What has Bush done right?

[downtown]

Oh, I forgot about Dubai too. I agreed with him there

 

[GenMarshall]

Oh, I forgot about Dubai too. I agreed with him there

I had no options about the Duabi deal, other than that it would cause a more transport of smuggled terrorists into our nation.

 

[downtown]

um...i'm not really sure what you're saying there civg...

 

[Atlas14]

-Removal of Taliban
-Removal of Saddam/Not pulling out of Iraq too soon at the insistance of the Dems
- Approved somewhat of his Social Security plan
- liked his focus on Nuclear Power
- Tax cuts

 

[blackheart]

I had no options about the Duabi deal, other than that it would cause a more transport of smuggled terrorists into our nation.

Arabic company = automatic terrorist support?

 

[GenMarshall]

Arabic company = automatic terrorist support?

Some how that is how I see it. I dont wish to see terrorists walking in a country that I live in that would endanger my life. Mind you, I am still scared of terrorism.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

My first mod warning!

In all seriousness, there is no way we can judge him as the worst president, not with 2 years left in his term. He could end up doing great, or becoming a tyrant, but it is too soon to tell. In fact, to get a good reading we would have to wait a decade or so to see the consequences of what he did.

 

[Tenochtitlan]

Some how that is how I see it. I dont wish to see terrorists walking in a country that I live in that would endanger my life. Mind you, I am still scared of terrorism.

That's called racism

or

Wow, fearmongering really works

 

[The Yankee]

Perhaps you should learn how to spell.

The spelling police aren't supposed to be on call here. Could be a typo or just a word difficult to spell.

Anyway, I would say that the situation with North Korea has been about as best as could be done. Perhaps the credit should go to Powell and Rice so far, but it's still a team effort.

With that said, Rice seems to have been a good decision for State. Especially now that State has more influence within the administration and is a nice coolant.

 

[The Yankee]

Some how that is how I see it. I dont wish to see terrorists walking in a country that I live in that would endanger my life. Mind you, I am still scared of terrorism.

When did dockworkers become terrorists? It would have been likely that they would have retained whomever employees were there already, since they bought out the British company that was controlling operations at those ports.

 

[bhsup]

He's been faithful to his wife, which indicates a level of moral backbone that the White House was seriously lacking. I mean, if a man cannot be trusted to keep the most sacred vows he'll ever take, how can he be trusted to hold true to his oath of office? (rhetorical...as Kingjoshi said, let's not debate the answers here)

While obvious mistakes have been made in execution, I absolutely support his decision to invade Afghanistan as well as his decision to invade Iraq.

Holding the line against UN encroachment upon our sovereignity. I'd like to see him chuck the UN out of the country, but as that's not realistic, I think he's doing a great job of just ignoring it when he can.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

What policies and actions do you agree with that President Bush has implemented/followed?

Please, very limited to no arguments about it. Each issue can possibly have their own thread. If your answer is 'nothing', then please don't bother posting in this thread.

The only thing I can think of that Bush did right was establish the department of homeland security in an attempt to unify the divergent intelligence agencies into one apparatus. It appears to have been fairly successful, in that we haven't been attacked since. Notice how it is rarely criticized even by the Democratic party.

 

[Irish Caesar]

The only thing I can think of that Bush did right was establish the department of homeland security in an attempt to unify the divergent intelligence agencies into one apparatus. It appears to have been fairly successful, in that we haven't been attacked since. Notice how it is rarely criticized even by the Democratic party.

Someone supports the creation of the Department of Homeland Security?

 

[The Yankee]

The only thing I can think of that Bush did right was establish the department of homeland security in an attempt to unify the divergent intelligence agencies into one apparatus. It appears to have been fairly successful, in that we haven't been attacked since. Notice how it is rarely criticized even by the Democratic party.

I think it's because it was originally a Democrat idea. It's execution leaves a lot to be desired, however....

 

[capslock]

Lots of us stand up to terrorists, so I think that's a shared trait not exclusive to the President.

It doesn't count if you sit right back down, a la the Democrats.
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[HawkeyeGS]

Umm well laughing at him is more applicable than other presidents. How did this threat rach 2 pages??

 

[Rambuchan]

You guys are really scraping the barrel here. At least the spam was coming up with something. If you're having to cite the fact that Bush hasn't split up with his wife, then you know you're searching in the dark and struggling. For example, Clinton is still with his wife...

That's called racism

or

Wow, fearmongering really works

Of course fear mongering works. It works shockingly well and has been for nearly 100 years in its current form. That's because the media has come right out of the propaganda models of the 1910-20s, which were specifically designed to whip up a fearful frenzy. In fact, it was the British who pioneered it like this, and American intellectuals were the recipients / victims of their propaganda. It got you into the First World War no less.

Spoiler More on that :

The first World War was the first time there was highly organized state propaganda. The British had a Ministry of Information, and they really needed it because they had to get the U.S. into the war or else they were in bad trouble. The Ministry of Information was mainly geared to sending propaganda, including huge fabrications about "Hun" atrocities, and so on. They were targeting American intellectuals on the reasonable assumption that these are the people who are most gullible and most likely to believe propaganda. They are also the ones that disseminate it through their own system. So it was mostly geared to American intellectuals and it worked very well. The British Ministry of Information documents (a lot have been released) show their goal was, as they put it, to control the thought of the entire world, a minor goal, but mainly the U.S. They didn’t care much what people thought in India. This Ministry of Information was extremely successful in deluding hot shot American intellectuals into accepting British propaganda fabrications. They were very proud of that. Properly so, it saved their lives. They would have lost the first World War otherwise.

In the U.S., there was a counterpart. Woodrow Wilson was elected in 1916 on an anti-war platform. The U.S. was a very pacifist country. It has always been. People don’t want to go fight foreign wars. The country was very much opposed to the first World War and Wilson was, in fact, elected on an anti-war position. "Peace without victory" was the slogan. But he was intending to go to war. So the question was, how do you get the pacifist population to become raving anti-German lunatics so they want to go kill all the Germans? That requires propaganda. So they set up the first and really only major state propaganda agency in U.S. history. The Committee on Public Information it was called (nice Orwellian title), called also the Creel Commission. The guy who ran it was named Creel. The task of this commission was to propagandize the population into a jingoist hysteria. It worked incredibly well. Within a few months there was a raving war hysteria and the U.S. was able to go to war.

http://www.zmag.org/zmag/articles/chomoct97.htm

I mention this because, if you were so inclined, you'd be praising Bush for his heightened influence in this sphere. Just as Tony Blair would be patting himself on the back for the same.

 

[Stylesjl]

Some how that is how I see it. I dont wish to see terrorists walking in a country that I live in that would endanger my life. Mind you, I am still scared of terrorism.

You are more likely to be mugged, shot, have your wallet stolen, have a car crash, and all kinds of other things then be blasted by terrorists

The company that wanted to buy the ports was part of a country that was an ally of the united states. If anything having that country buy the ports is much better to stop terrorism because it won't isolate the middle east as much and create more angry terrorists that threaten your life

 

[Bozo Erectus]

The company that wanted to buy the ports was part of a country that was an ally of the united states. If anything having that country buy the ports is much better to stop terrorism because it won't isolate the middle east as much and create more angry terrorists that threaten your life

What most people have difficulty understanding, including many high priced talking heads in and out of government, is that the root cause of terrorism isnt that the Middle East feels isolated from the West, on the contrary, the reason is far too much integration with the West, and influence from it on their societies. What will reduce terrorism is less Western involvement in the ME, and vica versa, not more.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

Someone supports the creation of the Department of Homeland Security?

Did you have a better idea?