Who should own the Falklands?

[classical_hero]

The UK.

Because the Britishs created Canada, Australia and the USA (though the Americans tend to deny it), but the Latino Americans created only Simón Bolívar, Hugo Chávez, and Mexican revolutions.

Actually the British as a nation did not create America, but those fleeing religious persecution did.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

The first colonists from Britain were not religious refugees, but younger sons of noblemen who wanted an easy way to get rich.

The first to come "fleeing religious persecution" had already found religious freedom in Holland, but did not want their culture contaminated by the Dutch. Perhaps more importantly, they thought there was too much religious freedom for those who disagreed with them.

 

[holy king]

why do you call the malvinas by this strange name?

 

[Bast]

RULE BRITANNIA!

 

[BCLG100]

The British cleared those lands from aborigines and Indians (or First Nations or Native Americans). They built the first cities, infrastructure, corporations. They introduced advanced agricultural methods. And, the last but not the least, British colonial administrations were the first working governments there.

So, yes, I consider those countries created by Great Britain. That's why they became so attractive to immigrants.

But how can, for instance, Pre-revolution America be considered the creation of America anymore than say the Merovingians creating modern day France? History doesn't work in one linear timeline, certainly Britain had a larger impact on the history of those three states but in terms of North America other countries were already getting involved so their development in all likelyhood would not have been dramatically different.

You mean Saxons, Angles, or Vikings?

That was a typo in the end (i meant to say America) but Britain works adequately well. The Romans built the original infrastructure in Britain, using an extend version of your argument it should mean that Italy should have the Islands.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Britain. Might makes right + the people want British oversight + Britain, in my opinion, is far more important an ally than Argentina. We can always try to court Brazil or Chile if we need a regional ally so badly.

As well, of course I'll support Britain, purely out of my nationalist undertones. Why? Because Chavez has declared his lot thrown in with Argentina... therefore, if Chavez actually follows his word... it makes sense to support the Brits AND take out Chavez at the same time!

Then again, we do have a Democrat President in office, and they're far less trigger-happy than Republicans, not to mention the Demmy Congress.

...Unless the midterm elections put the warmongers in power, that is...

 

[ParkCungHee]

The British cleared those lands from aborigines and Indians (or First Nations or Native Americans). They built the first cities, infrastructure, corporations. They introduced advanced agricultural methods. And, the last but not the least, British colonial administrations were the first working governments there.

Yes, just look at the very British Sounding names we have here: Yonkers, Nassau, Suffolk, Brooklyn (Breuckelen), the Bronx...

 

[bathsheba666]

Yes, just look at the very British Sounding names we have here: Yonkers, Nassau, Suffolk, Brooklyn (Breuckelen), the Bronx...

Well, Suffolk is the name of a county over here.

And I guess you could be being selective in your choices.

 

[Formaldehyde]

By picking one of the few areas settled by the Dutch...

 

[Flying Pig]

Yes, just look at the very British Sounding names we have here: Yonkers, Nassau, Suffolk, Brooklyn (Breuckelen), the Bronx...

...New York, Plymouth, New Jersey, Boston... See, I can be selective too. And BTW Suffolk is in England.

 

[GinandTonic]

Suffolk isnt just in England, it's impossibly English. Constable country and all that. The mythologised rural "real England".

Spoiler :

 

[BCLG100]

Suffolk isnt just in England, it's impossibly English. Constable country and all that. The mythologised rural "real England".

Spoiler :

I would say that perhaps only Surrey and Kent come close in terms of Englishness...

 

[klaidonis]

OK, as I am called "a racist" which seems to be kinda a curse here I'd better switch to a "politically correct" speaking mode.

I think that for a properly named city to survive it should be protected from not always friendly natives, some authority should be elected or assigned to govern it, borders should be demarcated, and some business activity should take place even in the XVII century. And then a town should develop and not contract.

It requires good governing. Good governing is exactly what Great Britain brought to its' colonies. Good governing is what the Falkland islanders have now and what they will loose under Argentina rule.

 

[Godwynn]

Britannia rule the Falklands!
Falklanders never never never shall be slaves!

 

[mechaerik]

...New York

....Which used to be New Amsterdam.

Not taking sides on this debate, just pointing it out.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Good governing is exactly what Great Britain brought to its' colonies.

It was a pretty mediocre-to-bad governing when it came to non-resettlement colonies. Not that anyone other colonial power was better in that regard.

 

[bhsup]

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Do Emperor Penguins live that far north? I thought only the smaller varieties did?

 

[bhsup]

Only under the dominion of the emperors, though. Also, just as the USA is responsible for Guam's defense, so the Emperors are responsible for the little cousins.

 

[Bill3000]

Britannia rule the Falklands!
Falklanders never never never shall be slaves!

And I thought I loved you.