World's Largest Mall to be Built in China

[classical_hero]

It sounds like a who can build the biggest mall. Will there be other attempts to out China, sure, so why do people bother with such large malls?

 

[(+) Influence]

I heard about this a while back. People in my company were talking about "Tour of the Malls" where visiting these malls are the actual tour package. Although, it's hard to predict if it'll actually be successful. Well, back to the drawing board until we can come up with something that is profitable to us.

 

[Esckey]

I live in edmonton and do most of my shopping(other then groceries) at West Ed........and I must only use like 4 or 5 stores outta the entire place. Its a big waste of space. Theres one section of the mall I havn't been in for like 4 years

 

[Cilpot]

Why do they have to make replicas of landmarks in the western world (Hollywood, Paris, Venice)?

Why not make something unique of their own?

 

[kryszcztov]

Why do they have to make replicas of landmarks in the western world (Hollywood, Paris, Venice)?

Why not make something unique of their own?

Because we Westerners told them we were the greatest, and so they're starting to believe it, and copy our model, but with their population they'll do 10 times "better" than us. I wanted to rant about the Chinese who can't find a real way to expand on their huuuuuge history and culture, but maybe we are the ones to blame.

I'd say, let them replicate the Eiffel Tower and the Arc de Triomphe, they'll never know what it is to walk in Paris that way. Unless this gives the Chinese even more will to visit our countries, in which case : fair enough. I still think the museum concept is better to learn about other places. Do you know really more about the world when you walk around the Chinese Arc de Triomphe, just after buying your load of pork for dinner ?

 

[stormbind]

The Chinese are impressive. I read a theory that suggested economic growth circulates the globe.

So it started in Europe... went to USA... now to China... and so forth, because the cost/benefits of small upgrades are less than large developments. Eventually Europe is the oldest and most in need of development and the cycle repeats.

But, it was only a theory, and not enough human history to prove it.

 

[Gelion]

Biggest country in the world - biggest shop center . Seems fair to me
The question is how widespread the mall phenomenon will be? As far as I remember socialist (read soviet) shops they were nothing like European ones..... the whole thinking is different. Are teh Chinese copying he model or trying something completely different?

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Its funny that people (including the Chinese government) continue to call China a 'communist' nation.

 

[nonconformist]

Just a little thought:

China isn't Communist, or even Marxist. It hasn't bee in years(if ever it was). It's not even Stalinist, it's a pseudo-capitalist economic system coupled a different type of government.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

China today has alot more in common with South Korea before the democratic reforms, than with the old 'Red' China or Soviet Union.

 

[~Corsair#01~]

The Chinese are impressive. I read a theory that suggested economic growth circulates the globe.

So it started in Europe... went to USA... now to China... and so forth, because the cost/benefits of small upgrades are less than large developments. Eventually Europe is the oldest and most in need of development and the cycle repeats.

But, it was only a theory, and not enough human history to prove it.

More of an observation than a theory. What was it's stance on the ancient world?

 

[stormbind]

More of an observation than a theory. What was it's stance on the ancient world?

Don't remember. It claimed India would be next to rise, not China... so I think the economist who wrote it has fallen at the first hurdle.

All other things being equal, the nation which is most backward generally gets the most upgrades. Compare French & British rail networks after WW2

 

[Dida]

It is sad to see the Chinese, a brilliant race of people slowly losing its creativity. They used to make great inventions, paper, compass, etc, now they know nothing but to pirate softwares, shoot at harmless protestors and replicate western landmarks. How sad.

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[Dann]

Why do they have to make replicas of landmarks in the western world (Hollywood, Paris, Venice)?

For the benefit of the 2nd tier of consumers, who can't afford to travel and see the originals.

Because we Westerners told them we were the greatest, and so they're starting to believe it, and copy our model, but with their population they'll do 10 times "better" than us. I wanted to rant about the Chinese who can't find a real way to expand on their huuuuuge history and culture, but maybe we are the ones to blame.

Nah. It's just kitsch and a nouveau riche thing. These people blindly think anything imported is better. Thankfully their numbers are few.

As for the mall concept, does anyone have a patent on that? China is merely following the trend, and making some adaptations yet.

Why not make something unique of their own?

But we do that too. Right beside "Windows of the World" is "Splendid China" theme park, containing replicas of scenic spots throughout China.

If you want more meaning, then travel to the real thing. Yunnan river gorges, Suzhou and Hangzhou private gardens, the Forbidden Palace in Beijing, the Great Wall, the Terracotta Army in Xian...

 

[Dann]

It is sad to see the Chinese, a brilliant race of people slowly losing its creativity. They used to make great inventions, paper, compass, etc, now they know nothing but to pirate softwares, shoot at harmless protestors and replicate western landmarks. How sad.

That's because we're still playing catch-up, see? Several hundred years of Neo-Confucian cultural arrogance, then a few decades of corrupted free-for-all capitalism, then a stint as Japan's whipping boy, followed by another couple decades of communist insanity.

The fact that we're still in 1 piece (well, almost) and making progress today is already enough to be thankful for IMO.

I think this is just a phase. Soon they will be confident enough to produce their own architectural signature once again.

 

[silver 2039]

Don't remember. It claimed India would be next to rise, not China... so I think the economist who wrote it has fallen at the first hurdle.

All other things being equal, the nation which is most backward generally gets the most upgrades. Compare French & British rail networks after WW2

Well India and China are rising at pretty much around the ame time.

 

[Rambuchan]

Seeing as a certain someone hasn't visited this thread yet please allow me to insert the appropriate tone of contribution in his place:

"Well this clearly confirms the quiet and ever-present sense of Sino-superiority that the world has been harbouring in it's backward, uncivilised belly for so long. It is only when the mighty Chinese-behemoth triumphs over the uneducated world by using that world's humble standards and cultural vehicles does it understand."

If that someone was Chinese it's fair to say that's the kind of post we would be seeing . *Looks over his shoulder*

 

[TrailblazingScot]

Originality seems to have died a death in China, their country is going to become just one big Star Trekkian replicator

 

[CenturionV]

Already, four shopping malls in China are larger than the Mall of America. Two, including the South China Mall, are bigger than the West Edmonton Mall in Alberta, which just surrendered its status as the world's largest to an enormous retail center in Beijing. And by 2010, China is expected to be home to at least 7 of the world's 10 largest malls.

NOOOOooooooo!

Well at least we still have gretzky.... sorta

 

[Rambuchan]

I don't think we should confuse the appearance of a massive mall with the rotting away of China's cultural heritage. In the same way the car is just a vehicle or tool of modernity, just as a fridge is and a mobile phone is. These things simply accelerate people's speed of living. Sure small communities lose their livelihood in the face of these modern accessories arriving but every large community around the world simply absorbs these into their ways of living and keeps on keeping on. It's not a shame at all - how else did you expect a large urbane population to go about their shopping?