What has Bush done right?

[Neonanocyborgasm]

I think it's because it was originally a Democrat idea. It's execution leaves a lot to be desired, however....

It's a rearrangement of an entrenched bureaucracy, so execution is going to be difficult. However, it seems to have worked in that there are no further attacks on US soil.

 

[Dann]

It's a rearrangement of an entrenched bureaucracy, so execution is going to be difficult. However, it seems to have worked in that there are no further attacks on US soil.

Somebody finally said it.

There's another thing. It may be Macchiavellian and not the epitome of goodness, but taking the fight to the Middle East (along with upping security and propaganda at home) worked wonders. Al-Qaeda and the Islamic militants now have no choice but to "defend" their homeland. Thus no more attacks in US territory since 2001.

This, Bush and company have done right.

 

[bhsup]

You guys are really scraping the barrel here. At least the spam was coming up with something. If you're having to cite the fact that Bush hasn't split up with his wife, then you know you're searching in the dark and struggling. For example, Clinton is still with his wife...

You may not consider marital fidelity important in a leader. I do. A man who would cheat on his wife cannot be trusted, period. If he would betray his wife, he'd betray his country.

 

[Rambuchan]

You may not consider marital fidelity important in a leader. I do. A man who would cheat on his wife cannot be trusted, period. If he would betray his wife, he'd betray his country.

Talk about judging a crook by his lover!

Plenty more telling things to judge a prez by. And the other point is that it's not such a great achievement, hardly worth writing home about. He stayed with his wife while wrecking the country and vandalising a few others? Great!

 

[Azale]

Isnt this thread for saying what Bush has done right, Rambuchan? Post SOMETHING positive, even its sarcastic

I have a list, I like GWB so sue me:

1. Invasion of Afghanistan

2. Deposing of Saddam Hussein (finally)

3. North Korea Policy

4. Supreme Court nominees

5. Peace efforts in Palestine

Running out of time....if this thread is still alive when I get back, Ill elaborate.

 

[Rambuchan]

Isnt this thread for saying what Bush has done right, Rambuchan? Post SOMETHING positive, even its sarcastic

I've already posted about his use of the media but no one seems to be interested in that.

It's a big one and you're walking right by it. Bush has done one big thing 'right' - he's made Americans think what he wants them to think with startling efficiency and success. I'd say the fact my 'positive' input has been ignored is a nice vindication of the point.

 

[capslock]

Talk about judging a crook by his lover!

Plenty more telling things to judge a prez by. And the other point is that it's not such a great achievement, hardly worth writing home about. He stayed with his wife while wrecking the country and vandalising a few others? Great!

No offense, but you're pretty much why Americans hate Europeans. You really come off as a snotty ass hole.

And Bush has hardly wrecked this country. If he has, I sure haven't noticed, and I've been living here. And oh yeah, I can be proud because my country didn't lie down before thrid world dictators trying to kick us around. He defeated two enemies, not "vandalised a few others". Nice troll.
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[Rambuchan]

No offense, but you're pretty much why Americans hate Europeans. You really come off as a snotty ass hole.

No offense, but you really come off as some prat who's been totally brainwashed into thinking who their enemies are.

When you mean to cause no offense, why go ahead and insult someone?
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[JohnRM]

What policies and actions do you agree with that President Bush has implemented/followed?

Please, very limited to no arguments about it. Each issue can possibly have their own thread. If your answer is 'nothing', then please don't bother posting in this thread.

Alliance with India

 

[Bozo Erectus]

1. Invasion of Afghanistan

Yep and just about the only people who benefited from it were opium growers and heroin traffickers. The Taliban was better at maintianing law and order in the society than the US and Nato.

2. Deposing of Saddam Hussein (finally)

The only people who benefitted from it were Haliburton and various other megacorporations with close ties to the Bush family, and the Republican party.

3. North Korea Policy

What policy? How can doing nothing be a policy?

4. Supreme Court nominees

Yep, soon we'll be back to the good old days, when women didnt have the vote, or the right to choose an abortion, and legal segregation was the law of the land.

5. Peace efforts in Palestine

On this one I agree. The rolling out of his new buzz phrase: "Road Map For Peace" was a stroke of genius. It was a hit. Within weeks it was #1 on the Diplo-Speak charts. All politicians had to do henceforth was say "Road Map For Peace" in front of a microphone, and people would think they were doing something.

One out of five aint bad.

 

[capslock]

No offense, but you really come off as some prat who's been totally brainwashed into thinking who their enemies are.

When you mean to cause no offense, why go ahead and insult someone?

Yeah, I'm brainwashed Nice argument, exactly what I expected.

I wasn't trying to insult you, I was giving you some feedback. Its not always nice. Obviously you enjoy reveling in your liberal fantasy world, far removed from reality, I'm sorry to snap you back. This is a very liberal friendly forum, you are surrounded by yes men who lick anyone's balls who hates Bush/America/Republicans/conservitives/the religious/etc. I am a moderate-republican and its insulting to read some of the bullfeathers you guys post, and I try to counter it occasionally. Bush hasn't wrecked America by any stretch of the word, and you know it. The taliban and Saddam were our enemies, there is no question about that. What sort of real threat they posed, and whether we should have gone to war or not, is up for debate, but they were enemies.

I'm curious to know who the real enemy is though, since I've been brainwashed. Lemme guess, its Bush and the Republican party? Do I get my cookie now?

 

[Bozo Erectus]

I'm curious to know who the real enemy is though, since I've been brainwashed. Lemme guess, its Bush and the Republican party? Do I get my cookie now?

More likely a ban. Im surprised Bush didnt hire you to be the new White House spokesperson, instead of that Fox guy.

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[capslock]

Yep, soon we'll be back to the good old days, when women didnt have the vote, or the right to choose an abortion, and legal segregation was the law of the land.

Well, its better than heading toward a day when the law mandates 100% women leadership, free baby killing for all women who need it, and forced segregation, even on the family level (2 white parents with white kids, that is discrimination!).

Because, obviously, thats where the Democrats want to take us.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Has anyone on the Supreme Court actually tried to take away woman's suffrage and bring back segregation, or is that empty rhetoric?

 

[bhsup]

Hey Ram, just for the record, I vehemently disagree with your opinion regarding the infidelity, but I don't think you're a snotty <naughty word>. Oh, and you have great babe thread posts.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Its just rhetoric but its not empty.

 

[joycem10]

Has anyone on the Supreme Court actually tried to take away woman's suffrage and bring back segregation, or is that empty rhetoric?

Im pretty sure the only person who advocates that is Louis Farrakan.

My biggest agreement with Bush, and its major for me, is the child care credit. Im sure none to very few of you care, but daycare is unbelievably expensive. Getting some of it back as a tax credit helps out alot.

 

[capslock]

More likely a ban. Im surprised Bush didnt hire you to be the new White House spokesperson, instead of that Fox guy.

I give up. I signed up for Barbara Striesands free brain clearing seminar this weekend. Tim Robbins is the special guest speaker. I'll be back next week with blatant overexageration, childish, troll posts about Bush and everyone who voted for him.

 

[Timko]

And oh yeah, I can be proud because my country didn't lie down before thrid world dictators trying to kick us around.

Yeah, those lousy third world countries are always pushing the US around, forcing the US to jump through hoops, or else they'll invade.

What Bush did right -> he didn't really do much for the religious right, just gave them empty gestures.

 

[Rambuchan]

Yeah, I'm brainwashed Nice argument, exactly what I expected.

Actually I post a fair bit on here about brainwashing techniques. Problem is, no one seems to give a damn. Here's a post I put together with you in mind, so that there is some substance. I look forward to your feedback on it.

I wasn't trying to insult you, I was giving you some feedback. Its not always nice. Obviously you enjoy reveling in your liberal fantasy world, far removed from reality, I'm sorry to snap you back. This is a very liberal friendly forum, you are surrounded by yes men who lick anyone's balls who hates Bush/America/Republicans/conservitives/the religious/etc. I am a moderate-republican and its insulting to read some of the bullfeathers you guys post, and I try to counter it occasionally. Bush hasn't wrecked America by any stretch of the word, and you know it.

Wrecked was indeed a reckless phrase. But there's no smoke without fire. I'm thinking of:

- Heavy, uncharacteristic, Government Spending
- Human Rights Scandals, knocking onto allies' loyalty
- Budget Deficits in all kinds of directions
- Debt Ceilings like never before
- Marred Public Relations around the world
- Embroiling the country in unwinnable wars
- More.

He may not have wrecked the country but he's certainly dishevelled it to a much greater extent than when he received it. (Now do you see why his marital fidelity is such a poor measure?)

The taliban and Saddam were our enemies, there is no question about that. What sort of real threat they posed, and whether we should have gone to war or not, is up for debate, but they were enemies.

Your memory is short here. They were your friends in the 80s. You were happy about that right?

So now you're suddenly happy for those same friends to become your enemies?

You changed your own mind so quickly?

That, to me, is brainwashing in action at worst, as detailed in the post I linked to above, and very fickle at best.

I'm curious to know who the real enemy is though, since I've been brainwashed. Lemme guess, its Bush and the Republican party? Do I get my cookie now?

I'm fresh out of cookie, the conservatives have been on a roll lately. Will this do?

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