei
Tokugawa Iemitsu
Tenmu
Saiga
Seiwa
Go-Daigo
Hosokawa Katsumoto
Yamana Sozen
Hojo Tokimasa
Nintoku
Emperor Shōmu
Ashikaga Yoshimochi

Spain:
Alfonso V of Aragon
John II of Aragon and Navarre
Henry II of Castile
Philip V
Francisco Serrano, 1st Duke of la Torre
Alfonso V
Íñigo Arista (We need basque leader for Spain)
Charles II of Navarre
Alfonso the Battler

Vietnam:
Ngo Quyen
Ly Nam De
Tran Thanh Tong
Tran Anh Tong
Ly Nhan Tong
Mac Thai To
Le Duan
An Duong Vuong

Myanmar
Kyansittha
Thado Minbya
Tabinshwehti
Hsinbyushin
Thihathu
Swa Saw Ke

Romania:
Basarab I of Wallachia
Alexandru Ioan Cuza
Stephen the Great of Moldavia
Ion Antonescu? (Well he is also regard as 6th greatest Romanian in 100 Greatest Romanians)
Bogdan I of Moldavia
Ferdinand I of Romania
Ion I. C. Brătianu

Hungary:
Bela IV
Geza
John Hunyadi
Ladislaus I of Hungary
Janos Kadar?
Istvan Tisza
Charles I
Almos
Andrew III of Hungary

 

[God of Kings]

How about Wilfred Laurier and John Diefenbaker for Canada?

 

[Roman Citizen]

More leader choices
Egypt
Pharaoh Menes
England
Robert Jenkinson
France
Charles VI
Germany
Helmut Schmidt
Rome
Gaius Gracchus
Sumer
Puabi
Leaders of civ veterans not in civ 6.
Austria
Charles V
Babylon
Nabonidus
Maya
K'inch Yax K'uk Mo'
Yik'in Chan k"awiil
Polynesia/Hawaii
Liliuokalani
Leaders of never before seen civs
Creek/Muscogee
Red Eagle
Italy
Enrico Dondelo
Francesco I Sforza
Frederico da monterfeltro
Giuseppe Garibaldi

 

[Guatenadian]

How about Wilfred Laurier and John Diefenbaker for Canada?

Or Samuel de Champlain?

 

[Roman Citizen]

One more
Jerusalem
Alice of Champagne

 

[Lord of War N02]

Thanks for pointing that out to me, I made that list before the Macedon DLC was announced. I moved Philip II to Macedon and removed Alexander III of Macedon, since he's already in the game.

I think Macedon should be part of Greece as I think Macedon had Hellenic culture like rest of Greek city states. for Macedon, I think other than Alexander III aka the Great or Philip II should be Seleucus I Nicator for Seleucid LEader, Ptolemy I Soter for Ptolemaic Egypt also Ptolemy can be also leader for Egypt. I am not sure other for good leaders of post Alexander in core Macedonia.

 

[TahamiTsunami]

I looked up Smoke Jaguar and found that, not only was Smoke Jaguar his nickname, there is more info on him under his name of Chan Imix K'awiil. Looks like he was dedicated to monument building and ruled for a long time.

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

I think Macedon should be part of Greece as I think Macedon had Hellenic culture like rest of Greek city states. for Macedon, I think other than Alexander III aka the Great or Philip II should be Seleucus I Nicator for Seleucid LEader, Ptolemy I Soter for Ptolemaic Egypt also Ptolemy can be also leader for Egypt. I am not sure other for good leaders of post Alexander in core Macedonia.

As for Macedon's having a Hellenic Culture, that was debated long before Phillip II's time. In fact, when Alexander I of Macedon applied to enter the Olympic Games, they had to convene a special committee to decide if he was 'Greek Enough' to compete. They decided he was, and he won the 'Gold' ('Titan') in one of the foot races. Mark him down as a possible athletic alternative leader for Macedon. The decision, by the way, was made mostly based on the fact that, although they had a funny accent, the Macedonians spoke a (barely!) recognizable Greek and worshipped roughly the same Gods. On the other hand, my old professor, Dr. Eugene Borza, argued that most of the other aspects of their 'culture' were at best Pre-Classical Greek bearing no resemblance to anything anywhere else in Classical Greek City-States: an army of distinctly Fuedal-like retainers (the Macedonian Phalanx was not called the Pezhetairoi, or Foot Companions (of the King) on a whim), a political system based on a royal family whose candidate still had to be 'voted on' by the armed host of the kingdom, and a society based on distinct hierarchy of aristocratic Lords and their followers. As stated, none of this had been seen in any other Greek Polis since the Greek Dark Ages hundreds of years earlier.

That said, other Macedonian Leaders among the 'Successors" who, at one time or another, actually controlled the area of Macedon itself:
Antipator
Kassandros
Polyperchon
Antigonos Monophthalmes ("One Eye")
Demetrios Poliokretes ('The Beseiger")
Lysimachos
Antgonos Gonatas

A colorful, but ephemeral bunch!

 

[Lord of War N02]

Here, another series for new leaders for some civs
Arabia:
Faisal I of Iraq, one of prominent of Pan Arabism
Nasser
Hussein bin Ali, one of prominent of Pan Arabism
Nasir bin Murshid
Said bin Sultan
Ali al-Sulayhi
Baibars
Aybak
Faisal of Saudi Arabia
Ahmad ibn Tulun
Al Mansur Qalawun
Ahmad bin Said
Muhammad Ali, Egyptian Leader not Boxer
Isma'il Pasha, Note: Not Ismail Enver Pasha, Egyptian one
Shukri al-Quwatli
Abd al-Karim Qasim

France:
Charles VII
Louis Philippe I
Chlothar I
Chlothar II
Charles the Bald
Chilperic I, French wiki version has more info
Charles Martel
Charles Gravier
Louis I
Louis IV
Childeric I, forefather of Franks
Dagobert I, more information is in French wiki
Adolphe Thiers
Louis XI of France
Louis XII of France
Patrice de MacMahon, Duke of Magenta
Raymond Poincare
François Mitterrand
Alexandre Millerand
Jules Ferry
Anne of France
Philip the Good (Burgundian duke count as French leader?)
John V, Duke of Brittany (Breton can be counted as well?)
William IX, Duke of Aquitaine
Philippe II, Duke of Orléans (He was a regent during Louis XV was child)

Ottomans
Kenan Evren ?
İsmet İnönü
Mehmed I
Selim II
Süleyman Demirel
Adnan Menderes
Talaat Pasha
Kosem Sultan
Mihrimah Sultan
Safiye Sultan
Nurbanu Sultan
Rustem Pasha
Turgut Özal

 

[AnonymousSpeed]

*reads OP*
You aren't keeping it cool with Coolidge.

 

[liv]

Hmmm There should be a difference between a wishlist for leaders and just a list of leaders

 

[Guandao]

Hmmm There should be a difference between a wishlist for leaders and just a list of leaders

I don't want all of these leaders in the game. I simply added some that others suggested.

 

[liv]

Since we will only have two leaders for each civ maybe those who give suggestions can add their top choices rather than all possibilities for leaders

 

[Guandao]

Since we all know Korea is in the Expansion, I've moved the Korean leaders list to under the Alternate Leaders category.
I'm not hoping for a second Korean leader, but if they did add one, it would probably be male.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Since we all know Korea is in the Expansion, I've moved the Korean leaders list to under the Alternate Leaders category.
I'm not hoping for a second Korean leader, but if they did add one, it would probably be male.

Sejong the Great would be a good alternative leader of Korea. He could have a bonus for inventing the Korean alphabet.

Or if we need an alphabet bonus, Ramkhamhaeng of Siam/Sukhothai could get one for inventing the Thai alphabet.

 

[Guandao]

Sejong the Great would be a good alternative leader of Korea. He could have a bonus for inventing the Korean alphabet.

Or if we need an alphabet bonus, Ramkhamhaeng of Siam/Sukhothai could get one for inventing the Thai alphabet.

I would welcome both back if they get better voice actors.

 

[Lord of War N02]

I would welcome both back if they get better voice actors.

CIV V, Both Korea and Siam had inventor of alphabet leaders but for Siam I would like to see Naresuan or Taksin leading Siam this time and I think Korea deserved second leader like Sejong and Wang Kon as modern South Korean leaders are controversial.

 

[Naktis]

hmm no Elam civ in wishlist ? had quite big and long history and was fighting with assyrians over babylon

 

[Guandao]

Since we know the Netherlands and Mongolia are coming to Civ6 (with Wilhelmina and Genghis Khan as their leaders), I've moved them to under the Alternate Leaders list.