Hmm, you'd think MobBoss would have taken a cue from all the other polls today, and mentioned "Only vote if you're an American." Oh well, hope the results aren't distorted. I place my hand over my heart; the only times I tend to hear the anthem anymore are at sporting events and like.
What is the proper etiquette to show respect for the flag?
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I thought flag represents the country.
By the way,whether you love your country or not,you should always show respect to your flag and national anthem.It doesn't matter if you approve movements of your government or not.
MobBoss
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Lots of non-americans here in the OT. I wouldnt want to exclude them, and am actually pretty happy with the poll. It seems most people do indeed show at least some type of respect to their flag. Thats refreshing actually.
It's just a symbol.
Of course, every time I have to respect a flag in public, I take it out on my baby flag at home.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Sometimes symbols have meaning.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
So if you don't follow it, you can be arrested and charged?
When's the last time that happened?
Unless it's a golden bull on Wall Street.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
flag burning = not putting your hand over your heart when the anthem plays?
Nah. You can't be punished for not following it. It is "advisory."
ParadigmShifter
Random Nonsense Generator
So it's bollocks then?
Ai Shizuka
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I'm a soldier, so I salute and sing the anthem. During the anthem, that is. I don't start singing when I'm walking somewhere and stumble upon a flag.
I don't even salute in that case. We don't have to.
I don't even salute in that case. We don't have to.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
So far, only 28% show the only form of respect you apparently think is correct, that is if the other person who claims to salute uses your same logic of only doing so when in uniform. Just as many simply stand there.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
What should happen is that anyone should be free to honour their country in whatever fashion they chose to, without getting told it is wrong. The important thing is the emotion, not the gesture. The only function the gesture has is show to others your respect. Whether one decides to do so, should be up to them. When someone disagrees with that, that's his or her problem.
In my view. I don't care for silly codes.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
No, that one has meaning too, just not what you think.
No, I dont presume to know what is correct for other countries, the US Code only applies to, well, the USA.
If the proper form of respect where you are from is simply standing up, then I applaud those that do that.
The way I look at the poll is only 39 percent show no respect at all.
Like I said, thats actually pretty encouraging for around here.
The question was merely based on their replies.
In some cases, absolutely, but in others, where the is indeed a proscribed etiquette, not so much.
Generally, a lack of a gesture is a sure indication of a lack of emotion. Those 'emotional' about it are usually the ones who take the effort to render proper respect.
No, I salute the flag when I am supposed to even if others are not watching. Not only am I supposed to do that, I feel its the appropriate thing to do as well.
I guess having an opinion is a problem then.
As long as you recognize your're not the sole arbiter of silly thats ok.
Lord Gay
Emperor
I don't go to sporting events or watch tv until 3 AM, so I can't remember the last time I've actually heard the national anthem. I think it was at a business seminar over ten years ago. Maybe.
I see the Pledge and flag respect as ostentatious forms of patriotism; I think they're showy ways of indicating you're a "real" patriot, with those who don't as "fake" countrymen. Obviously you need to salute a flag, put a bumper sticker on your car, or wear a little pin on your jacket to prove you deserve to be in your country. TBH, I'm not sure patriotism itself is all that great, given the apparent negativity it seems to foster in those who aren't patriotic enough. Why can't people just go about their lives?
I'm rather leery of people who wear their faith/ patriotism/ beliefs on their sleeves. It smacks to me of a touch of fanaticism and judgementalism, something I have had more than my fill of.
I love the values and ideals of the US, yet there are plenty of things I disagree with too. Maybe I'm just a contrary person by nature, and will refuse to do things I'm told to do, just because. I don't like being told I have to do this or that, or I'm supposed to do this or that. That's a sure way to get me to not do it.
Or maybe I'm tired of being told I'm not a real American.
I see the Pledge and flag respect as ostentatious forms of patriotism; I think they're showy ways of indicating you're a "real" patriot, with those who don't as "fake" countrymen. Obviously you need to salute a flag, put a bumper sticker on your car, or wear a little pin on your jacket to prove you deserve to be in your country. TBH, I'm not sure patriotism itself is all that great, given the apparent negativity it seems to foster in those who aren't patriotic enough. Why can't people just go about their lives?
I'm rather leery of people who wear their faith/ patriotism/ beliefs on their sleeves. It smacks to me of a touch of fanaticism and judgementalism, something I have had more than my fill of.
I love the values and ideals of the US, yet there are plenty of things I disagree with too. Maybe I'm just a contrary person by nature, and will refuse to do things I'm told to do, just because. I don't like being told I have to do this or that, or I'm supposed to do this or that. That's a sure way to get me to not do it.
Or maybe I'm tired of being told I'm not a real American.
I don't think civilians need to put their hand/hat over their heart during the anthem. Just face the flag, stand still and don't goof off, IMO is respect enough. I'd stand at a modified POA in civvies, like at a game. In uniform, I obviously salute.
Our regiment plays the National Anthem every morning for morning colors. On fridays, we also get the Marine's Hymn and Anchors Away. God help you if you get stuck outside at 0800 on Friday.
Our regiment plays the National Anthem every morning for morning colors. On fridays, we also get the Marine's Hymn and Anchors Away. God help you if you get stuck outside at 0800 on Friday.
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