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[WTP] Quick questions

Discussion in 'Civ4Col - We The People' started by Nightinggale, Feb 7, 2020.

  1. ikkiyikki

    ikkiyikki Chieftain

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    Really enjoying the mod. Hadn't played Colonization in years but got it the other day on Steam for $7. Downloaded this mod and I'm *hooked*. It is soooo much better than vanilla, wow!

    Anyway, wanted to ask about the Native Trader. I can't figure out how it's supposed to work, halp? In my mind it should work by having the unit go into a native village and be presented with an option analogous to the "live among natives".

    Also, could just be that I haven't rebooted in many hours but I seem to have lost the ability to click on a map to take me to that location. Clicking, double-clicking... nothing. Have to manually scroll. Is there a shortcut to make jumping around the map any faster?
     
  2. OldSock

    OldSock Chieftain

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    Aye, it works just like that. It's "establish trade mission" or something like that. If it's not working, maybe you have an expert native trader in colonist profession somehow. You need to equip it with trade goods in a colony to get the native trader profession.

    Left clicking works for me, on the map or mini-globe. x centers on a unit.
     
  3. OldSock

    OldSock Chieftain

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    Is there a good realistic world map to use with 2.8.2?

    I tried Scenarios RAR Americas Huge - random. Played for awhile... didn't find any other Europeans with my scouts. Played some more... couldn't find Europeans with a privateer. Opened world builder... and there are no other Europeans.
     
  4. lethiel

    lethiel Streaming Col at https://www.twitch.tv/lethiel01

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    Be sure the other Europeans are included when you start the game in the lobby. It can easily happen if you start the game as a multiplayer game or you remove some of your opponents.
     
  5. bogwart

    bogwart Chieftain

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    Maybe a Vanilla question, but anyway.
    Trade Points:
    'You will most likely earn the majority of your Trade Points by selling Goods to Europe, Africa, Port Royal, your Fellow Europeans or the Natives.' (Colopedia)
    Does it matter how much profit you gonna make?
    In other words, is Good value taken into account, or just the number of Goods?
    Also, Goods sold on your local markets are not considered for getting Trading Points?
     
  6. Ramstormp

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    Looks to me like it's based on the amount of gold changing hands, not the amount or value of the yields themselves. You don't appear to get any points from other trading with other Europeans. You get trade points for building market buildings, but I can't see anywhere indicating that you get points for the domestic market transactions themselves.
     
  7. bogwart

    bogwart Chieftain

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    Thanks! I always thought markets would have an on-going impact on trade points.

    Out of curiosity I cheated me a simple scenario via World Editor.
    What I found out was that 30% of Goods value is converted to TP when trading with Europe/Africa/Port Royale, versus only 15% of Goods value when trading with the Natives.
    Trading with Europeans, as you already mentioned, gives no TP at all.
    Markets give only a low, onetime TP bonus. (e.g. 100 TP vor Village Market, 150 for Town Market.)

    I have to adjust my strategy a bit I think, as some Trade FF are quite good ones:
    Jan de Witt (-25% requ. for buildings),
    N.P. Resanov (2Exp. Native Traders, +25 better prices from bargaining and Trade Posts),
    John Smith (-20% Cost of recruiting Units in Europe),
    Alexander Hamilton (additional Hammers for Basecamp/Village/Town/City Halls/Gov.Palace/Col.Congress),
    Samuel Adams (increases LB prod. by tax rate)

    Fun fact:
    There are no 'negative' TP, meaning you get TP when you buy and immediatly sell Goods in Europe/Africa/Port Royale. Or, in a more practical way, when you buy cheap in one harbor and sell it (with bargain) in another.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2021 at 4:28 AM
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