What did I just read? Ayn Rand's Philosophy.

Then why have I never found an Objectivist who is critical of the works of the Holy Prophet Rand, Peace be Upon Her Name?

I humbly suggest that it is your criticism that is inferior to the task. If you want to be the first socialist to actually make a decent criticism of Ayn Rand, then be my guest. We would welcome it as an evolution of our knowledge :p
 
I humbly suggest that it is your criticism that is inferior to the task. If you want to be the first socialist to actually make a decent criticism of Ayn Rand, then be my guest. We would welcome it as an evolution of our knowledge :p

I'd answer this properly, but I'm too smart for anybody else to understand me. Let me point that out to you demonstratingly repeatingly and shove it in your face for a bit to make sure you understand I'm smarter. Because I'm smart. And right. Are you converted yet?
 
I'd answer this properly, but I'm too smart for anybody else to understand me. Let me point that out to you demonstratingly repeatingly and shove it in your face for a bit to make sure you understand I'm smarter. Because I'm smart. And right. Are you converted yet?

It's a question of knowledge, not intelligence. I am as intelligent as my Doctor, but that doesn't give me his medical knowledge. I could easily be smarter than him - but again, that doesn't equate to specific knowledge.

Therefore arguments between forms of knowledge are not resolved by one side pointing out that they lack knowledge of the subject but are "equally intelligent" as this equal intelligence is irrelevant.

So no, the fact that you are as intelligent as me does not add legitimacy to your critique of Objectivism, should you decide to make one.
 
Being smart can both mean being knowledgable and intelligent.

You, who know so much, should know that. :)

But I think you do know and you're just afraid to address my implicit point, which you most probably know what is as well.
 
Being smart can both mean being knowledgable and intelligent.

You, who know so much, should know that. :)

But I think you do know and you're just afraid to address my implicit point, which you most probably know what is as well.

Knowledgeable about what? No person is knowledgeable about everything - even smart and knowledgeable people are in fact ignorant about most subjects, blissfully unaware of 99.999% of the knowledge that is out there.

As for your point about Objectivists being intellectual snobs, take your sense of being offended, roll it in a pipe and smoke it.
 
Knowledgeable about what? No person is knowledgeable about everything - even smart and knowledgeable people are in fact ignorant about most subjects, blissfully unaware of 99.999% of the knowledge that is out there.

As for your point about Objectivists being intellectual snobs, take your sense of being offended, roll it in a pipe and smoke it.

You're still not answering the point I prompted to you. It makes you look silly dear.
 
Confirming that I have never met a person who understood Rand's philosophy who disagreed with it.
Given that you could say much the same thing about Scientology, I'm not entirely sure what this is supposed to prove.
 
It didn't work in Rand's fantasy World either, so spare us your redundant insights.

It's only redundant because it's worth repeating. I don't see why anyone should get so obsessed over such a poor philosophy as Objectivism.
 
I humbly suggest that it is your criticism that is inferior to the task. If you want to be the first socialist to actually make a decent criticism of Ayn Rand, then be my guest. We would welcome it as an evolution of our knowledge :p

Well, it's not exactly in my rational self-interest to do so. I'd consider it if I was paid.
 
Confirming that I have never met a person who understood Rand's philosophy who disagreed with it.
It is not difficult at all to understand. Many 15-year-old boys have no problem whatsoever when they adopt it as their own philosophy for a few years. Or are you claiming they also don't really understand it either?
 
And it is always boys, isn't it? Same with Stalinists. Something about frustrated adolescent machismo and self-important joke-ideologies that go together, I suppose.
 
Well, she might be a joke of a philosopher, but Atlas Shrugged is an amazingly brilliant title for the book.
 
She's a lot better with book titles than with character names, that's for sure.
 
How much of this thread consists of Objectivists attacking others, compared to others attacking Objectivism?

You ask me to explain it - impossible really. You might as well ask me to explain mathematics. Either a person is willing to learn something and perform the effort involved, or else they must content themselves to remain ignorant on that particular subject and put their knowledge into something else.



We're all willing to learn it, so long as you can demonstrate some value to it.
 
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

http://www.samefacts.com/2009/09/uncategorized/8530/
 
It's only redundant because it's worth repeating. I don't see why anyone should get so obsessed over such a poor philosophy as Objectivism.

I don't understand it either - I guess socialist's are just born that way.

Cutlass said:
We're all willing to learn it, so long as you can demonstrate some value to it.

I could care less whether you learn it - you've got a mind of your own, work it out for yourself, live your own life etc etc.
 
And all the great social engineering achievements you have right now came from the right's philosophy. Good job!
 
The irony of an Ayn-rand supporter using the internet to espouse her ideals is ironic.
 
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