Would you ever experiment with your sexuality?

[Ekolite]

Probably not, but would you?

 

[classical_hero]

Extremely unlikely, since most of them look very mannish, even if they have all the surgery, but the rare few, I will have to keep an eye out for and watch out, but it is unlikely I will ever meet one in real life. I have seen shows like Jerry and Maury where they often have them on, but they are easy to point out that they were once males. But for you, they are "the best of both worlds".

 

[Yared]

<Günther>

Memories

 

[Ekolite]

Extremely unlikely, since most of them look very mannish, even if they have all the surgery, but the rare few, I will have to keep an eye out for and watch out, but it is unlikely I will ever meet one in real life. I have seen shows like Jerry and Maury where they often have them on, but they are easy to point out that they were once males. But for you, they are "the best of both worlds".

If you honestly think that then I don't think you really understand bisexuality. I like men and I like women, but anything in between I find totally repulsive. That includes transsexuals, but also just really effeminate men and manly women. I like my men to be men and women, women.

 

[Boris Godunov]

As a gay man, I'll take the opposite scenario--would I experiment sexually with a girl?

Yeah, been there, done that. While I was able to function due to the physical stimulation, I can't say it did anything for me. I wasn't "repulsed," but I have no interest in doing so again.

I do find it hilarious when the "uberstraight" guys freak out and say things like "HELL NO!!!!1!" when asked this question instead of a simple "No thanks, not interested." To me that speaks volumes about their security with their own sexuality. "Methinks he protests too much..."

On a side note, I've been with a few straight guys who were interested in experimenting. In fact, the first guy I ever fooled around with while in high school is now happily married with kids, and I've no reason to believe our coupling indicated anything other than that he was a horny guy who was happy to have anyone play with his fun parts.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

No, I'm not a lesbian. I don't make a secret, I'm bisexual, but what he said was obnoxious no matter who you are. I certainly don't pursue women because I'm unattractive to men, nor do I pursue women that are unattractive to men. Neither do the vast majority of lesbians.

Well, I always perceived this as a meme referring to the unrealistic expectations created by the movie industry.
As a matter of fact the host of the most popular political talk show over here is a Lesbian.

Not exactly what I would call an ugly sight.

edit: I want to mention one additional thing straight couples can do gay men cannot. It's kind of tough to do here without getting too graphic.

"Boob job" seems easy enough.

Seems like all cultures have some form of shame regarding certain expressions of sexuality so the emotion itself must be innate.

I am not sure this applies to the tribal cultures which used to live in Oceania / the Americas.

 

[Leonel]

Only if the guy was cute.

 

[Luckymoose]

death? Isn't that a bit extreme?

I don't like things going up my bum.

 

[Disgustipated]

I don't like things going up my bum.

sounds a bit homophobic to me. things going up your bum aren't that much different than things going down your bum. Haven't you ever enjoyed a good dump? I'd imagine it's a lot like that (haven't actually tried it lol)

The reason why I don't do it as I said is because I don't think I'd enjoy it. It seems dirty. I've always had the fear if I did it even to a woman, my thing would look brown after I finish. Who wants that crap on their wang? I'd only consider doing it for a woman if she requested it, and I used a condom. Even then I'd rather not. And it would be just as dirty if someone did that to me. And while I do enjoy a good dump, I don't exactly enjoy it that much that I get close to "that".

But not all gay sex is that way. Many gays think that's dirty too and don't do that particular act. They just do other stuff.

 

[BuckyRea]

As a matter of fact the host of the most popular political talk show over here is a Lesbian.

The host of the most intelligent political talk show over here is a lesbian.

 

[Disgustipated]

No woman is a lesbian around me. I am that good. muhahahaha.

 

[_random_]

This is my number one problem with Christian morality. Stuff that feels good is immoral, WTH?!

Would you say that no pleasurable things are immoral?

 

[Boris Godunov]

But not all gay sex is that way. Many gays think that's dirty too and don't do that particular act. They just do other stuff.

Quite. Besides, the men I know most obsessed with anal sex are straight guys who think it's the epitome of the orifices of the female.

I do not enjoy anal sex particularly, and definitely not as the bottom. I'll top if it's really wanted, but for the most part I strongly prefer to avoid it altogether and stick with other methods.

 

[Yared]

No woman is a lesbian around me. I am that good. muhahahaha.

You mean they go Asexual?

 

[Boris Godunov]

Would you say that no pleasurable things are immoral?

I think it's obvious that he means that it doesn't make sense to proclaim something as immoral just because it's pleasurable.

If something is pleasurable and doing it doesn't cause harm to someone else, then it's not immoral. Consensual sexual acts between adults, for whatever reasons, should never be considered immoral, that's just Puritanicalism. Citing some sort of intangible, unprovable "damage to the soul" doesn't suffice to condemn such activities.

 

[Arakhor]

Well, for two million squid, I'd certainly consider having sex with someone vaguely appealing, regardless of their gender. Disgust at all the slimy stuff is transitory - tonnes of cash lasts a lot longer!

 

[Toasty]

I came out of the closet at 17. Prior to that, I dated (and had sex with) numerous females in high school. It really just wasn't my bag. To be honest, I wish our society wasn't so obsessed with sex and labels. I would prefer that people just judge me as me, and not put imaginary tattoos on my forehead.

 

[_random_]

I think it's obvious that he means that it doesn't make sense to proclaim something as immoral just because it's pleasurable.

If something is pleasurable and doing it doesn't cause harm to someone else, then it's not immoral. Consensual sexual acts between adults, for whatever reasons, should never be considered immoral, that's just Puritanicalism. Citing some sort of intangible, unprovable "damage to the soul" doesn't suffice to condemn such activities.

Admittedly, my view on the matter makes little sense in an atheistic framework, but I'm not denouncing it just because it's pleasurable. If pleasure were a bad thing, then I wouldn't even be here, since arguing with strangers does give me a certain sick pleasure. Pleasure is a very good thing that is often sought in the wrong places.

 

[civver_764]

Would you say that no pleasurable things are immoral?

Aside from cases where you are causing displeasure to someone else by doing so, yes I would say that.

 

[Boris Godunov]

Admittedly, my view on the matter makes little sense in an atheistic framework, but I'm not denouncing it just because it's pleasurable. If pleasure were a bad thing, then I wouldn't even be here, since arguing with strangers does give me a certain sick pleasure. Pleasure is a very good thing that is often sought in the wrong places.

Isn't that up to individual tastes and experiences? A blanket "oral sex is wrong!" doesn't make any sense when the consequences of engaging in oral sex are entirely situational and dependent on the mindset of the individual involved with the act. But yes, there's very little reason to condemn consensual sexual practices in and of themselves, whatever they may be, outside of a religious framework.

Still, I'm not sure of any Biblical justification for condemning such an act between two married people. In fact, I found one Christian site saying quite the opposite:

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/sex-oral.html