Who'll win the 2020 rematch?

[Ryika]

The summer of 2017 is near, so it's about time to start talking about the 2020 elections.

Clinton is currently in the process of positioning herself as the center of the opposition, and she doesn't seem to have learned anything from her defeat during the last elections and instead of thinking about why people don't like her, is still blaming WikiLeaks for, well, taking off her mask and showing the world the wicked grimace that's hiding behind it. Still, she has the influence, and for some reason part of the hard-left still thinks she's a good candidate, so I have no doubt that if she wants to be the candidate in 2020 - and if she doesn't do us the favor of dying before that happens she'll probably want to - she'll probably be the candidate.

Meanwhile, Trump's presidency is a catastrophy. He doesn't get much done, and the things he does are widely unpopular. People voted for his populist message, what they got is a mainstream conservative president. Some people are happy with that, but the part of the voterbase who got him the presidency in the first place hardly have reasons to cheer. Still, it seems to me that if the right doesn't want to crash and burn in 2020, they will have to back Trump.

So in conclusion, I think 2020 will be 2016 part 2.

My incredibly detailed, well-informed predictions:
Voter participation will be at a historical low. Hillary will probably win.
She'll claim it as a victory for women and minorities, and will then go full career politician mode, lower taxes for the rich, and bomb a few places in the middle east to celebrate.

Then <something, something, nuclear holocaust>.
And then our suffering is finally over.

 

[onejayhawk]

Ted Cruz will be elected in 2020.

J

 

[Broken_Erika]

Ted Cruz will be elected in 2020.

J

Followed by lower taxes for the rich and celebratory bombing in the middle east.

 

[Kyriakos]

Clinton again?

Why?

FFS, just find a reasonable and reasonably likable candidate, and he/she will win. Don't go with Hillary again.

 

[Broken_Erika]

She wants to be president and probably wont stop until she gets the office, or gets too old.

 

[civver_764]

Do we need a president at all? Or a federal government for that matter?

 

[inthesomeday]

I'm not quite sure yet, to be honest. My biased feed always makes it seem like Trump's voter base is fed up, but I haven't actually been back out home to the Rust Belt since before the inauguration. Depending on what I see when I head over to St. Louis/Chi town for this summer I might stick with Two Term Trump.

I think the Party won't dare to put Clinton forward again. At least I hope so. I favor someone like Kamala Harris (Cali represent!), a tokenist Dem's dream and a solid "center-left" candidate willing to say that gay people are okay, and who has a clean record.

A clean record. I really hope the Dems realize that will decide 2020.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Trump is the favourite since incumbents always are, but his benefit is about as small as it possibly can be given his stagnant, low support. It's still too early to know who the Dem candidate will be, but given more and more data about who did and didn't show up for the 2016 election voting bloc, it'd be strategically stupid to nominate a white person as the candidate.

 

[Kyriakos]

Trump is the favourite since incumbents always are, but his benefit is about as small as it possibly can be given his stagnant, low support. It's still too early to know who the Dem candidate will be, but given more and more data about who did and didn't show up for the 2016 election voting bloc, it'd be strategically stupid to nominate a white person as the candidate.

Not if the white person is sane/popular. Ie virtually any dem choice would be better than Hillary ^^

 

[onejayhawk]

Clinton again? Why?

Ignoblis oblige would be my first guess. She feels compelled to grasp at something she should not touch.

I strongly doubt Trump will run again. He has marked his territory.

Not if the white person is sane/popular. Ie virtually any dem choice would be better than Hillary ^^

You might be surprised. The cupboard is very bare.

J

 

[Gori the Grey]

She wants to be president and probably wont stop until she gets the office, or gets too old.

Done.

 

[Kyriakos]

Her being 74 by then isn't positive, but isn't the deal-breaker (isn't Sanders 74 now?)
But surely she has to gtfo already. Let the dem party choose any somewhat sane candidate and they will easily win.

 

[JollyRoger]

Ted Cruz will be elected in 2020.

J

Given his miserable performance yesterday with Yates, I don't see how. He may have even did worse than Cornyn, which is saying something.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Not if the white person is sane/popular. Ie virtually any dem choice would be better than Hillary ^^

I doubt this will work. Hillary lost largely as a result of minorities staying home and not voting, particularly black voters. Obama had it going; black/minority main candidate, throw a bone to racists/whatever by having an old-timey white dude (Biden) be VP. This does limit the field. Cory Booker is one. I think Tammy Duckworth is a potential strong candidate (and a Midwesterner!) but she has displayed nothing in the way of even considering running. I dunno. Dems need to excite the base and the base is increasingly young and diverse and a 65 year old white guy just won't do it anymore.

 

[Kyriakos]

How about a 78 year old white guy? (Bernie) ^^

Anyway, it just is not possible that Hillary is the best dem bet. She already lost a run, fhs.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

He got totally bodied among black and latino voters by Hillary so I doubt it.

 

[Narz]

My prediction is that neither Trump nor Clinton will win their primaries. Democrats would have to be idiots to choose Clinton again.

 

[EnglishEdward]

I predict that Michael Richard Pence will be the Republican Candidate.
However mediocre he may be as VP, he will shine in comparison with DT.

I don't know who the Democratic candidate will be, but it won't be Hilary.
I feel she will be withdrawing from politics suffering from one or another
common age related problems, that would likely impact on her intellect.

 

[danjuno]

He got totally bodied among black and latino voters by Hillary so I doubt it.

I think that's more a matter of HRC's roots with these groups (and two-way nature of the race) than Sanders' deficiencies with them. If Bernie goes in and HRC doesn't, he'll likely have a head start by virtue of being the runner-up from last time in the same way HRC was last year. If another candidate manages to quickly gather the minority vote in one camp, there'd be another big fight, but if multiple candidates split the minority vote (Booker vs Castro?), Sanders would be in a good position.

 

[GenMarshall]

The DNC would be shooting themselves on the other foot if they let Hillary go in for 2020.