Which ruleset do we focus on?

[Strider]

Pretty simple. Choose whichever ruleset you think we should focus on for work.

Faction Based
Civic Based
Traditional

Discussion Thread

This poll will run for 4 days.

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If you find that you can not vote because you do not belong to the democracy game group do the following.

Go to the "My Account" or "User CP" page.
Select "Groups" or "Group Membership" from the left navigation menu (near the bottom).
Locate the "Civ4 Democracy Game II: Citizens" group and select "join group"
A moderator will accept your request as soon as possible.

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Current Talley:
Faction based - 6 (4 poll, 2 stated)
Civic Based - 0
Traditional - 3 (3 Poll)

 

[croxis]

I did just that on feb 4th. I am still waiting

 

[Strider]

I did just that on feb 4th. I am still waiting

Yeah. Our three mods seem to be inactive. I sent a private chat message to CT last night asking about getting the User Group removed and no reply yet.

Also no reply PM from DaveShack/Rik from several weeks ago.

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In the mean time we will have to keep a running tally by post. So if everyone could voice which they support it would be welcome.

 

[Joe Harker]

So basically for anyone new to the demogame, please post your vote here if you don't get permission in time! (it is a public poll anyway so your vote can be seen anyway)


Mental note after re-reading above post

Should make sure to read the entire thread two times at least before making comments!

 

[croxis]

Ooooooooo Dave Returns!!!!

 

[Oni of Chaos]

Well I read the different things and I cast my vote for Faction

 

[Strider]

Current Talley:
Faction based - 6 (4 poll, 2 stated)
Civic Based - 0
Traditional - 3 (3 Poll)

 

[DaveShack]

User group updated. My turn to be the one smashed by RL.

 

[Octavian X]

I felt that I had to abstain from the poll. Not that I have anything against any sort of "non-traditional" system, of course - it's just a badly timed poll that will undoubtedly have a ridiculously low turnout, thus preventing any potential newcomers to the game from coming in and proposing their own systems. Rather than deciding right here and now, I say we close this poll and start a forum-wide advertising campaign to draw new players (and old ones too!) into the discussion toward designing a new system.

 

[Provolution]

Faction based is the only system that allows newcomers to have a real choice. Traditiional is no real choice, it is a choice of nostalgia and convention.

Civics would leave some choice too, too bad too few really understands it, or is willing to understand it (traditionalists dislike this the most).

Moderator Action: "Traditional bashing" seems like trolling to me, that will be enough.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[Joe Harker]

Civics would leave some choice too, too bad too few really understands it, or is willing to understand it (traditionalists dislike this the most).

The reason is, i suspect is it is a bit complicated, i certainly would be turn away as a newcomer and looking at the rules involed. The faction system is quite nice because it is a mixture of both the civic style system, while it allows people who like the good old days, to still come up with a old styled set of rules. Mind you i still think the old way of playing, with a few tweaks here and there, does still have some life in it, and is certainly the most simplest for any new comers (and me! ) to understand and take part in.

Most of all though i agree with Octavian X, so we should get those advertising
posts up as so as possible. (might be worth making a thread in the BTS forum as well, i will set one up a little later unless anyone objects)

 

[Strider]

I felt that I had to abstain from the poll. Not that I have anything against any sort of "non-traditional" system, of course - it's just a badly timed poll that will undoubtedly have a ridiculously low turnout, thus preventing any potential newcomers to the game from coming in and proposing their own systems. Rather than deciding right here and now, I say we close this poll and start a forum-wide advertising campaign to draw new players (and old ones too!) into the discussion toward designing a new system.

It's been done already. There have been forum announcements and main page notices posted.

Croxis and I have been actively campaigning for a while now.

 

[Joe Harker]

I am going to make a thread in the BTS forum.

 

[Strider]

Current Talley:
Faction based - 6 (5 poll, 1 stated)
Civic Based - 0
Traditional - 4 (4 Poll)
Abstain - 1 (1 Poll)

 

[Provolution]

It does not matter what we vote, Traditional always get their way by delaying tactics and wearing down.

 

[croxis]

Negative talk does not help redirect behaviour.

 

[Shattered]

It does not matter what we vote, Traditional always get their way by delaying tactics and wearing down.

Please realize that though I support your system, I am kinda put off by your negativity. If factions somehow don't get enough support, it still will be fun, albeit less in my opinion.

 

[Provolution]

Please realize that though I support your system, I am kinda put off by your negativity. If factions somehow don't get enough support, it still will be fun, albeit less in my opinion.

I just know how this pans out, I know these people, and they know how to make it their way. Just watch out how they intend to organize the Judiciary, then you are locked up.

 

[croxis]

Who said we were going to have a judiciary?

 

[Provolution]

You bet they will fight for the Judiciary, their game centers around it.