What's wrong with being a drifter?

Nothing at all, I wish I could afford to drift more...
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What's wrong with being a drifter?
It's hard to a get a quality female in it for the long haul. Oh they fall for you in the short-term but most girls do not want a drifter for long & when the charm wears off you're alone.
 
It's hard to a get a quality female in it for the long haul. Oh they fall for you in the short-term but most girls do not want a drifter for long & when the charm wears off you're alone.

Drifter or not the important thing there is to portray yourself as what you are. When someone "falls for you in the short term, but..." it is because they fell for a portrayal that you are unable or unwilling to maintain.

My current girlfriend and I have been together for over ten years. When we met she was shocked that I came right out and told her "Provide you a home? Not a chance. For one thing you already are providing your own, and for another you would never want the kind of home I could live with as an acceptable minimum (tent, overpass, bed at the State Street Mission)." So she was able to honestly look at her societal norm that 'the man finds our cave' and choose whether she wanted to let that eliminate me as a potential partner. There was no element of 'he is down on his luck right now, but someday' to wear off or any other pretense, I just was what I was, and still am.
 
The materialistic culture of the west is less accepting of "drifter status" than other cultures because we focus on the accumulation of stuff and money.

Tim, if you are a drifter, how are you able to support your CFC "addiction"? Does your current overpass have free wifi? Or do you post from the library?

I guess my real question is: how do you characterize a "drifter"? What is permitted and what exclude you from that group?
 
The materialistic culture of the west is less accepting of "drifter status" than other cultures because we focus on the accumulation of stuff and money.

Tim, if you are a drifter, how are you able to support your CFC "addiction"? Does your current overpass have free wifi? Or do you post from the library?

I guess my real question is: how do you characterize a "drifter"? What is permitted and what exclude you from that group?

I post mostly from my girlfriends house, which is where I spend most of my time, though there are coffee houses of a well known brand with free wifi pretty much everywhere and I use those too. Also my mom is in a board and care that has wifi and I visit her often; and she naps a lot.

Characterization of a drifter, as applied to me:

I own nothing I don't either carry away with me or leave behind without concern for its possible loss. I owe no debts and I am owed none. While the internet has made me easy to contact and personal relationships put a fairly low limit on my number of likely locations, where I will be at any specific time is seldom if ever predictable until it arrives. When I work, I do a job and get paid for it. I don't 'sign on' for anything but the agreed task and when it is done so am I.

It should be noted that this does not carry any of that 'must move beyond the horizon/see a new place' demand that some may be thinking of. I don't consider being driven by wanderlust to be remotely the same condition which I have created for myself. One of my sons has that compulsion, and it seems no different from any other, though perhaps more difficult to attempt to satisfy than some.
 
I post mostly from my girlfriends house, which is where I spend most of my time, though there are coffee houses of a well known brand with free wifi pretty much everywhere and I use those too. Also my mom is in a board and care that has wifi and I visit her often; and she naps a lot.

Characterization of a drifter, as applied to me:

I own nothing I don't either carry away with me or leave behind without concern for its possible loss. I owe no debts and I am owed none. While the internet has made me easy to contact and personal relationships put a fairly low limit on my number of likely locations, where I will be at any specific time is seldom if ever predictable until it arrives. When I work, I do a job and get paid for it. I don't 'sign on' for anything but the agreed task and when it is done so am I.

It should be noted that this does not carry any of that 'must move beyond the horizon/see a new place' demand that some may be thinking of. I don't consider being driven by wanderlust to be remotely the same condition which I have created for myself. One of my sons has that compulsion, and it seems no different from any other, though perhaps more difficult to attempt to satisfy than some.
That is a pretty interesting low profile life style. You also clearly have a religious bent; how does that mix with your drifter life? Does religion drive it or result from it?
 
It's hard to a get a quality female in it for the long haul. Oh they fall for you in the short-term but most girls do not want a drifter for long & when the charm wears off you're alone.

So you drift from one woman to another . . . pretty much in line with your lifestyle.
 
Drifter or not the important thing there is to portray yourself as what you are. When someone "falls for you in the short term, but..." it is because they fell for a portrayal that you are unable or unwilling to maintain.

My current girlfriend and I have been together for over ten years. When we met she was shocked that I came right out and told her "Provide you a home? Not a chance. For one thing you already are providing your own, and for another you would never want the kind of home I could live with as an acceptable minimum (tent, overpass, bed at the State Street Mission)." So she was able to honestly look at her societal norm that 'the man finds our cave' and choose whether she wanted to let that eliminate me as a potential partner. There was no element of 'he is down on his luck right now, but someday' to wear off or any other pretense, I just was what I was, and still am.
I tend to keep it real from the start but most people have the illusion they can change others (I certainly did for most of my life).

So you drift from one woman to another . . . pretty much in line with your lifestyle.
I prefer to find one person who's solid. I'd be happy with that... as long as I could have a threesome here & there.
 
That is a pretty interesting low profile life style. You also clearly have a religious bent; how does that mix with your drifter life? Does religion drive it or result from it?

Religious bent? Most religious people think that I am bent. I would characterize myself as a god friendly Buddhist, which I suppose is religious but doesn't limit my options much. However, what you said about 'Western materialism' I agree with, and my adventures in mysticism through Yoga and study of Buddhism certainly helped get me free of that. I visit churches of various Christian denomination when the urge strikes me, because I like to sing, and I've attended with friends services of pretty much any faith that can be found in Southern California, which may well be all of them.
 
Religious bent? Most religious people think that I am bent. I would characterize myself as a god friendly Buddhist, which I suppose is religious but doesn't limit my options much. However, what you said about 'Western materialism' I agree with, and my adventures in mysticism through Yoga and study of Buddhism certainly helped get me free of that. I visit churches of various Christian denomination when the urge strikes me, because I like to sing, and I've attended with friends services of pretty much any faith that can be found in Southern California, which may well be all of them.
I did not suspect Buddhism. I had thought you were of some esoteric, mystical, Christian sect. What a pleasant surprise. I will read your posts with new eyes now. :)
 
I did not suspect Buddhism. I had thought you were of some esoteric, mystical, Christian sect. What a pleasant surprise. I will read your posts with new eyes now. :)

Well, study of Buddhism doesn't necessarily mean practicing Buddhism either, but I more know I'm a Buddhist than the average guy on the street in SoCal, definitely.
 
I like to sing as well.

Trouble is: nobody else likes me to sing. Though there was this one deaf old guy with Alzheimer's who used to like me to sing with him shortly before he died in hospital.

What we lacked in musicality we compensated with volume.
 
I like to sing as well.

Trouble is: nobody else likes me to sing. Though there was this one deaf guy old guy with Alzheimer's who used to like me to sing with him shortly before he died in hospital.

What we lacked in musicality we compensated with volume.

Me too :lol:
 
I like to sing as well.

Trouble is: nobody else likes me to sing. Though there was this one deaf old guy with Alzheimer's who used to like me to sing with him shortly before he died in hospital.

What we lacked in musicality we compensated with volume.

There are churches where they take "make a joyful noise unto the Lord" really seriously, and they expect you to sing whether you actually have any business singing or not. I like them. :)

They also frequently have donuts after the service. I like those too.
 
I've been meaning to visit all the churches, and their services, in my town for a long time. But I don't seem to have got round to it.

I was brought up in an Anglican household and regularly attended until I was about 15. So, I expect if I did go to churches again the same feelings that made me leave would just resurface. Principally that of "Do I really believe this stuff? No. I don't think I do."

I do, though, like the idea of community which churches fosters.
 
Churches do exert a certain power of exclusion upon the unbeliever, but I seem to suffer no ill effects from ignoring it. While I may not share their beliefs I don't find them particularly distasteful, so sitting in their gatherings is not unpleasant...as compared to a city council meeting, for instance, and I attend those sometimes as well.
 
There's quite a spread of denominations in my town (which is only small, ~ 30,000). Quaker, Baptist, Methodist, Anglican, Catholic, Jehovah's Witnesses, Charismatics, Spiritualist, United Reform, Salvation Army, Congregational, and even a Russian Orthodox (tucked away somewhere - or at least there was, it seems to have vanished from view).
 
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