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34.5 percent of young African American men are unemployed

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/23/AR2009112304092_pf.html

Blacks hit hard by economy's punch
34.5 percent of young African American men are unemployed

By V. Dion Haynes
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 24, 2009

These days, 24-year-old Delonta Spriggs spends much of his time cooped up in his mother's one-bedroom apartment in Southwest Washington, the TV blaring soap operas hour after hour, trying to stay out of the streets and out of trouble, held captive by the economy. As a young black man, Spriggs belongs to a group that has been hit much harder than any other by unemployment.

Joblessness for 16-to-24-year-old black men has reached Great Depression proportions -- 34.5 percent in October, more than three times the rate for the general U.S. population. And last Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that unemployment in the District, home to many young black men, rose to 11.9 percent from 11.4 percent, even as it stayed relatively stable in Virginia and Maryland.

His work history, Spriggs says, has consisted of dead-end jobs. About a year ago, he lost his job moving office furniture, and he hasn't been able to find steady work since. This summer he completed a construction apprenticeship program, he says, seeking a career so he could avoid repeating the mistake of selling drugs to support his 3-year-old daughter. So far the most the training program has yielded was a temporary flagger job that lasted a few days.

"I think we're labeled for not wanting to do nothing -- knuckleheads or hardheads," said Spriggs, whose first name is pronounced Dee-lon-tay. "But all of us ain't bad."

Construction, manufacturing and retail experienced the most severe job losses in this down economy, losses that are disproportionately affecting men and young people who populated those sectors. That is especially playing out in the District, where unemployment has risen despite the abundance of jobs in the federal government.

Traditionally the last hired and first fired, workers in Spriggs's age group have taken the brunt of the difficult economy, with cost-conscious employers wiping out the very apprenticeship, internship and on-the-job-training programs that for generations gave young people a leg up in the work world or a second chance when they made mistakes. Moreover, this generation is being elbowed out of entry-level positions by older, more experienced job seekers on the unemployment rolls who willingly trade down just to put food on the table.

The jobless rate for young black men and women is 30.5 percent. For young blacks -- who experts say are more likely to grow up in impoverished racially isolated neighborhoods, attend subpar public schools and experience discrimination -- race statistically appears to be a bigger factor in their unemployment than age, income or even education. Lower-income white teens were more likely to find work than upper-income black teens, according to the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University, and even blacks who graduate from college suffer from joblessness at twice the rate of their white peers.

Young black women have an unemployment rate of 26.5 percent, while the rate for all 16-to-24-year-old women is 15.4 percent.

Victoria Kirby, 22, has been among that number. In the summer of 2008, a D.C. publishing company where Kirby was interning offered her a job that would start upon her graduation in May 2009 from Howard University. But the company withdrew the offer in the fall of 2008 when the economy collapsed.

Kirby said she applied for administrative jobs on Capitol Hill but was told she was overqualified. She sought a teaching position in the D.C. public schools through the Teach for America program but said she was rejected because of a flood of four times the usual number of applicants.

Finally, she went back to school, enrolling in a master's of public policy program at Howard. "I decided to stay in school two more years and wait out the recession," Kirby said.
On a tightrope

The Obama administration is on a tightrope, balancing the desire to spend billions more dollars to create jobs without adding to the $1.4 trillion national deficit. Yet some policy experts say more attention needs to be paid to the intractable problems of underemployed workers -- those who like Spriggs may lack a high school diploma, a steady work history, job-readiness skills or a squeaky-clean background.

"Increased involvement in the underground economy, criminal activity, increased poverty, homelessness and teen pregnancy are the things I worry about if we continue to see more years of high unemployment," said Algernon Austin, a sociologist and director of the race, ethnicity and economy program at the Economic Policy Institute, which studies issues involving low- and middle-income wage earners.

Earlier this month, District officials said they will use $3.9 million in federal stimulus funds to provide 19 weeks of on-the-job training to 500 18-to-24-year-olds. But even those who receive training often don't get jobs.

"I thought after I finished the [training] program, I'd be working. I only had three jobs with the union and only one of them was longer than a week," Spriggs, a tall slender man wearing a black Nationals cap, said one afternoon while sitting at the table in the living room/dining room in his mother's apartment. "It has you wanting to go out and find other ways to make money. . . . [Lack of jobs is why] people go out hustling and doing what they can to get by."

"Give me a chance to show that I can work. Just give me a chance," added Spriggs, who is on probation for drug possession. "I don't want to think negative. I know the economy is slow. You got to crawl before you walk. I got to be patient. My biggest problem [which prompted the effort to sell drugs] is not being patient."

The economy's seismic shift has been an equal-opportunity offender, hurting various racial and ethnic groups, economic classes, ages, and white- and blue-collar job categories. Nevertheless, 16-to-24-year-olds face heavier losses, with a 19.1 percent unemployment rate, about nine points higher than the national average for the general population.

Their rate of employment in October was 44.9 percent, the lowest level in 61 years of record keeping, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Employment for men in their 20s and early 30s is at its lowest level since the Great Depression, according to the Center for Labor Market Studies.
Troubling consequences

Unemployment among young people is particularly troubling, economists say, because the consequences can be long-lasting. This might be the first generation that does not keep up with its parents' standard of living. Jobless teens are more likely to be jobless twenty-somethings. Once forced onto the sidelines, they likely will not catch up financially for many years. That is the case even for young people of all ethnic groups who graduate from college.

Lisa B. Kahn, an economics professor at Yale University who studied graduates during recessions in the 1980s, determined that the young workers hired during a down economy generally start off with lower wages than they otherwise would have and don't recover for at least a decade.

"In your first job, you're accumulating skills on how to do the job, learning by doing and getting training. If you graduate in a recession, you're in a [lesser] job, wasting your time," she said. "Once you switch into the job you should be in, you don't have the skills for that job."

Some studies examining how employers review black and white job applicants suggest that discrimination may be at play.

"Black men were less likely to receive a call back or job offer than equally qualified white men," said Devah Pager, a sociology professor at Princeton University, referring to her studies a few years ago of white and black male job applicants in their 20s in Milwaukee and New York. "Black men with a clean record fare no better than white men just released from prison."

So what do you think about this? What solutions do you suggest to this problem? Why are blacks suffering from more unemployment than other races?
 
Africa is far too diverse for such stats to be useful.

Next in the News:

The Western and Northern Hemispheres are gloriously rich.

EDIT: Ok, so I thought the OP was about Africa... and my post still works...
 
They should look for jobs if they're unemployed.

Seriously, that's the answer.

There are more people looking than there are jobs to fill. That's why this problem exists.


Being under-educated and/or under-skilled does not make finding a job in a slow economy, easy.
 
Those lazy bums. They should all commit minor crimes and get caught 3 times. Then, we can legally lock them away in prisons for the rest of their lives, just so we can be protected from them.

If that jobless rate was the same for all ethnic groups, we would be in 179th place between Mayotte and Namibia.

http://www.globalcareernews.com/publish/article_6.shtml

USA! USA! USA!
 
Does that jobless rate include prison/jail?

Ultimately, it's the imposed economics and internal culture of a minority. *yawn*
 
That's rasist.
 
I like a mix a of Cosby (social) and bigotry (economic) [you think Japanese or women are getting paid the same here?] into my explaination of minority stats.

After that we could explore inner cities (environment).

Race never comes into play, personally.
 
Butbutbut race doesn't exiiiiist! How can you classify people like this??? It's unscientifiiiiiic! </parody>
 
Sweden needs to work on minority integration (helsingborg, lund and malmo downtowns in particular) and intergenerational justice (elderly hospitals were a nightmare ~2003). We have "retirement communities", Sweden could probably use those until their children are willing to give a crap.
 
The job market is absolutely miserable for entry level stuff right now. It seems about the only thing available is marketing. And basically that means harassing people on the street downtown.

There might be a long-term cultural/racial/American problem at work here, however, the recent recession has been brutal. It is supposed to be worse in much of the U.S., and I can see how it isn't going to help bring a group that is already on society's fringes more strongly into the legal social order.

EDIT: To answer the OP more directly. There might be a level of micro-level discrimination. However a lot of the black figure can be attributed to the fact that, in general, they are vying for jobs in the most vulnerable parts of the job market.
 
I'm not that surprised. That number is a reflection on education.

Isn't that why Liberia was founded? :mischief:

That was awful. ... :lol:
 
Generally speaking in these recessions blacks and women and tend to lose jobs more than white men and the salary gap increases. I would say there's a certain degree of racism at work here. African-Americans faced increased poverty levels, and women lost ground in the job market between 2001-2007. It looks like that trend is continuing.
 
Sweden needs to work on minority integration (helsingborg, lund and malmo downtowns in particular) and intergenerational justice (elderly hospitals were a nightmare ~2003). We have "retirement communities", Sweden could probably use those until their children are willing to give a crap.

Yea, and maybe when we've had our Middle-Easterners as long as you have had your blacks their unemployment will fall to the same smashing 34,5%, awesome, can't wait.

Not sure what elderly hospitals you were to when you were here but we have retirement communities too. Obviously more work could and should be done to make sure thee elderly are ok but I really have no idea where you bring this up as a specific area where Sweden has problems.
 
Generally speaking in these recessions blacks and women and tend to lose jobs more than white men and the salary gap increases.

I wonder how they compare to other minorities.

My first guess is that the other minorities are doing much better.
 
Generally speaking in these recessions blacks and women and tend to lose jobs more than white men and the salary gap increases. I would say there's a certain degree of racism at work here. African-Americans faced increased poverty levels, and women lost ground in the job market between 2001-2007. It looks like that trend is continuing.

What racism? Tell me. You mean giving them money to survive? Yeah, that very disturbing, I agree, we should stop doing that. Trying to integrate them?

Anybody with a pair of eyes can notice the great disparity between blacks and the general public. They tend to stick to their own kind which also happens to be pretty much incompatible with American values, hence the tensions.

Isn't that why Liberia was founded? :mischief:

Seriously, in Africa, they couldn't claim they are being discriminated because they're brown (most of them). Which is ridiculous claim anyway. If people don't like them, it's not because they look differently, it's because of their asocial behavior.
 
1/3 are unemployed, 1/3 in prison and 1/3 is PRESIDENT.

What is wrong with your black people - UK black people are good!
 
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