2020 US Election (Part Two)
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The shortest path to beating Trump is to win Florida. Without Florida Trump has a very difficult path to 270.
Patine
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Imagine if more people today understood that "authoritarian xenophobe," is NOT a generic, general reference blob title of convenient application that makes all policies, goals, tactics, ambitions, and tropes of one automatically interchangeable with, or assumed to be, or declared to be, so interchangeable, with all others, as opposed to a bunch of disparate and differing movements with very different in beliefs, agendas, reasons for being, and contexts for rising, and that the assumption for similarities, to the point of re-using old labels, and aggressively forcing them and their usage down every dissenter's throat (much in the same way a Government Censor of many hard-right authoritarian regimes have done, in fact), and use the application of the blender-whipped "Fascist pudding," as grounds launch witch hunts from and to kill real facts from impeding dishonest, disingenuous, manipulative, and abusive declarations and actions by political oppositions of said regimes. Despite how we're being told to think and view things, in the most unhealthy of ways, this is not a Manichaean epic, or a Grand Space Opera, a High Heroic Fantasy, or a Silver Age Comics Blockbuster - there is no "Good," or "Evil," objectively. Both "sides," of this argument are VERY, VERY manipulative and disingenuous, with criminals of the worst among them and in their biggest endorser lists. They have both spoken on VERY few of import - a lot fewer than that should have, by now - and neither has made much clear at all about what the plan will actually be from their side come inauguration day if they win - or if they lose. It's a pack of liars unworthy of any trust all around, but nobody seems to care that honesty is far more of a weak point for both sides here than usual.
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Cruising towards 200,000 dead. Oh my, whatever could we have done? What do we have a government for if it can't be leveraged against the spread of disease? Wait, it can be, we have done, we will do again. This is what small c's are for. Spreading pestilence screws up the pursuit of happiness along with life. Sometimes liberty must sing in harmony. These voters aren't small c's.
He **** the bed.
Cloud_Strife
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Watched the RNC convention and im genuinely concerned for the mental well-being of those that continue to vote and support the gop
You realize how many people have needlessly died as a result of Trump's wholely inadequate response to Covid, right?
Some of whom i knew, who should still be here.
I don't ever want to know what goes on in your mind, it's completely alien and anti-thetical to anything remotely resembling sanity or decency.
You realize how many people have needlessly died as a result of Trump's wholely inadequate response to Covid, right?
Some of whom i knew, who should still be here.
I don't ever want to know what goes on in your mind, it's completely alien and anti-thetical to anything remotely resembling sanity or decency.
Cloud_Strife
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Those are our two options, what the **** else do you want from me?
When people suggest revolution you kvetch.
When i suggest not voting for the greater of two evils you kvetch.
What do you want? This is where we are, it is what it is and beyond a literal revolution where those governing us are subject to the punishment they deserve, nothing will meaningfully change.
Farm Boy
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Vote otherwise, or just pick your evil. It's not like the criticism becomes invalid. Voting isn't everything, to boot. By all means do it, but voting for president is probably a remarkably low impact life activity.
Maybe at this point I just need to ***** about it some so I don't go straight up crazy?
Maybe at this point I just need to ***** about it some so I don't go straight up crazy?
Cloud_Strife
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Conservatives/Republicans are currently doing irreperable harm to this country, intentionally, something has to give and the second they're marginalized, out of office, etc, I'll turn to the democrats and throw them into the trash as well.
Is this about ‘don't vote the Democrats, they want you to have dignity’ part as quoted a few pages ago?
Cloud_Strife
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The whole thing was like a fever dream, genuine fascist propoganda and republicans will eat it up.
Farm Boy
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Well, then just own up to the evil in the party. We need less murderers in blue places and I'll continue living with "masks are ebil" morons and trying to get them to suck less. The vote will probably be the least significant thing I do in a lifetime of insignificant inconsequential things. Still going to roll out and vote against bedcrapper for the 4th time.
Cloud_Strife
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They are intrinsically incapable of "sucking less" and rather than exam why people might dislike them, they will double down and continue to vote GOP.
They might not be evil, but they aren't far behind, do you understand what I'm saying?
Cloud_Strife
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I struggle to understand why you'd waste so much energy, capital or time on people who've shown no desire to change, these people are gone.
Look at them in their eyes, they're dead behind the eyes, like a shark.
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My parents changed their minds on homosexual people getting married in their late 50s, no longer a recent event, rejecting previous explanations for molestation. There's really only ever been one reason to care deeply about that one. They aren't Democrats. I'm going to guess they vote with the murderers this time around.
Cloud_Strife
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Do you think that ameliorates or undos the damage they've since inflicted by supporting a party that essentially waged war on the queer community, leading many to die from a disease the party itself viewed as God's scourge?
It's great they changed their minds and all, but of what consolation is that to those that have suffered? It shouldn't have taken them that long, it shouldn't take anyone long.
Cloud_Strife
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I don't know, I just wish they didn't **** over the result of us by voting for an evil party
Yes, but there's a thing here. One of Trumps sons (they're more or less exchangeable at this sort of thing) was on yesterday saying how growth, etc. were higher than with ‘slow’ Obama. Of course there was the implicit lie by omission that the eight years of Bush's Republican administration had left the Obama administration a legacy of a catastrophic crisis that had resulted from the same ‘tax the poor, unleash the rich’ and very bad international goodwill from erratic interventionism including two major full-scale invasions with subsequent occupations, and this time around the same is being done under the Donald, but while the coronavirus has ensured that this collapse would start with Trump as sitting president instead of maybe his successor (thing might just have held out) it has also given him, as it has so many self-worshipping autocrats here and elsewhere, the ready-made excuse that ‘it's not my policies, it's the virus’.
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