"War does not determine who is right, it determines who is left." - true or not ?

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Read this phrase in a "joke" email I received.
Spoiler :
Confucius say.....

Man who wants pretty nurse, must be patient.

Passionate kiss, like spider web, leads to undoing of fly.

Lady who goes camping must beware of evil intent.

Squirrel who runs up womans' leg will not find nuts.

Man who leaps off cliff jumps to conclusion.

Man who runs in front of car gets tired, man who runs behind car gets
exhausted.

Man who eats many prunes get good run for money.

War does not determine who is right, it determines who is left.

Man who fight with wife all day get no piece at night.

It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it.

Man who drives like hell is bound to get there.

Man who stands on toilet is high on pot.

Man who live in glass house should change clothes in basement.

Man who fish in other man's well often catch crabs.

Finally CONFUCIUS SAY. . .

"A lion will not cheat on his wife, but a Tiger Wood!"
And wonder how true it is ?

Many wars if not most are determined by who is left standing at the end.
 
That's generally how war works. Most of the time they're fought over subjective issues that don't have a clear answer - did Poland really belong to the Polish? I can't even think of an example of a war that stemmed from a testable fact that can be 'right.'

It's not the most true statement, because very few wars result in the complete elimination of one side. I mean, the allies won WWII but Germans, and more specifically Nazis, are still around today.
 
The Third Reich is most certainly not around today though and nor are the Austrian Empire, the German Empire, the Aztecs or others or their kind.
 
Confucius says...

"Stop using my name like a God damn Mastercard spoof! God frickin damn it, you are not clever if you put my name in front of stupid crap you know what I'm sick of this I'm gonna kick your ass!"
 
Cute. More or less true. Not very edifying or original or unique or even all that useful.
 
Unless you think actions and outcomes all come from an infallible divinity, of course it's true.
 
It's been said countless times before.

It's usually used to discredit any argument for violence to solve a problem.

It has a correlated saying though: "History is written by the victors." Since whoever is left is they ones who will be able to write the history, they will, for all intents and purposes, be right.

Though of course, both sayings are somewhat inaccurate. So yeah, not that useful either way.
 
True wit comes from the mind. For everything else, there's Confucius quote chain letters.
 
Usually true, but sometimes the objective of war is not annihilation.
 
Usually true, but sometimes the objective of war is not annihilation.
Actual it usually is ... annihilation of another ideal, if possible.
 
I believe the quote was originally by Bertrand Russell. I don't think he was speaking in jest.
 
History's written by the victors!

Might may not make right, but it makes the right to hold onto something.

Whoever emerges victorious, will control whatever remains.
 
Google is not a limitless source of knowledge.
So you're gonna refer to an obscure civil war that we know nothing about and use it as an argument in this discussion without telling us anything about what it was about? Very well.

I believe the quote was originally by Bertrand Russell. I don't think he was speaking in jest.
Russell was an ardent pacifist, wasn't he?

The saying isn't wrong, per see, but it really isn't applicable to all many situations.
 
Well, most of the time, but having recently written an article on the Suez crisis I'd hesistate to say that wars are always won by the stronger side. Often, in the modern day, attempts by countries to strong-arm others end up being beaten down by moral condemnation and the threat of force - or at least non-intervention, as between Taiwan and China (where both exist, depending on which side you're on) - meaning that being 'right' helps considerably
 
So you're gonna refer to an obscure civil war that we know nothing about and use it as an argument in this discussion without telling us anything about what it was about? Very well.
Well, you should have asked then. :P
In the late 17th century, the reigning O'Neil, Turlough Luineach was getting very old and alchoholic (he famously caused a succession crisis when he was pronounced dead after a drinking session, only to rise a day later, presumably with a wicked hangover).
The principal combatants were Turlough, Hugh O'Neil, the Earl of Tyrone, and the MacShane brothers. Turlough's principal strength was that he was already the O'Neil, the MacShane brothers as their name implies controlled the access to mercenaries from Scotland, while Hugh O'Neil had the central location and the implied support of the O'Donnels. He won it after the O'Donnels entered the conflict after Hugh Roe O'Neil escaped his wine induced captivity to claim rulership of Tyrconnel.
The conflict completely altered the balance of power in Ireland.
 
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