While We Wait: Writer's Block & Other Lame Excuses

[qoou]

EU3 is a better game.

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Higher income, but less obvious/striking

 

[Arrow Gamer]

You don't say?

It was made later, and has had four expansions. I'm pretty sure is going to be better.

 

[Luckymoose]

You don't say?

It was made later, and has had four expansions. I'm pretty sure is going to be better.

Never assume a game made later with more expansions is "better".

 

[Eltain]

Since we are posting these.

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Cores on all owned provinces except for Northumberland and all of the Leventine coast, excluding Alexandria. Not hard to do with BBB but I am proud. DON'T JUDGE ME.

Austria and (surprisingly) Portugal have been the most difficult enemies, in terms of war, in the past 100 years. Possibly due to allies, possibly due to the borders we normally fight on. Edit: Although 80% of the time I am allied with Austria.

 

[Nuka-sama]

Cool empire but man those borders XD

 

[Eltain]

What is wrong with the borders?

 

[Lord of Elves]

Eltain, is that Britain/England in exile in North and central America?

 

[Grandkhan]

Whats the light green thing in Colombia and Australia?

My guess is Parma. Is it Parma?

 

[Grandkhan]

Uruguay game is done.

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Finished 5th, which isn't too bad, I guess. Probably could have done better if I focused on prestige and commerce techs a little earlier, but eh.

My industry overview;

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And an interesting thing of note; 37% of my population are German. At some point I must have gotten this huge block of German immigrants all at once and after that they wouldn't assimilate into Platineans.

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[Daftpanzer]

EU3 is a better game.

That's an opinion. I personally love EU2, to me it is purer, more elegant, more realistic, more immersive, and has a beautiful interface and world map, and admittedly has a lot of nostalgia behind it. EU3 was to me rather clunky, full of immersion-breaking ridiculous game situations (much more than EU2 - have you seen any AAR that makes remotely any sense 100 years into the game?), and has a bloated resource-hogging 3D engine for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON leading to a world map that looks like some noob's first effort at painting with vectors.

EDIT: AGCEEP mod for EU2 is a must, however. Maybe mods and expansions fix a lot of things for EU3, but I don't care

EDIT: I also feel the same way about MTW and MTW2 - the sequel was enjoyable, but never as immersive to me as the original, which always survives on all my hard drives alongside EU2.

 

[Luckymoose]

That's an opinion. I personally love EU2, to me it is purer, more elegant, more realistic, more immersive, and has a beautiful interface and world map, and admittedly has a lot of nostalgia behind it. EU3 was to me rather clunky, full of immersion-breaking ridiculous game situations (much more than EU2 - have you seen any AAR that makes remotely any sense 100 years into the game?), and has a bloated resource-hogging 3D engine for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON leading to a world map that looks like some noob's first effort at painting with vectors.

EDIT: AGCEEP mod for EU2 is a must, however. Maybe mods and expansions fix a lot of things for EU3, but I don't care

EDIT: I also feel the same way about MTW and MTW2 - the sequel was enjoyable, but never as immersive to me as the original, which always survives on all my hard drives alongside EU2.

I think the difference here is that EU2 is event hardcoded and EU3 is not. Besides the fact that the game world is larger and the system is less of a board game. I never understood why you couldn't view military units in the political map mode. EU3 is not a resource hog by any stretch of the imagination. It may have been when it was first released, but the full game with all expansions is a beautiful experience that blows EU2 out of the water 10 times out of 10. EU4 is looking to be EVEN better.

 

[Crezth]

I am so bad at EU2 and EU3. And CK2. Vicky 2 is a different story but that game is ******** easy:

Spoiler Grossdeutschland :

Infamy is hilarious. Oh, you hate me, everybody? Tough biscuits.

 

[Grandkhan]

HOw did you possibly finish that? I would have just given up halfway through because I'd get so sick of the constant Badboy wars. Thats why I like Vicky. You can play countries which just sort of sit around and industrialise for 70 years straight. Its kind of relaxing.

 

[Eltain]

Yes, England is in exile in the West, and that light green guy is actually Brabant, a former vassal of mine.

 

[Daftpanzer]

I think the difference here is that EU2 is event hardcoded and EU3 is not. Besides the fact that the game world is larger and the system is less of a board game. I never understood why you couldn't view military units in the political map mode. EU3 is not a resource hog by any stretch of the imagination. It may have been when it was first released, but the full game with all expansions is a beautiful experience that blows EU2 out of the water 10 times out of 10. EU4 is looking to be EVEN better.

Since I already bought the 'Complete' edition, I'd also have to buy In Nomine and Divine Wind to get the full experience. Cheapest option seems to buy the Chronicles edition, but that still includes most of the game I already bought, so it feels like a waste. And then spend time learning all the new features, perhaps to discover I still don't like it

I'll wait another 10 years for EU4 to be 'complete' and then maybe give it a go

 

[Arrow Gamer]

I'll post my Hansa->Germany game once I finish.

 

[Crezth]

HOw did you possibly finish that? I would have just given up halfway through because I'd get so sick of the constant Badboy wars. Thats why I like Vicky. You can play countries which just sort of sit around and industrialise for 70 years straight. Its kind of relaxing.

That's how I played my Japan game. Close to the vest, no infamy. It was fun but with the Germany game I realized that not even the combined might of all of Europe could fell me after I hit the Three Hurrahs! event. Which makes a little bit of sense considering it's the populations of Austria-Hungary and Germany, plus all the ******** economy and military events you get just for being Germany. So whenever I went to war it was a matter of allocating my tremendous armies to the border while I carried on my business.

Russia learned its lesson early on, France needed some convincing after awhile.

It did start getting tedious a little bit into the 1900s, whereupon I forced myself to "just finish" the game. This was also when I decided that my goal through 1936 should be to conquer China. Now that was fun.

 

[Angst]

I deleted my screenshots recently, but this is a D&T EU3 game. Went Denmark -> Scandinavia, conquered North Germany, started colonizing Africa, then suddently got entwined into German politics (Due to conquering North Germany) and started going for Emperor due to the infamy/vassal issues, vassalized all of Germany/conquered the Netherlands and then formed the HRE and became the world's most dominant power with the greatest economy and second in territory only to Russia.. Currently working on destroying France (I hate France, go Daft etc)/prettifying the western borders and conquering Indian territory which is much, much harder than in vanilla EU, Indians being capable and rich.

Anyways, current goals: Unify Africa (Screw you Naples! Seriously, they've been on my back the whole game...), prettify/straighten up European borders, conquer the rest of Australia kicking Spain out of New Zealand, earn proper entry into India, and prettify the Floridan colonies. Future goals: Conquer India and Indonesia. Make big war with Russian-French-British-Bohemian-Spanish coalition if I can set it up.

Interesting events in this game: The Knights conquering all of Anatolia and Guyenne migrating to being a pan-Caribbean state before I sliced them in two parts.

Spoiler :

And I personally do find EU2 waaaaay prettier than EU3. But EU4 shows to be even prettier!

 

[Daftpanzer]

That's a sexy empire LJ!

So Lucky trolled me into raging on EU3 But in the end, I started playing it again today, and decided I do quite like it. I loaded up the 7 Years War scenario and played some as Sweden, made friends with Denmark and just sat there peacefully teching up and building manufacturies and getting rich and having enlightened national ideas. Meanwhile Holland was gang-raped by Austria, Prussia and Britain, losing badly, while French forces managed to overrun almost all of Britain's colonies in America, tee hee.

It did take me a long time to get into EU1 originally. It was sitting on my hard drive for six months while I barely played the tutorials. I think that might happen with every complex strategy game like this: it takes a few tries before things start to click, then you get that one magic game that grabs your interest and pulls you in.

This is becoming a Paradox games appreciation thread? Though I guess it should be no surprise that Civ players who are interested in NESes would also like the Paradox games. I MAEK EPMIREZ

 

[Eltain]

Why is fuchk censored but gang-rape is not?

DOWN WITH THE CENSORS