VQ07 - Snakes on Pangea!!
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armstrong
Prince
Hmm, at 6 gold/turn - even if we had Bank + Grocer in St. Pete's (which we don't) it'd take around 100 turns for it to be worth 1200 gold.
I think it would be more fun to send him to Hatty's biggest city so we can upgrade our named Macers to Grens so "we" can get involved in the fighting
I think it would be more fun to send him to Hatty's biggest city so we can upgrade our named Macers to Grens so "we" can get involved in the fighting
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
That's my experience too. This is "I got it" and will play either late tonight or tomorrow sometime.
I concur with Armstrong let's cash that GM.
EDIT: I tried to download the save but the server is off line. DOH....
I will try later...
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Greyfox,
I can't get the save the server is off line. If it is still off line later would you mind uploading it to my email address which I will PM to you.
Thanks Greyfox....
I can't get the save the server is off line. If it is still off line later would you mind uploading it to my email address which I will PM to you.
Thanks Greyfox....
armstrong
Prince
bobrath said:
Hah, we should get some longbows built to free us up. I'm sure Beijing could build 'em in 1 turn.
Also, I've earned a promotion. City Raider, please!
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Turn 1
GA over. Beijing builds Cossack start another. Ainu finishes CH start barracks. GM need ship to transport to Hattys capitol.
Declare war on Ghandi
Turn 2
Moscow finishes lbm start Cossack
Xian finishes CH start Cossack
Worker stuff/troop deployment
Turn 3
Finish chemistry start steel. Attach Karachi with all CATS bombard and take it with Cossacks. Troops in position at Madras.
Turn 4
Cossack takes out elephant and enjoy the sweet taste
Cossack takes out CB
Cossack takes out Pikeman
Cossack takes out Lbm
Mace takes out Cat
Armstrong/Maquis upgraded to Grens.
Turn 5
Ghandi mace attack and kills our mace
Shanghai finishes Cossack start gren
Beijing finishes Cossack start another
Cossack takes out mace Bangalore next
Turn 6
Moscow finishes Cossack start another.
Take Madras no man lost
Turn 7
Very tempted to raze Lahore even though there is furs and marble. City sucks big time.
Turn 8
Nanjing builds Cossack start another
Beijing builds Cossack start another
Ainu finishes barracks start gren
Cossack takes out pike
Armstrong take out lbm (hes hurt, give him a morphine shot aahhh thats better)
Move troops/Workers goofing around building stuff geez go away.
Turn 9
Rostov starts gren finishes bank
Ghangzhou start Caravel for GM
Karachi start theater.
Bangalore left with just 2 defenders after attacking take next turn. Move GM to Guangzhou on goto for transportation.
Turn 10
Beijing finishes Cossack start another
Xian finishes Cossack start another
We take Bangalore loose no men.
We have troops on the way to Delhi which will take a huge relief of culture off the newly capture cities. It isn't that heavily defended and enough cossacks with some cats will be there shortly.
I didn't do any negotiating over the Chemistry as I'd rather keep that advantage for now. We should be able to take Ghandi fairly quick but we are bleeding gold. I didn't revolt to theocracy mainly because the Cossacks are chewing everything up without heavy promotions and in battle are getting nicely promoted. Just didn't like the Anarchy.
Greyfox thanks for emailing me the save appreciate it.
GA over. Beijing builds Cossack start another. Ainu finishes CH start barracks. GM need ship to transport to Hattys capitol.
Declare war on Ghandi
Turn 2
Moscow finishes lbm start Cossack
Xian finishes CH start Cossack
Worker stuff/troop deployment
Turn 3
Finish chemistry start steel. Attach Karachi with all CATS bombard and take it with Cossacks. Troops in position at Madras.
Turn 4
Cossack takes out elephant and enjoy the sweet taste
Cossack takes out CB
Cossack takes out Pikeman
Cossack takes out Lbm
Mace takes out Cat
Armstrong/Maquis upgraded to Grens.
Turn 5
Ghandi mace attack and kills our mace
Shanghai finishes Cossack start gren
Beijing finishes Cossack start another
Cossack takes out mace Bangalore next
Turn 6
Moscow finishes Cossack start another.
Take Madras no man lost
Turn 7
Very tempted to raze Lahore even though there is furs and marble. City sucks big time.
Turn 8
Nanjing builds Cossack start another
Beijing builds Cossack start another
Ainu finishes barracks start gren
Cossack takes out pike
Armstrong take out lbm (hes hurt, give him a morphine shot aahhh thats better)
Move troops/Workers goofing around building stuff geez go away.
Turn 9
Rostov starts gren finishes bank
Ghangzhou start Caravel for GM
Karachi start theater.
Bangalore left with just 2 defenders after attacking take next turn. Move GM to Guangzhou on goto for transportation.
Turn 10
Beijing finishes Cossack start another
Xian finishes Cossack start another
We take Bangalore loose no men.
We have troops on the way to Delhi which will take a huge relief of culture off the newly capture cities. It isn't that heavily defended and enough cossacks with some cats will be there shortly.
I didn't do any negotiating over the Chemistry as I'd rather keep that advantage for now. We should be able to take Ghandi fairly quick but we are bleeding gold. I didn't revolt to theocracy mainly because the Cossacks are chewing everything up without heavy promotions and in battle are getting nicely promoted. Just didn't like the Anarchy.
Greyfox thanks for emailing me the save appreciate it.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Roster
Bobrath <-- -->Some good negotiating
GreyFox <-- just played--> Set up the war nicely
CosmicHail <-- just played --> Just loved running wild with the Cossacks
Armstrong <-- UP --> He's wounded and resting but must fight soon
Eektor <-- OOP until July 29--> Still missing the snakey business
Maquis <--on deck unless Eektor gets back --> Finished off China gobble, gobble....mmmmm
Bobrath <-- -->Some good negotiating
GreyFox <-- just played--> Set up the war nicely
CosmicHail <-- just played --> Just loved running wild with the Cossacks
Armstrong <-- UP --> He's wounded and resting but must fight soon
Eektor <-- OOP until July 29--> Still missing the snakey business
Maquis <--on deck unless Eektor gets back --> Finished off China gobble, gobble....mmmmm
armstrong
Prince
Okay, this is a "got it." I played the preturn... what are our plans for Pytheas the Python? We still have some 7 macers (and could theoretically upgrade our cats to cannons in 7) left to upgrade, so do we want to send him to Egypt for a trade mission?
Also, do we want to go after Toku for the buddhist holy city? I assume by the military builds that we're not stopping at Gandhi (and, we're 5th in GNP - only Nappy is worse!) but I don't want to declare without asking
Also, do we want to go after Toku for the buddhist holy city? I assume by the military builds that we're not stopping at Gandhi (and, we're 5th in GNP - only Nappy is worse!) but I don't want to declare without asking
GreyFox
Make it so ...
I think we want to go after everybody. The snake eats up everything. Its our nature. (but of-course its also our nature to befriend the victim before eating him/her up, but that's anotehr story).
I thought it was decided that we should do a trade mission? How come comsic didn't do it?
I thought it was decided that we should do a trade mission? How come comsic didn't do it?
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Ghangzhou is building a caravel so the GM can board there and head to Egypt. I was a little late in getting the caravel started but wanted a good location to get to Egypt easy.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Hmmm .. ok. You mean we don't have open borders with Freddie?
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
@Greyfox,
mmmmmm yep we do have OB with Freddy but GM would still have to go thru Toku's land by foot who refuses to give OB. I am not sure if you felt a galley would be better?? ergo the question regarding Freddy. I went with caravel:
1. protection 2. ignores borders since no OB with Nappy either.
Maybe I am missing something here??? Freddy is only accessible at Ghangzhou by water.
I have to say that I didn't like declaring on Ghandi since he is pleased with us and yet that Toku laughs in our face with no OB. I would love to tear a side off him damn stubborn Japanese Xenophobe. In fact he angers me so I would like to raze everything like a evil wretched snake of the deep pits of hell. Would go for his Holy city and leave that in Ashes. I think we should call ourselves "Anaconda" since that a snake kicks ass. (sorry guys having a deep dark moment Lord Vader and all). When I play on my own I let my darkside kick in and go after those that offer insult to "The Empire" irregardless of tactical situation. (emotional yes but Passion yes) Passion that burns for the dead bodies of every damn idiot that insults our Empire. I don't find favor in attacking the weak it kind of sickens me and a true warrior will only take on that is a challenge and presents him with Honour. I did not extort from this kind man who calls himself Ghandi. How could take his last 70 gold and then wreak havoc upon him whilst he is defenseless. What is the Honour in that my friends. He had no resisitence and will be taken easily.
I say we take the red landmass from our vision after him without stopping for a break. We are superior now and Toku might have good army but doesn't stand a chance against them even Pikes fall at their feet. These guys are invinciable during this window, let us be the "Anaconda" and choke the life out of everything that insults the mighty snake.
Now see gentlemen we are the strongest of them all so let us prevail.
I like fighting with Honour and I believe Armstrong expressed similiar sentiments regarding Ghandi. So's he a tech bug let him go on and keep us smart. Let us gobble away. We are excelling in science so he isn't that big of a threat. I saw the troops lined up at his border and followed "procedure" as it were but thought Argh I want that Toku bad. I love the cossacks when they are at their climax and mass a lot of them. If there are lbm's guarding they don't stand a chance not even with defenses intact. Cats drive me crazy move like snails and Cossacks move like the wind and wipe everything from their site even with one promotion. Overpowered or what especially if the other guy has LBM. That's why I started building them everywhere.
So now the evil snake deed was done and Ghandi will fall shortly. We are only few turns from taking Delhi. Raze that damn Lahore what a waste of space. Who cares about furs/marble both are useless to us at this point.
I wish I had razed Lahore when I was there but was indecisive on the matter because of team factor. Sometimes I should just go with my gut and do what comes natural. Razing it would get us our iron back too.
Bobrath you are a thinker I can be kind of a bloodthirsty warrior sometimes and passion drives me. I just declared right away wanting to spill blood almost immediately and wasn't thinking about that. Thank you for making realize that would have been a good idea. I did check later (reloaded the save first turn just to look) and he would have given us 70 gold. So my passion driven bloodlust once again made the right decision. We don't need to take his last bit of gold mate, no honour in that for me. (sound like a freaking Klingon Captain Greyfox)
PS that's what I like a CIV 4 you can do what is in your heart without hurting anyone really but practice it out. Let the darkness flow Skywalker. Feel the surge of the Darkside. Give in to your anger, rage and passion young Jedi. Yes Master, I will join the darkside.
Also Toku insults of providing Nappy access to our land really got my goat.
HE MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
mmmmmm yep we do have OB with Freddy but GM would still have to go thru Toku's land by foot who refuses to give OB. I am not sure if you felt a galley would be better?? ergo the question regarding Freddy. I went with caravel:
1. protection 2. ignores borders since no OB with Nappy either.
Maybe I am missing something here??? Freddy is only accessible at Ghangzhou by water.
I have to say that I didn't like declaring on Ghandi since he is pleased with us and yet that Toku laughs in our face with no OB. I would love to tear a side off him damn stubborn Japanese Xenophobe. In fact he angers me so I would like to raze everything like a evil wretched snake of the deep pits of hell. Would go for his Holy city and leave that in Ashes. I think we should call ourselves "Anaconda" since that a snake kicks ass. (sorry guys having a deep dark moment Lord Vader and all). When I play on my own I let my darkside kick in and go after those that offer insult to "The Empire" irregardless of tactical situation. (emotional yes but Passion yes) Passion that burns for the dead bodies of every damn idiot that insults our Empire. I don't find favor in attacking the weak it kind of sickens me and a true warrior will only take on that is a challenge and presents him with Honour. I did not extort from this kind man who calls himself Ghandi. How could take his last 70 gold and then wreak havoc upon him whilst he is defenseless. What is the Honour in that my friends. He had no resisitence and will be taken easily.
I say we take the red landmass from our vision after him without stopping for a break. We are superior now and Toku might have good army but doesn't stand a chance against them even Pikes fall at their feet. These guys are invinciable during this window, let us be the "Anaconda" and choke the life out of everything that insults the mighty snake.
Now see gentlemen we are the strongest of them all so let us prevail.
I like fighting with Honour and I believe Armstrong expressed similiar sentiments regarding Ghandi. So's he a tech bug let him go on and keep us smart. Let us gobble away. We are excelling in science so he isn't that big of a threat. I saw the troops lined up at his border and followed "procedure" as it were but thought Argh I want that Toku bad. I love the cossacks when they are at their climax and mass a lot of them. If there are lbm's guarding they don't stand a chance not even with defenses intact. Cats drive me crazy move like snails and Cossacks move like the wind and wipe everything from their site even with one promotion. Overpowered or what especially if the other guy has LBM. That's why I started building them everywhere.
So now the evil snake deed was done and Ghandi will fall shortly. We are only few turns from taking Delhi. Raze that damn Lahore what a waste of space. Who cares about furs/marble both are useless to us at this point.
I wish I had razed Lahore when I was there but was indecisive on the matter because of team factor. Sometimes I should just go with my gut and do what comes natural. Razing it would get us our iron back too.
Bobrath you are a thinker I can be kind of a bloodthirsty warrior sometimes and passion drives me. I just declared right away wanting to spill blood almost immediately and wasn't thinking about that. Thank you for making realize that would have been a good idea. I did check later (reloaded the save first turn just to look) and he would have given us 70 gold. So my passion driven bloodlust once again made the right decision. We don't need to take his last bit of gold mate, no honour in that for me. (sound like a freaking Klingon Captain Greyfox)
PS that's what I like a CIV 4 you can do what is in your heart without hurting anyone really but practice it out. Let the darkness flow Skywalker. Feel the surge of the Darkside. Give in to your anger, rage and passion young Jedi. Yes Master, I will join the darkside.
Also Toku insults of providing Nappy access to our land really got my goat.
HE MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
bobrath
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so um.... have a bad bowl of wheaties this morning there Cosmic?
I'd love to wipe Tok off the face (and he should be next), but I wanted to make sure our backdoor was secure AND didn't have to deal with Baldy ruining tech monoploies, building wonders first, and getting Hatty even more in bed with him. Hurt him now before Hatty makes us pay!
I'd love to wipe Tok off the face (and he should be next), but I wanted to make sure our backdoor was secure AND didn't have to deal with Baldy ruining tech monoploies, building wonders first, and getting Hatty even more in bed with him. Hurt him now before Hatty makes us pay!
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
To be honest Bobrath we have a competition in Pacifist/Jihadist and got wiped out by the barbs for not building 1 warrior. It kind of got me going. Feel better now a cup of tea and a bit of ranting and raving always makes me feel better.
Yuk that's creepy, Hatty and Ghandi in bed. Why did you have to paint that picture for me. But you are right gobble, gobble as Greyfox would say.
Yuk that's creepy, Hatty and Ghandi in bed. Why did you have to paint that picture for me. But you are right gobble, gobble as Greyfox would say.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
hmm ... not according to minimap on one of the latest screenshot ... we had a clear path to the yelow region through the white land. Well, gobbling up Gandhi is more of a strategic need than who we like/dislike. If it makes you feel better, think of it as doing a favor to Gandhi by taking him out of his misery
and allowig his people to prosper in a stronger civilization ... (hmm.. isn't that what all the conquerer says in histroy?? )The game is such that we gobble up everything ... but I do agree that since this is just Prince, we could afford to let Gandhi live and still win the game easily, but if it were Monarch or higher, the way we had played thus far is exatly how we should have played.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Greyfox I don't want to harp on this but if you look the white region bordering with orange region it is only connected by water. There is no land connection between the white/orange region. Unless I have been smoking some Jamaican Gold and missing something (and looked in the game several times to clarify) I only can see a path by foot thru Toku's land.
You're right about conquerers he's better off with a superior civilization.
Yep that's how I think too because eventually on Prince you can fly by the AI and wave out the window in your mercedes.
You're right about conquerers he's better off with a superior civilization.
Yep that's how I think too because eventually on Prince you can fly by the AI and wave out the window in your mercedes.
armstrong
Prince
Yes, Cosmichail is right about there being no land route. I whipped the Caravel, and it sailed a grand total of 3 squares to drop the merchant off. However, it will be useful to blockade Toku in the south, and it lets us spy on the before unknown city of Osaka, which conveniently enough Toku appears to be keeping his main stack in
I've played 9 turns so far (11 will get us back to an even number, but I think this is a good stopping point.) I don't have time for a report right now, though. I'll see if I can get one late tonight or tomorrow afternoon. The quick story is that we finished off Gandhi (though, he put up a fight in Bombay, where he bought himself an extra turn despite being up against a stack of 9 cossacks with catapult support.)
Bad news is that he had built NO shrines. Good news is that he had built 4 academies...
Our economy is rough due to our large army & big empire. Distance costs, in particular, are hurting us. I almost built the Forbidden Palace in Beijing, but then realized we'd not be able to build West Point there. We have two Banks that will finish next turn in Moscow & St. Pete, though, and Gandhi had a decent amount of developed cottages, so it's not the end of the world. Also, I traded for Printing Press from Fred which helped significantly.
Here's the question: we raised a Great Engineer in Beijing. We can use him for (at least) 3 things:
1. Save him for the Statue of Liberty. Hatty has had Constitution for a while and just got Printing Press, so we'll probably need to use him if we want that wonder - we just have PP. That, combined with a switch to Representation+Mercantilism, would be great. 34 free specialists and 102 free beakers
2. Use him to rush Versailles in Beijing. This will greatly help with distance maintenance.
3. Use him to rush IW somewhere. One of the cities next to Beijing has excellent production potential with lots of grass hills, or alternatively we could put it in Beijing so it can crank Cossacks at 1/turn, freeing up our other cities to build infrastructure.
I've played 9 turns so far (11 will get us back to an even number, but I think this is a good stopping point.) I don't have time for a report right now, though. I'll see if I can get one late tonight or tomorrow afternoon. The quick story is that we finished off Gandhi (though, he put up a fight in Bombay, where he bought himself an extra turn despite being up against a stack of 9 cossacks with catapult support.)
Bad news is that he had built NO shrines. Good news is that he had built 4 academies...
Our economy is rough due to our large army & big empire. Distance costs, in particular, are hurting us. I almost built the Forbidden Palace in Beijing, but then realized we'd not be able to build West Point there. We have two Banks that will finish next turn in Moscow & St. Pete, though, and Gandhi had a decent amount of developed cottages, so it's not the end of the world. Also, I traded for Printing Press from Fred which helped significantly.
Here's the question: we raised a Great Engineer in Beijing. We can use him for (at least) 3 things:
1. Save him for the Statue of Liberty. Hatty has had Constitution for a while and just got Printing Press, so we'll probably need to use him if we want that wonder - we just have PP. That, combined with a switch to Representation+Mercantilism, would be great. 34 free specialists and 102 free beakers
2. Use him to rush Versailles in Beijing. This will greatly help with distance maintenance.
3. Use him to rush IW somewhere. One of the cities next to Beijing has excellent production potential with lots of grass hills, or alternatively we could put it in Beijing so it can crank Cossacks at 1/turn, freeing up our other cities to build infrastructure.
armstrong
Prince
Okay, here's the report. Note that most of this was written while I was playing. See the previous post regarding what to do with the Leonardo situation.
NO AUTOLOG!!! Grr. I guess I'll need to get used to it for SGOTM2.
All of our cities are on military builds... is that really necessary?
We have 14 Cossacks... no "Prince" Tokugawa will be able to handle that. I'm going to get us some more infrastructure.
MM all the cities for commerce save Beijing. I think it can pump enough Cossacks out on it's own to get domination.
We need two more uni's to build Oxford in Moscow. [ed. Stupidly, I only assigned one city to build one.
]
Novgorod whips it's forge... we save 24 turns for 1 pop.
Beijing has some FP's that can be replaced with watermills. I think this is a high priority. I don't know, I'm in love with this city. Once I saw it, I knew if we took it it'd be a won game. That being said, I whip it's cossack. Tough love.
Xian is a good production center too. A possible IW candidate? Lots of grassland hills & two bananas.
Ainu moves from mines to coast - it's stagnant.
Karachi... hmm, I probably would have razed it, but it's got some fishes and three cottageable tiles so it will not be a drag.
Rename "Pytheas" to "Pytheas Python."
Hey, I got a _medic_ promotion? Oh well, I guess it means I'll get March...
Whip the caravel in Guangzhou so we can get our merchant out faster. [ed. despite writing this, I forgot to and pressed enter and completely forgot about it.]
1600 AD
Some military builds finish, I start on infrastructure - our economy is screaming - even at 40% we're losing some pocket change. Some courthouses will help, along with a Bank in Moscow. Beijing will get a Courthouse and then Library - it has some commerce, but most importantly it has enough food to run specialists. I'd like to hire some scientists there, since we can only run 1 engineer.
Send a stack of CR catapults towards Tokugawa's lands. We can upgrade these to cannon. [ed. this ended up costing us a Cossack, but I think it was worthwhile to get some cannon on the frontlines - we'll need 'em for Kyoto.]
Get ready to attack Delhi in 1605, Lahore in 1610.
1605 AD
A great engineer is born in Beijing. Yay! We could save him for the Statue of Liberty?
Gandhi sends some elephants out, possibly delaying the attack on Lahore.
Attack Delhi right away - could have gotten better odds, but we're starving too badly as it is and need to ease off the culture.
Delhi is captured, no losses. We STILL have no relief from cultural pressure! Delhi has the Great Library and an academy, but NO shrine...
Great Merchant boards caravel, sails 3 tiles to Freddy's lands.
Sign Open Borders with Napoleon - he's pleased with us. What's a little war between friends? I guess we're the ones who should be upset... but we'll take the trade routes, please.
Building mostly cottages for our economy, but also some road links & workshopping the floodplains in Beijing.
1610 AD
Madras revolts, which is actually a good thing - it keeps them from starving starving. Remind me to print some more revolutionary leaflets up for Delhi...
Catapults march with a 2 cossack escort to Gandhi's really holy city of Bombay. The rest of the cossacks heal up. They'll split to go between Bombay & Calcutta. Gandhi should be out of his misery by 1625 or 1630.
Our caraval finds Tokugawa's stack. He's got a stack that looks like it belongs more in Monarch than Prince, but knights & elephants aren't going to scare away our Cossacks
1615 AD
Napolean adopts Theocracy. Sure enough, he's got "enough" on his hands right now. I seriously doubt he'd come after us again? I'm guessing he's going after Freddy, as they're dead even in power.
The battle for Lahore. It's tough because it has 60% culture and a pikeman. I send in a CR2 gren. It's a risky move (and I would hate losing him) but it's either him attack at 61% or a Cossack at 28%... he wins with 0.6 health left!
Gandhi actually has some some forces left in Bombay, including, but not limited to, 4 macers and 4 CD2 LB. I'm worried he's going to empty the city and take out our catapults, though he could have done so last turn... I'd rather fight the macers outside the city anyway.
1620 AD
No counterattack from Gandhi.
Freddy offers us Economics for Nationalism. I consider it, but first check to see what other trades are available. [ed: and "considered" this for 3 more turns, before I remembered...]
Decide not to build Library in Beijing, build a Market instead for the +3 happy and ability to run Merchants. After that I'll put it back to military builds, promise!
Troops are in position to finish Gandhi next turn, though Calcutta might be risky since it's on a hill and has 60% culture still (I probably should have sent the second stack of cats to it, but I figured it was best to them over to Tokugawa sooner rather than later.)
1625 AD
Gandhi attacks Armstrong in Delhi with a catapult. I defeat it without a scratch, but the jerk retreats!
Bombay is bombarded, but I decide to wait another turn to soften up his 4 (!) CD2 longbowmen with a catapult.
The battle for Calcutta begins. It might need to be called off if luck goes against us...
Cossack loses to LB at 71% odds. Cossack beats pike at 71% odds. Cossack beats LB at 75% odds. Phew. Beat the wounded LB, and the city is ours!
Armstrong finishes off the catapult, and then heads east to the Tokugawa front.
Btw, so far 4 of 5 of Gandhi's cities have Academies in them. He also had a lot of cottages built, so this should really help our research
1630 AD
Napoleon demands we stop trading with Hatty. No way, buddy. He's now cautious again.
Research is set to Printing Press. It leads either to Replaceable Parts/Rifling/Assembly Line or to Democracy. I like going for Democracy - Hatty's had Constitution a while, so we'll face Emancipation soon, and we could use the Engineer to build most of the Statue of Liberty.
I decide to make the trade with Fred: Nationalism for Economics. Fred is, unfortunately, dirt poor so I can't get much gold. He says his worst enemy is Tokugawa, so I doubt it will get to him...
We should revolt to Free Market or Mercantilism at some point, but I'll leave it up to discussion. Personally, if we're going the Statue of Liberty route I think Representation+Mercantilism would be good for our large empire.
Cats bombard Bombay again. One attacks at 0.0% odds and withdraws. Cossack dies at 88% odds. 
We won't be able to take the city this turn, now. Win a few, lose another Cossack at 94% odds. Win a few more, the attack stalls with two LB's left in the city. Bah.
1635 AD
Finally!
Bombay is captured. Just a forge, no shrines! Grr! Gandhi must have gotten all scientists due to the GLib...
1640 AD
Back to peace. Our economy is hurting right now (down to about 45%.) We're in real danger, if we don't get some infra built before war with Toku, of breaking it. Now that the rush of fighting is gone, I pay a little bit more attention to the cities.
Troops are moving towards the eastern front.
Notes
I didn't mention it in the "mano log" but I built some longbowmen/shuffled troops around to relieve our named macers of their garrison duties. All are around Rostov save Armstrong who's over in Shanghai trying to catch up. Our cossacks are moving to that front now as the collateral cat stack, albeit more slowly.
We also have our cr2 cat stack in Rostov as well. We have 2600 gold in the bank, so I think that'd be enough money to upgrade the macers & cats to grens & cannon.
I set research on Constitution, but there are no beakers invested in it. I like either going Constitution -> Democracy for the Statue of Liberty (with a lil' help from Leo) or Replaceable Parts. We'll need Emancipation soon enough, though, because we don't want WW and Hatty's (soon to be) content people messing with our civ's mind. Of course, we can also purse Scientific Method -> Physics -> (Scientist helped) Biology - we have a lot of farms.
What do y'all think?
NO AUTOLOG!!! Grr. I guess I'll need to get used to it for SGOTM2.
All of our cities are on military builds... is that really necessary?
We have 14 Cossacks... no "Prince" Tokugawa will be able to handle that. I'm going to get us some more infrastructure.
MM all the cities for commerce save Beijing. I think it can pump enough Cossacks out on it's own to get domination.
We need two more uni's to build Oxford in Moscow. [ed. Stupidly, I only assigned one city to build one.
]Novgorod whips it's forge... we save 24 turns for 1 pop.
Beijing has some FP's that can be replaced with watermills. I think this is a high priority. I don't know, I'm in love with this city. Once I saw it, I knew if we took it it'd be a won game. That being said, I whip it's cossack. Tough love.
Xian is a good production center too. A possible IW candidate? Lots of grassland hills & two bananas.
Ainu moves from mines to coast - it's stagnant.
Karachi... hmm, I probably would have razed it, but it's got some fishes and three cottageable tiles so it will not be a drag.
Rename "Pytheas" to "Pytheas Python."
Hey, I got a _medic_ promotion? Oh well, I guess it means I'll get March...
Whip the caravel in Guangzhou so we can get our merchant out faster. [ed. despite writing this, I forgot to and pressed enter and completely forgot about it.]
1600 AD
Some military builds finish, I start on infrastructure - our economy is screaming - even at 40% we're losing some pocket change. Some courthouses will help, along with a Bank in Moscow. Beijing will get a Courthouse and then Library - it has some commerce, but most importantly it has enough food to run specialists. I'd like to hire some scientists there, since we can only run 1 engineer.
Send a stack of CR catapults towards Tokugawa's lands. We can upgrade these to cannon. [ed. this ended up costing us a Cossack, but I think it was worthwhile to get some cannon on the frontlines - we'll need 'em for Kyoto.]
Get ready to attack Delhi in 1605, Lahore in 1610.
1605 AD
A great engineer is born in Beijing. Yay! We could save him for the Statue of Liberty?
Gandhi sends some elephants out, possibly delaying the attack on Lahore.
Attack Delhi right away - could have gotten better odds, but we're starving too badly as it is and need to ease off the culture.
Delhi is captured, no losses. We STILL have no relief from cultural pressure! Delhi has the Great Library and an academy, but NO shrine...
Great Merchant boards caravel, sails 3 tiles to Freddy's lands.
Sign Open Borders with Napoleon - he's pleased with us. What's a little war between friends? I guess we're the ones who should be upset... but we'll take the trade routes, please.
Building mostly cottages for our economy, but also some road links & workshopping the floodplains in Beijing.
1610 AD
Madras revolts, which is actually a good thing - it keeps them from starving starving.
Remind me to print some more revolutionary leaflets up for Delhi...Catapults march with a 2 cossack escort to Gandhi's really holy city of Bombay. The rest of the cossacks heal up. They'll split to go between Bombay & Calcutta. Gandhi should be out of his misery by 1625 or 1630.
Our caraval finds Tokugawa's stack. He's got a stack that looks like it belongs more in Monarch than Prince, but knights & elephants aren't going to scare away our Cossacks
1615 AD
Napolean adopts Theocracy. Sure enough, he's got "enough" on his hands right now. I seriously doubt he'd come after us again? I'm guessing he's going after Freddy, as they're dead even in power.
The battle for Lahore. It's tough because it has 60% culture and a pikeman. I send in a CR2 gren. It's a risky move (and I would hate losing him) but it's either him attack at 61% or a Cossack at 28%... he wins with 0.6 health left!
Gandhi actually has some some forces left in Bombay, including, but not limited to, 4 macers and 4 CD2 LB. I'm worried he's going to empty the city and take out our catapults, though he could have done so last turn... I'd rather fight the macers outside the city anyway.
1620 AD
No counterattack from Gandhi.
Freddy offers us Economics for Nationalism. I consider it, but first check to see what other trades are available. [ed: and "considered" this for 3 more turns, before I remembered...]
Decide not to build Library in Beijing, build a Market instead for the +3 happy and ability to run Merchants. After that I'll put it back to military builds, promise!
Troops are in position to finish Gandhi next turn, though Calcutta might be risky since it's on a hill and has 60% culture still (I probably should have sent the second stack of cats to it, but I figured it was best to them over to Tokugawa sooner rather than later.)
1625 AD
Gandhi attacks Armstrong in Delhi with a catapult. I defeat it without a scratch, but the jerk retreats!
Bombay is bombarded, but I decide to wait another turn to soften up his 4 (!) CD2 longbowmen with a catapult.
The battle for Calcutta begins. It might need to be called off if luck goes against us...
Cossack loses to LB at 71% odds. Cossack beats pike at 71% odds. Cossack beats LB at 75% odds. Phew. Beat the wounded LB, and the city is ours!
Armstrong finishes off the catapult, and then heads east to the Tokugawa front.
Btw, so far 4 of 5 of Gandhi's cities have Academies in them. He also had a lot of cottages built, so this should really help our research
1630 AD
Napoleon demands we stop trading with Hatty. No way, buddy. He's now cautious again.
Research is set to Printing Press. It leads either to Replaceable Parts/Rifling/Assembly Line or to Democracy. I like going for Democracy - Hatty's had Constitution a while, so we'll face Emancipation soon, and we could use the Engineer to build most of the Statue of Liberty.
I decide to make the trade with Fred: Nationalism for Economics. Fred is, unfortunately, dirt poor so I can't get much gold. He says his worst enemy is Tokugawa, so I doubt it will get to him...
We should revolt to Free Market or Mercantilism at some point, but I'll leave it up to discussion. Personally, if we're going the Statue of Liberty route I think Representation+Mercantilism would be good for our large empire.
Cats bombard Bombay again. One attacks at 0.0% odds and withdraws.
Cossack dies at 88% odds. We won't be able to take the city this turn, now. Win a few, lose another Cossack at 94% odds. Win a few more, the attack stalls with two LB's left in the city. Bah.1635 AD
Finally!
Bombay is captured. Just a forge, no shrines! Grr! Gandhi must have gotten all scientists due to the GLib...
1640 AD
Back to peace. Our economy is hurting right now (down to about 45%.) We're in real danger, if we don't get some infra built before war with Toku, of breaking it. Now that the rush of fighting is gone, I pay a little bit more attention to the cities.
Troops are moving towards the eastern front.
Notes
I didn't mention it in the "mano log" but I built some longbowmen/shuffled troops around to relieve our named macers of their garrison duties. All are around Rostov save Armstrong who's over in Shanghai trying to catch up. Our cossacks are moving to that front now as the collateral cat stack, albeit more slowly.
We also have our cr2 cat stack in Rostov as well. We have 2600 gold in the bank, so I think that'd be enough money to upgrade the macers & cats to grens & cannon.
I set research on Constitution, but there are no beakers invested in it. I like either going Constitution -> Democracy for the Statue of Liberty (with a lil' help from Leo) or Replaceable Parts. We'll need Emancipation soon enough, though, because we don't want WW and Hatty's (soon to be) content people messing with our civ's mind. Of course, we can also purse Scientific Method -> Physics -> (Scientist helped) Biology - we have a lot of farms.
What do y'all think?
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