While We Wait: Writer's Block & Other Lame Excuses

[Azale]

We all blindingly back the wrong horse sometimes.

 

[Starlife]

Daft, Ron Paul will always be regarded as "that old, crazy fart" by the majority of Americans. It's absolutely absurd to advocate the end of "endless war", and actually mean it.

 

[Nylan]

Daft, Ron Paul will always be regarded as "that old, crazy fart" by the majority of Americans. It's absolutely absurd to advocate the end of "endless war", and actually mean it.

The majority of Americans are what got the country in exactly the mire that it is in. I didn't vote for Ron Paul, but referring to popular opinion is no way to prove his stances wrong.

 

[Starlife]

The majority of Americans are what got the country in exactly the mire that it is in. I didn't vote for Ron Paul, but referring to popular opinion is no way to prove his stances wrong.

I think you're missing my point, which is... exactly your own.

 

[merciary]

I don't believe that particular opinion is the one that most people consider him crazy for.

 

[Crezth]

WE NEED MOAR GOOOOOLD

id vote for daftpanzer

 

[Starlife]

1. That's a brilliant way to direct/end an inevitably stupid political conversation. 2. Nice avatar btw.

daft 2016

 

[erez87]

Daft is British...

 

[Angst]

Not for long...

 

[Lord_Iggy]

I am being serious. He's the one who called it as it is, the whole fake economy and military-industrial-corporate domination.

If your issue is that, then there are many far more sane people who've criticized the same things.

 

[Eltain]

Nah he be a SCOAT

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Is that a concussion-related thing? I have no idea what a SCOAT is, after preliminary googling.

 

[Daftpanzer]

Apologies, I was in a strange mood today and maybe was a bit childish.

I admit Ron Paul is ridiculously radical. But he also seems very brave and he makes a lot of good points IMO... I like people who promote personal empowerment. This is probably a discussion for OT, but I don't hang out there so I don't know

Anyway. I think we have a shot getting Iggy elected as Prime Minister of Canada, we can go from there!

 

[das]

Is that a concussion-related thing? I have no idea what a SCOAT is, after preliminary googling.

Scottish, presumably?

That's not really incompatible with being British, though.

 

[erez87]

Not for long...

Even then he can't be president

Apologies, I was in a strange mood today and maybe was a bit childish.

I admit Ron Paul is ridiculously radical. But he also seems very brave and he makes a lot of good points IMO... I like people who promote personal empowerment. This is probably a discussion for OT, but I don't hang out there so I don't know

Anyway. I think we have a shot getting Iggy elected as Prime Minister of Canada, we can go from there!

He isn't for personal empowerment. He is for corporate empowerment. "Small" government nonsense. He doesn't care about the personal stuff. In the republican meetings he says conservative cultural ideals, and then he goes to liberal cultural ideas.

Apparently he is also a racist, anti-Semitic, and homophobic.
"We all have the right to discriminate" - great personal empowerment stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul#Newsletters_controversy

 

[Daftpanzer]

FYI I was born in Blackpool, Lancashire, in the north west of England, but both my parents are from Scotland (Glasgow area) hence the Scots connection. I feel like such an attention ho' now

 

[TheLizardKing]

I love political discussions. Both sides have valid points, and I agree with all of them.

 

[Eltain]

Scoat = Scott. Vaguely referencing proposed Scottish independance from the UK.

Do you consider yourself English or Scottish then, Daft? Just curious.

 

[das]

I love political discussions. Both sides have valid points, and I agree with all of them.

That's certainly an interesting way to put it. That said political discussions are certainly more interesting to follow if you try and understand where both sides are coming from. The problem is that the different paradigms fueling many current debates are practically irreconcilable, which means that "discussions" as often as not just end up being monologues.

Personally though I'm finding I have an increasingly Bolshevik mentality when it comes to those things. Not in terms of my own politics - they are quite far from that - but in terms of viewing the most vocal proponents of different ideologies as useful idiots. This relates both to the way their ideologies serve various narrow social interests and to the possibilities for putting them to use to either help maintain the great balancing act of civil society as a whole, or to readjust it in certain directions. My point, I suppose, is that libertarians can have their uses.

This seems more entertaining and more enlightening than taking them (or the far left, or what have you) at face point, I feel.

 

[erez87]

I'm pretty sure mפst of the forum will be on the libertarian socially side of the scale, but we will probably be spread around the economic left and right.

Why don't you all take the http://www.politicalcompass.org test? I'm almost at the edge of the green
Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59