What party are you for? (US)

[napoleon526]

It's nice to see that we have a pretty even split.

BTW, who came up with the 'equal taxes' strangeness? It could not have been a democrat. We like to tax the $hit out if rich people. The only reason we don't do it more is that every American dreams of one day being fabulously wealthy, so we're reluctant to do so.

Just as long as there aren't any Libertarians here, or even (gasp) members of the Reform party.

 

[Becka]

I voted republican.

 

[sonorakitch]

Napoleon,

You can find the equal taxes lingo at www.democrats.org

It says something like "You pay equal taxes. Demand equal pay!".

~Chris

 

[Simon Darkshade]

If there is a choice only of the two, as there is effectively here, then make mine Republican.

 

[Fez_Monk]

I voted for the anarchist option, although that isn't quite accurate. I'm more of a left leaning libertarian minarchist.

 

[Franklyn]

Let's see... I've voted against Jesse Helms, Rudy Giuliani, George Bush Sr. and Dubya twice (US prez, Texas governor). Guess that makes me a Democrat by default.

 

[Zarn]

I know someone mentioned it, but I don't know who. I think Democrats do make a good balance, but I am still into my own party.

 

[oryx]

What, no Bull Moose Party? It's an outrage that wasn't listed as an option.

 

[NY Hoya]

Originally posted by oryx
What, no Bull Moose Party? It's an outrage that wasn't listed as an option.

i wasn't aware that the bull moose had any popularity outside of rhode island...

 

[Zachriel]

What if Ronald Reagan, could have had four terms?
- 'Imagine (There's No Liberals)

Then Bill Clinton could have served for four terms. (Scared ya, didn't I?)

 

[Fez_Monk]

Originally posted by monk
I voted for the anarchist option, although that isn't quite accurate. I'm more of a left leaning libertarian minarchist.

Actually, since that sentence didn't really tell you what party I'm for, I will explain: I take influences from many different,sometimes opposing, viewpoints/beliefs/people etc. I am influenced mainly by the ideas of voluntary socialism[Mikhail Bakunin], free market anarchism[Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Lysander Spooner], guild socialism[similar to anarcho syndicalism], and a host of other movements/beliefs/people etc. This may seem contradictory, but I take bits and pieces of this and that and combine them to form the thing known as my political beliefs. But to answer your question, there is no way in hell that I would find a political party whose platform I completly agree with. I identify most with the Libertarians[sorry to upset the great balance, napoleon526], so I really should have voted ''other''[I know I'm stupid]. I'm tired of explaining this so if you want to know more about my politics then PM or email me.

 

[allan2]

"Heck, I'm almost libertarian. There are some I'd actually vote for if I thought they had a chance in heck of being elected."

I wonder how many other voters say the exact same thing.... In many online forums and such, libertarians seem to have a much larger percentage than their election numbers would indicate. If they all actually put aside their fears of a "wasted vote" (what really IS a wasted vote, if not a vote for a party that's only second best to your beliefs at best?), we may actually put some tremors into those powermongers we loathe....

I agree though that our party needs to get more active convincing the people. Of course, our party's (principled) refusal to take government money, and our lack of corporate contributions (the corporations don't want to give up their special perks from government either), make things a bit more difficult. But all it really takes to win is a good idea (which we have), and courage of the people to stand up for it. Great movements have started with less....

So screw the polls, screw the crowd--vote your heart! I do.... Libertarian--the only party I CAN vote for in good conscience....

 

[CornMaster]

I am a Communist.

However...with the limited options of the poll...I would have to say Democrat.

Although most American parties are corrupted by either personal agenda or corporate influence, I really have no choice as the American people are a bunch of brainless peons who are feed what to believe, and don't use their minds to envision the infinite possibilities of humanity.

Of course...that just makes me sound crazy.

 

[Apollo]

Originally posted by CornMaster
Although most American parties are corrupted by either personal agenda or corporate influence, I really have no choice as the American people are a bunch of brainless peons who are feed what to believe, and don't use their minds to envision the infinite possibilities of humanity.

Of course...that just makes me sound crazy.

In that case, I'm crazy too.

"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once." -Albert Einstein

 

[Jeff Yu]

Why only four options? I'm not a member of any political party, but I'm not an anarchist, either. I'm independent, and I'll vote for whoever I think will do the best job. (Though right now, I'm favoring the Democrats more)

 

[Fez_Monk]

Originally posted by allan2
"Heck, I'm almost libertarian. There are some I'd actually vote for if I thought they had a chance in heck of being elected."

I wonder how many other voters say the exact same thing.... In many online forums and such, libertarians seem to have a much larger percentage than their election numbers would indicate. If they all actually put aside their fears of a "wasted vote" (what really IS a wasted vote, if not a vote for a party that's only second best to your beliefs at best?), we may actually put some tremors into those powermongers we loathe....

I agree though that our party needs to get more active convincing the people. Of course, our party's (principled) refusal to take government money, and our lack of corporate contributions (the corporations don't want to give up their special perks from government either), make things a bit more difficult. But all it really takes to win is a good idea (which we have), and courage of the people to stand up for it. Great movements have started with less....

So screw the polls, screw the crowd--vote your heart! I do.... Libertarian--the only party I CAN vote for in good conscience....

There is a small Republican libertarian group that believes Libertarian candidates have a better chance of getting into office if they vote Republican. I think that if we[Libertarians] stayed in one party, we would have a much better chance of making progress.

 

[Greadius]

Originally posted by allan2
I wonder how many other voters say the exact same thing...

5, maybe 6. I take part in voter registration drives quite frequently, people are rarely interested in the 'others'
Funny thing is that the people who complain the loudest about a lack of options vote or are even registered. They want other people to change the system for them.
Of course they'd complain about it then too.

Originally posted by allan2
If they all actually put aside their fears of a "wasted vote" (what really IS a wasted vote, if not a vote for a party that's only second best to your beliefs at best?), we may actually put some tremors into those powermongers we loathe...

You already do. If you follow primaries, especially Republican primaries, the libertarian wing is a very important part to get a vote from.
Of course, if their issues ever get truly popular the parties will latch on to them.

Originally posted by allan2
So screw the polls, screw the crowd--vote your heart! I do.... Libertarian--the only party I CAN vote for in good conscience....

American politics was designed to force a compromise. You want compromise, your politics will pay the price. You can't shun the vast majority of political minded people and hope your personal crusade will eventually cause them to change their mind...

Originally posted by CornMaster
I am a Communist.
However...with the limited options of the poll...I would have to say Democrat.

Why? You give us a bad name. There is a Socialist Party of Florida, join that

Originally posted by CornMaster
Although most American parties are corrupted by either personal agenda or corporate influence

Personal agenda? That is a bad thing...? Corrupting at that. If you were to attempt to enact your policies in office, wouldn't that be a personal agenda?
And the corporate influence forgets the fact that corperations are made of people, and politicians need to make a living when they're not in office. Corporations can't make a profit if people are getting screwed, but that is a different discussion.

Originally posted by CornMaster
I really have no choice as the American people are a bunch of brainless peons who are feed what to believe

Insult 300 million people. Many of whom are much more intelligent than you.

Originally posted by CornMaster
and don't use their minds to envision the infinite possibilities of humanity.

Translation: Don't agree with my worldview.

 

[CornMaster]

Originally posted by Greadius
Insult 300 million people. Many of whom are much more intelligent than you.

You can be intelligent...or smart...and still be a brainless peon. Who acts based on the status quo, and doesn't think of alternate possiblities.

Translation: Don't agree with my worldview.

Your being to black and white.

It's not that they don't agree with my system....it's that they agree with the current one. They ***** and complain about this system....but when new ones are proposed they defend the current one.

Anyway....not too important.

 

[allan2]

"You can't shun the vast majority of political minded people and hope your personal crusade will eventually cause them to change their mind..."

I don't "shun" anyone, I talk politics to all and sundry who want to discuss such things....

I think you may have misunderstood what I meant by "screw the crowd"--not meaning "people don't matter", but rather, addressing the mentality many people have that they have to go along with the crowd. I am convinced that a fair number of voters want to "vote for a winner", and so they pay undue attention to polls and such. Polls seem to become a massive vehicle of unconscious peer pressure, in this way....

You know the Sprite commercials that say "image is nothing, obey your thirst"? While I do not like Sprite personally (and therefore "obey my thirst" by NOT drinking it, lol), I kind of have a philosophy similar to that--I go with what I believe and what I want, even if it is very different from what most people want, or from what is hyped.

All I am saying is, I've heard MANY people express libertarian views, even some that actually RECOGNIZE that they are libertarians, and yet they express the same sentiment that I quoted in my last post--they would vote for the libertarian candidate IF they thought they had a chance of winning. Well, how the hell is he going to have a chance of winning if the people that agree with him DON'T vote for him? See how circular this is? Why not vote for him? If he most accurately articulates your views, then you should--NOT voting for the person who most accurately represents YOU is truly a wasted vote.

Hell, there was even a radio personality here in the cities who was a libertarian, even said he was, and said he favored libertarian candidates--and yet, last election, he said he was voting for Bush (!) because he was "afraid it would be too close an election". Well, first of all, Gore taking Minnesota was practically a given, so I don't know what he was worried about. But more importantly, how many others in his audience followed his example?

I honestly believe that, if all the people who have libertarian ideas actually VOTED libertarian, that party might garner between 10 and 20 percent of the vote at least--and THAT is where new MAJOR parties begin. Remember, the Dems and Repubs didn't always exist here either--they replaced older parties--and so it follows that they aren't necessarily permanent either.

 

[Fez_Monk]

[points to allan2] ,''Yeah, what he said!'' I totally agree with him. Except for the Sprite part. Sprite rocks!