What are "American Values"?

"Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are american dreams"
Rage Against the Machine - Know your enemy

sprang immediately to mind.
thank you, thank you very little.
 
* bigotry
* racism
* anti-social behavior
* radical and intolerant sectism, preferably of the Christian kind

at least, these are the outstanding qualities of those whom I here on CFC see spouting the 'our values are in danger' paroles most.

Previously, I would have though that
* tolerance
* equality
* freedom of the individual
* social transmissibility
are at the core of America's values.
 
blackheart said:
Nah.

Football, McDonald's, American Pie and Ford.

Well, am I the only one old enough to remember the commercial that used the jingle "baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and chevrolet, they go together in the good ol USA?"

Thats what I was referring to.

Btw, what is an American Pie? Besides a loss reference to the song?
 
American values are laudable and beyond reproach, I think the problem the world has is when they try to force these on others :D:mischief:
 
carlosMM said:
* bigotry
* racism
* anti-social behavior
* radical and intolerant sectism, preferably of the Christian kind
I would suggest this directly relates to the person's educational experience and the social extremes from city to suburb to boonies.
carlosMM said:
Previously, I would have though that
* tolerance
* equality
* freedom of the individual
* social transmissibility
are at the core of America's values.
All I know is this sounds more like the people I associate with.
 
I think real American values are those reflected in recepients of the Medal of Honor.
 
I believe American values are those upon which the country was founded and which are written in the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.

Freedom of speech (and I don't mean freedom of speech in English only), religion, and the press, the right to speak one's mind and act on one's own conscience and to choose to worship or not worship without the fear of persecution or proselytization from others, and without fear of persecution or discrimination because of my race or culture.

American values include freedom from tyranny and oppression, a right for citizens to participate in government, and be free from arbitrary searches, arrests, and free from sentencing without a fair trial in a jury of my peers.

I believe in the American values of everybody having the same rights and being held to the same standards, and no one being discriminated, excluded, or deprived of rights based on religion, ethnicity, race, gender, etc. Everyone being held to the same standard of human worth and dignity.

I believe in a sense of civil duty as an American, as the citizen's duty to protect the freedom and rights guarunteed by the state. I believe that a citizen should participate in the political process by at least voting, serve in jury duty, spend at least some time doing volunteer and charity work, and to defend the country from enemies if called upon. (defend being key, as I most assuredly don't support that Iraq mess though I agreed with the Afghanistan campaign)

I believe America was built up by peoples from many parts of the world, and one of the country's greatest strengths and points of pride was in its openness and accepting the poor, the persecuted, the destitute, the minorities of the world and by welcoming their contributions, allowed them to add to and enrich the tapestry that is American culture. I believe that the US was and still is a place of oppurtunity, and that anyone, even the poorest of the poor, can, through hard work, education, and ingenuity, succeed in the US, as this is something I've witness firsthand in my own family (who were immigrants). Here's a poem from the Statue of Liberty which I believe represents such American values.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!


Of American values, I assuredly do not believe them to be "Traditional European Christian cultural outlook", but then again, I'm biased, as I'm American yet none of those. And of course, I'm highly suspicious when I hear people trying to "protect" me from things they don't want seen or read, in the name of defending "traditional American values". And of course, I believe that the values underlying patriotism are far more important than just blind patriotism itself, so you don't find me ra-ra-ra-ing madly with the US flag against the French.
 
No mention of either of the US mottos?

The original by the Founding Fathers: E Pluribus Unum One from many

Changed officially in 1966: In God We Trust

Being an agnostic/atheist illegal immigrant, you can guess which I think better represents the US
 
America values wealth, faith, individualism (not really), duty, courage, and family or what not.

something like that.
 
kingjoshi said:
No mention of either of the US mottos?

The original by the Founding Fathers: E Pluribus Unum One from many

Changed officially in 1966: In God We Trust

Being an agnostic/atheist illegal immigrant, you can guess which I think better represents the US
Good post. I have always liked E plurbus Unum more too. It certainly speaks to me more of national identity and pride than the other.
 
kingjoshi said:
No mention of either of the US mottos?

The original by the Founding Fathers: E Pluribus Unum One from many

Changed officially in 1966: In God We Trust

Being an agnostic/atheist illegal immigrant, you can guess which I think better represents the US

Francis Scott Key thought otherwise when he wrote America's national anthem in 1814....it was also found on many types of currency nationwide throughout the 19th century.

In God We Trust...
It was adopted "officially" by Eisenhower in 1956...

Much more representative of the God-fearing men who built this country...
 
Sobieski II said:
Like Benjamin Franklin? :p
He didn't build this country...
 
Inqvisitor said:
Much more representative of the God-fearing men who built this country...

Which ones?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"− First Amendment,
Constitution of the United States of America.

"Erecting the wall of separation between church and state, therefore, is absolutely essential in a free
society.
"− Thomas Jefferson, in an 1808 letter to the Virginia Baptists.

"the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in
itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] ... it is
declared ... that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever product an interruption of the
harmony existing between the two countries ... The United States is not a Christian nation any more
than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation.
"− The Treaty of Tripoli, written under Washington,
approved by the Senate, and signed into law by John Adams, 1797.

"In those parts of the world where learning and science have prevailed, miracles have ceased; but in
those parts of it as are barbarous and ignorant, miracles are still in vogue.
"− Ethan Allen (American
revolutionary hero), Reason the Only Oracle of Man.

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United
States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies may be illustrated by precedents already
furnished in their short history.
"− James Madison (in 1811, he further demonstrated his support for
church−state separation by vetoing a bill which would have set aside public land for a Baptist church).

"Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of
sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be
deprecated.
"− George Washington.

"Think how great a proportion of Mankind consists of weak and ignorant Men and Women, and of
inexperienced Youth of both Sexes, who have need of the Motives of Religion to restrain them from
Vice, to support their Virtue, and retain them in the Practice of it.
"− Benjamin Franklin, 1757.

"The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted
the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion. It has been the
most dishonorable belief against the character of the Divinity, the most destructive to morality and the
peace and happiness of man, that ever was propagated since man began to exist.
"− Thomas Paine, The
Age of Reason.

"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the
scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I
shall ever change them.
"− Abraham Lincoln (not a founding father, but generally considered a great
president).
 
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