Berzerker
Deity
Why would I genuinely oppose invading Iran 'at the moment and in principle' if my motive was enriching the military industrial complex?
I don't remember you supporting any recent wars, so I wonder why he would think you would change your mind and rationalize it.
America is addicted to war. Trump is trying to quit, but he is unable to.
Even claiming Trump is trying to get us out is not the same as supporting those wars. Even supporting Trump on certain issues is not the same as supporting war.
I won't comment on your last statement since it hasn't happened yet, so still speculation.
I think praising trump's foreign policy is just misguided and not a support for war since he hasn't gotten us into any full blown wars (yet)
And he has even stated that if that happens he won't support his foreign policy anymore.
He posts more than enough other stuff that deserves your wrath. No need to add on other items that are just speculation.
He supports the wars Donald Trump is waging in the middle-east, and offers the Orwellian rationalization that Trump is "trying to get us out" of those wars, which is simply not true. There is no reason to suppose that this willingness to ignore reality and engage in Orwellian rationalization will stop if Trump invades Iran.
He should stop hanging around with other addicts like Pompeo and Bolton then.
I think praising trump's foreign policy is just misguided and not a support for war since he hasn't gotten us into any full blown wars (yet)
And he has even stated that if that happens he won't support his foreign policy anymore.
He posts more than enough other stuff that deserves your wrath. No need to add on other items that are just speculation.
Misguided as in the belief that NK is negotiating in good faith, and stuff like that. As much as I think that Trump is a deluded and awful at diplomacy and think his bullying will not end well, still no hot wars started (yet) so I have to at least give him credit for that.
Good cop, bad cop... Trump didn't have someone to play the bad cop earlier so he had to play both with NK. I think thats when he hired them to play the bad cop. NK will be the tough one to settle, nothing short of us leaving and NK keeping nukes will end with a peace treaty. Thats fine by me.
Furthermore, Trump didn't invade the Middle East so that is not analogous to invading Iran, that would be his war alone, all by himself. And thats when (some) Democrats get upset by war, when they're started by Republicans. I was glad Obama left Iraq in 2011, but he started feeding a civil war in Syria and had to go back in when all hell broke loose...again. Trump got stuck with that mess and he's trying to get us out, it would be nice if Democrats got on board the peace train. But nope, cant agree with anything Trump does. Reminds me of the Republicans doing the same thing to Obama.
I dont blame Presidents for wars they inherit.
I applauded leaving Syria, what did you do?
Furthermore, Trump didn't invade the Middle East so that is not analogous to invading Iran, that would be his war alone, all by himself.
Seems to be more a case of bad cop, even worse cop. Then when it turns out nobody believes in his "evidence" he backs down saying he'll let Iran off with a warning this time.
It never ends. We've flipped from one party to the next and back again over the span of well over a decade...and somehow what actually goes on doesn't seem to change that much. Just who is complaining changes.
Which is kinda dumb because they all can choose whether to keep them going or not (I suppose unless it was a Congressionally declared war, but we haven't had any of those in a while). You keep repeating that Trump is "trying to get us out" which has no basis in fact whatever. And that is why I think you'd likely support it if Trump invaded Iran. Your current opinions on Trump's foreign policy have no factual basis, and there's no reason to suppose that would suddenly change if Trump invaded Iran.
As you know perfectly well, I remarked on the irony that the only good thing Trump had proposed doing was the thing unanimously denounced by the entire US political establishment.
Of course, since it quickly became perfectly clear that Trump never had any intention of pulling of out Syria I'm not sure why you're bringing it up like it means anything.
So, you'd apply this same logic to the Iraq War then presumably? Bush's war, all by himself? (answer: no, that one was Hillary's fault)
FTFYIts bad cop when Trump is trying to get someone to the table, once they show up the clown sits down.
Its bad cop when Trump is trying to get someone to the table, once they show up the good cop sits down.
And that, alone, is inadequate. With NK and Iran you are talking armament. Do you think a deal with the North Korean regime that achieves nuclear disarmament is possible with any negotiator? I think things would at least seem to have to change in NK. I'm guessing Iran is strong enough that things are going/have gone that way as well. Do you think there is anything the rest of the world could offer the PRC that would tempt the government to stop planning on developing its military first to parity and then almost certainly supremacy over any other available opposing force?