What's the most important thing in the world?

[Lohrenswald]

Why? Money was created exactly for that purpose, when people formed bigger societies and had to start specializing and direct trading for goods became more and more difficult.

I'm not well versed enough to know for what reason money was created (maybe Dachs does), but you seem to be Adam Smithing it

But can you really not imagine any other way to make things work?

Something like... increasing the average prosperity of the members of the society.

Not what I think most people mean when they say progress, so there's that.

though it depends what you mean by prosperity

I know I'm stretching it hear, but I can imagine backsides to increasing material wealth, such as straining the ecological conditions and "creating degenerecy"

 

[Ryika]

But can you really not imagine any other way to make things work?

I can imagine a lot of ways, none of which are as efficient as having a universal currency.

Not what I think most people mean when they say progress, so there's that.

Seems like you're just to used to using it as a buzzword. I wasn't talking about "Social Progress" as used in "Progressivism", I was using the word as broad as it gets - "development towards an improved or more advanced condition."

I know I'm stretching it hear, but I can imagine backsides to increasing material wealth, such as straining the ecological conditions and "creating degenerecy"

Agreed. In a sense that's one of the modern problems, when is it "enough"? Out industry longs for infinite growth, but of course given the finite materials available infinite growth will have a tipping point where the average prosperity starts going downhill.

But that's once again a problem with mechanisms that add interests, not with money by itself.

 

[sophie]

At first I thought "oh great another necro thread to remind me off all the great posters we lost" and then I saw the date of the OP and I was like:

Welcome back Godwynn. Also for me? Finding personal happiness, but that's pretty cheesy innit?

 

[Godwynn]

You're all wrong. The second most important thing is more money.

At first I thought "oh great another necro thread to remind me off all the great posters we lost" and then I saw the date of the OP and I was like:

Welcome back Godwynn. Also for me? Finding personal happiness, but that's pretty cheesy innit?

I've never left. I'm always here. Silently watching and waiting.

Ball so hard.

 

[downtown]

The second most important thing would be cute pictures of my daughter, imo.

Third would be sweet, sweet, #Pageviews

 

[IglooDame]

But plumbing's not really necessary until you have relatively large numbers of people herded together in a small area.

Or until you've been camping for more than a long weekend.

 

[sophie]

The second most important thing would be cute pictures of my daughter, imo.

Third would be sweet, sweet, #Pageviews

[poop] all goes back to that cheddar doe

 

[Hygro]

You're wrong. It's money.

Get some.

What do you think is the second most important thing in the world?

Seconded.

You're all wrong. The second most important thing is more money.

I've never left. I'm always here. Silently watching and waiting.

Ball so hard.

Seconded.

 

[Lohrenswald]

Seconded.

Seconded.

U suk

 

[Daw]

Are there things of any importance and other than money?

Spoiler :

The most important thing (and also the second, the third, the fourth and the fifth ones) is Maslow's pyramid.

 

[Hygro]

U suk

Straight to the bank ha Ha ha hah haaa

Are there things of any importance and other than money?

Spoiler :

The most important thing (and also the second, the third, the fourth and the fifth ones) is Maslow's pyramid.

Maslow's Hierarchy of Green

GET MONEY

 

[Kyriakos]

Well, money (a bit, but not quite like gold before the invention of coins- for gold is ornamental as well) is not an object functioning without being a potential to replace it with other objects. In this it is having a special position. But by itself it is not giving you anything; only madmen feel happy observing money itself.

 

[Lohrenswald]

I agree with Kyriakos.
It's not money that matters, but having a place to live, food everyday, plumbing etc. that matters

 

[gay_Aleks]

Yes, that's usually bought with money.

 

[Lohrenswald]

does the money make the things, Tolni?

 

[gay_Aleks]

Unless you believe that the farmers who harvest the food work for nothing, that the pipes that give you water are made by unpaid workers, that buildings are built by illegal immigrants who don't want to be paid, essentially, yes. It does.

 

[Kyriakos]

Unless you believe that the farmers who harvest the food work for nothing, that the pipes that give you water are made by unpaid workers, that buildings are built by illegal immigrants who don't want to be paid, essentially, yes. It does.

Yet the prince of Kiev (or what that was) didn't ask money to give those varangians/druzhina to Basil II, so sometimes other stuff works as well. (like marrying off your sister, i suppose)

 

[gay_Aleks]

Varangians are now the most important things, more important than food/water/shelter?

Someone didn't send me the memo.

 

[Kyriakos]

Well they were sometimes. When you need to first not die and only after eat/drink/have shelter As in 1122 and Veroe.

 

[Daw]

Someone didn't send me the memo.

I did. Maslow's pyramid. The "safety" stuff.

Speaking about the money though, Soviet ruble comes to mind. Was it money?