Evolution is a pack of shameless lies, I dont know why some people insist on defending it.
People who defend the sickening theory of evolution are sadly no better than holocaust deniers if you ask me. Just my opinion
Proof....?
Why do people get so personal about defending evolution?
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Perfection
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Evolution is science and I like my science not screwed up. Evolution just happens to be the science that religious nuts love to hate.
Do you have that stone?
Yes there is.
Anyhoo, Evolution is a science, which means it is based on observable reality. In particular, it is extremely well-supported by all the lines of evidence we have available to us. Just pretending it isn't true doesn't make your wishes so. It doesn't matter how well you cover your ears or how loudly you yell.
I also find it outrageous that you claim believing in something based on the evidence (Evolution) is just as bad as denying the holocaust (something all the evidence supports having happened). There's not a bit of similarity between the two.
Do you have that stone?
Does it matter if he did have some sort of stone he claimed was given to him by a magical entity?
Seriously, proof?
mangxema
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I wouldn't care if it weren't for the fact that the people who badmouth evolution have, in my experience, completely misrepresented it. And the audience, who probably knows even less eats it up. That annoys me. If you're going to argue against science, make sure you know how science actually works!
What would be the point? You don't win debates with knowledge, you win with rhetoric. The whole thing is about "winning", or at least "struggling to win".
Perfection
The Great Head.
Validity.
Validity.
But of course, validity is not a necessity in contemporary American political discourse.
But it is a necessity in long-term survival. Eventually the political discourse will realize that (I am not saying all lies and deception will go away, but eventually those that care about politics -- the people -- will realize that validity is important to strive for).
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cubsfan6506
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Because in short there is nothing different about atheists. We are all human beings. We will argue our beliefs. We will fight for are belief's and we'll get psst off at people who don't listen to what seems like logic to us.
Yeah, sure, the point I'm trying to make in the other thread is that "creation vs. evolution" is an issue at all because theyre trying to change a scientific theory that, while important for long-term progress, is not important right now. They couldn't do that with a thing that would impact people right now, because no one (not even they themselves) would support it.
A lot of silly things that people do/believe can be traced to the fact that their thinking is "rooted in the now", with no perspective forward at all.
Perfection
The Great Head.
But it should be.
Evolution denial is more about the fact that it's hard to immediately demonstrate and conflicts with biblical thought then any foresight failure.
Well, the fact of the matter is that during the last 8 (or more?) years it hasn't really been.
Again, that's probably because a lot of people view politics as entertainment/prejudice validation and don't feel like anything can go wrong for them by "sticking with the team".
Perfection
The Great Head.
Yeah, but a man can dream.
Narz
keeping it real
I disagree.
Let me distill this. Science is here to answer the question of how. Religion is here to answer the question of why.
The problem comes when the uber-pious get the 2 confused. I've yet to read one bit of evolutionary theory that says "God doesn't exist". I've yet to see any scientists barging into a Sunday morning service saying "THIS IS ALL WRONG! WORSHIP EVOLUTION!"
Yet, I see metric assloads of the uber-pious trying to break down the halls of science because they don't like the inference. They're the ones drawing the inference. Sure, there are some atheists who are loudmouth a-holes, but you're talking about an (admittedly) vocal tiny minority. Primarily the problem lies w/ those religious people who see evolution as a threat and infer the meaning that it may mean God doesn't exist.
In this country we have separation of church and state. We also need separation of church and science.
As I've said before, let's let everyone put their money where their faith is. If you're a creationsist, then voluntarily refuse to take all medicines that are derived in some part from evolutionary science (of which many, maybe even most, modern medicines are) and, in turn all atheists will refuse prayer or to be prayed for.
And then both sides can leave those of us in the middle, who can, mercifully, reconcile religion and science, alone.
Mr. Blonde
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Science is a self-correcting system which uses obervable facts, applies the scientific method and replaces theories with new theories fitting observations better.
Most attacks on the ToE are done by persons ignoring observable facts, not applying the scientific method, claiming "theories" that dont´t fit the conception and are mostly ignorant on science (I suspect most of the stuff is copied from religious sites and is not thought through by the posters). I saw hilarious misunderstandings of the 2nd law of thermodynamics, for instance.
It just strikes me as arrogant attitude to claim the ToE wrong which was developed and refined by hundreds of scientists without having a clue about science. They are dismissing all the hard, diligent work done by scientists with a wave of their hand. I will not respect people with this kind of attitude and get defensive about my profession, maybe sometimes with a personal attitude. I don´t like to be accused of belonging to a belief system (yeah, science is about belief and not facts
) and ignoring "valid" theories after working long and hard for my PhD in chemistry by an ignorant teen who does not even understand when his argument is refuted.
Most attacks on the ToE are done by persons ignoring observable facts, not applying the scientific method, claiming "theories" that dont´t fit the conception and are mostly ignorant on science (I suspect most of the stuff is copied from religious sites and is not thought through by the posters). I saw hilarious misunderstandings of the 2nd law of thermodynamics, for instance.
It just strikes me as arrogant attitude to claim the ToE wrong which was developed and refined by hundreds of scientists without having a clue about science. They are dismissing all the hard, diligent work done by scientists with a wave of their hand. I will not respect people with this kind of attitude and get defensive about my profession, maybe sometimes with a personal attitude. I don´t like to be accused of belonging to a belief system (yeah, science is about belief and not facts
) and ignoring "valid" theories after working long and hard for my PhD in chemistry by an ignorant teen who does not even understand when his argument is refuted.Similar threads
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