tjs282
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Isn't Dwayne Johnson a Republican though? Or did he defect?
What can the Democrats do?
Yes he is Republican last time I checked... and also has been overall mildly supportive of Trump or at least relatively neutral.
Zardnaar
Deity
Alot of the top guys from that era of WWE swing that way as well.
HBK, Rock, Hogan, Kane, Taker. Probably Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Most aren't to fanatic about it though. Vince cough cough.
Rocks Samoan iirc. Here they swing right on social issues left economically. What appeals the most depends.
His family has been in the business 50 odd years now.
I would be more surprised he didn't swing that way.
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So. There's an answer to the thread title: run a Republican.
The obvious joke being that the Democrats basically did that by running Biden... as in they compromised by running such an old school, establishment, centrist, "neoliberal", etc., Democrat, that he was virtually indistinguishable from the modern Republicans just a couple decades ago.
Zardnaar
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He won. Option B was Trump.
Sapphire blue Dems need to get out more and you know win a nomination then win general. Until they can do that.....
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Zardnaar
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He did a bit in hindsight.
Same dumb crap gets said here. They did nothing. Then you list what they did do.
Biden dropping out late wrecked the Democrats. No time for a primary.
danjuno
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You know what I meant. If it was enough, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Evie
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Mind, very few governments, no matter their accomplishment, survived the late covid inflation in very good shape.
People are very good at getting really angry when prices go markedly up, and blaming it on their overnment even if evidence suggests it's happening to everyone.
People are very good at getting really angry when prices go markedly up, and blaming it on their overnment even if evidence suggests it's happening to everyone.
KMRblue1027
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Sadly yeah that's the real rub the election of 24 was lost in Nov 2020. Getting caught with the post-covid inflation was death to any government that year. The Democratic Party actually did above average making it close when most other incumbents around the world got blown out. A lot of that is not their doing it was Trump being unpopular and the 2 party system but that election would have been a insane run to win by any party.
There's a great study from years ago that drought is the biggest predictor in a democratic governments election chances covid inflation was very similar.
There's a great study from years ago that drought is the biggest predictor in a democratic governments election chances covid inflation was very similar.
danjuno
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There is still precedent for governments that do respond aggressively enough to major crises getting re-elected, i.e. FDR in 1936. The fact remains that an institutionalist like Biden was not up to the task of making the needed fundamental changes.
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He was to the left of Obama, Clinton, and by economic accounts, Carter, so I don't know where this comes from. A couple decades ago was George Bush whose presidency was to the right of the first Trump Administration, a couple decades before that was Reagan who was to the right of Satan.
Zardnaar
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FDR had a bigger mandate for change.
Covid doesn't even compare to great depression.
Modern society may be "weak" if thats the right word.
***** and moan on Twitter vs charge up beach at D-Day. They wont even join army now.
Decadence settles in, politicians fail seems familiar.
danjuno
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He won, how large the margin/mandate was doesn't matter.
Just because the Dow Jones recovered after a few weeks doesn't mean there have been major socioeconomic consequences.
The Boomers who peddle this nonsense inherited the post-war boom from the GI generation and completely ran it into the ground, then have the audacity to blame their kids for it for it.
Evie
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Call me crazy, but the difference between a 0-seat vp tiebreaker senate "majority" and a nine seat advantage in the House (the best Biden got) and repeated supermajorities in both house and senate might actually have mattered.
Downballot effects being a thing, margins do, in fact, matter.
Downballot effects being a thing, margins do, in fact, matter.
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danjuno
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So you're telling me Biden did everything he could do with the powers invested in him as President, powers which are substantially larger than in FDR's time?
Evie
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And still considerably less than the power that result from a supermajority on your side in both house and senate.
(And no, I will not be answeing your impossible standard question)
(And no, I will not be answeing your impossible standard question)
danjuno
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Okay, so you're of the same opinion as Zard, then.
My point was that as President, Biden had certain options and did not necessarily choose to use all of them. Mentioning FDR was a matter of showing that it is possible to for an administration to survive in crisis.
My point was that as President, Biden had certain options and did not necessarily choose to use all of them. Mentioning FDR was a matter of showing that it is possible to for an administration to survive in crisis.
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amadeus
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I would say in the case of FDR though that 1936 was better relative to 1932. He won a landslide victory against Alf Landon.
As a fun presidential fact: Landon lived for another fifty years after his defeat. He never got to be president, but he did get to watch MTV.
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