A Mafia Game taking place in the East [Game Thread - Concluded]

[remake20]

Please explain to me why more lynch candidates provide useful information because I honestly don't know.

 

[Count Dingdong]

Please explain to me why more lynch candidates provide useful information because I honestly don't know.

If you have a runaway wagon, you get sheep and hiding wolves, regardless of the alignment of the lynch candidate. It's only when you have competing lynch candidates that you can read the flow of the lynch to see who's protecting whom and why they might be. When people fear death, they're more prone to revealing something and making mistakes. And even for the people who become prime lynch candidates and survive, we get information about them and their allies by who was willing or unwilling to lynch them. By giving a choice ("Lynch either A or B, who do you want?") you get information about whether people care that one survives. There are no absolutes, but it's certainly more informative than if no one's up for lynch or if only one person is. Close wagons are the most nerve-wracking for wolves, as they can be put under suspicion for making deciding votes on a townie or for protecting a fellow wolf.

((Swap wolf for mafia/scum/villains/baddies/whatevers, depending on the fluff of the game you prefer...))

 

[remake20]

Ah okay, that does make sense. Thank you for your enlightenment.

BSmith

Kennigit because he's the next highest candidate and there's no real case to be made against anyone.

 

[Legato Endless]

This is indeed rather unusual. It may have something to do with the arrival of so many filthy gaijin.

Look, if you allow our children to interbreed and you stop limiting the number of us who can play baseball, I'm sure we can get through this transition as smoothly as possible.

SouthernKing

Kennigit

 

[Sprig]

Remember that we need a majority voting to lynch, not a plurality, so we need to be careful about this or we will end up lynching no one

And even that may tell us something.

 

[Sprig]

If you have a runaway wagon, you get sheep and hiding wolves, regardless of the alignment of the lynch candidate. It's only when you have competing lynch candidates that you can read the flow of the lynch to see who's protecting whom and why they might be. When people fear death, they're more prone to revealing something and making mistakes. And even for the people who become prime lynch candidates and survive, we get information about them and their allies by who was willing or unwilling to lynch them. By giving a choice ("Lynch either A or B, who do you want?") you get information about whether people care that one survives. There are no absolutes, but it's certainly more informative than if no one's up for lynch or if only one person is. Close wagons are the most nerve-wracking for wolves, as they can be put under suspicion for making deciding votes on a townie or for protecting a fellow wolf.

((Swap wolf for mafia/scum/villains/baddies/whatevers, depending on the fluff of the game you prefer...))

As an aside - its nice to see baddies being referred to as wolves again

 

[Legato Endless]

No, not a majority, only nine people.

Right. Which means if we're organized enough, we could get three people into lynch contention, if we're feeling fancy. Although two is probably more reasonable. Not sure how active or pliable things are here. This is basically impossible on GITP.

 

[spaceman98]

If you have a runaway wagon, you get sheep and hiding wolves, regardless of the alignment of the lynch candidate. It's only when you have competing lynch candidates that you can read the flow of the lynch to see who's protecting whom and why they might be. When people fear death, they're more prone to revealing something and making mistakes. And even for the people who become prime lynch candidates and survive, we get information about them and their allies by who was willing or unwilling to lynch them. By giving a choice ("Lynch either A or B, who do you want?") you get information about whether people care that one survives. There are no absolutes, but it's certainly more informative than if no one's up for lynch or if only one person is. Close wagons are the most nerve-wracking for wolves, as they can be put under suspicion for making deciding votes on a townie or for protecting a fellow wolf.

((Swap wolf for mafia/scum/villains/baddies/whatevers, depending on the fluff of the game you prefer...))

The problem is, with the majority rule, even a clearly favored lynch candidate has little to fear which is why I'm sticking to the BSmith.

 

[Sprig]

Quick Tally: (Someone Double check)

BSmith1068 - 6 (Verarde; edse; Internet Flea; spaceman98; KingMorgan; Murska)
Verarde - 1 (BSmith1068)
Internet Flea - 1 (SamSniped )
SamSniped - 1(Zack )
remake20 - 1 (JoanK)
Southern King - 1 Kennigit
Kennigit - 4 (choxorn; Sprig; remake20; Legato Endless )
TFT - 1 (Caelian )
Riedquat - 1 (johnhughthom )
Spaceman - 1 (Snerk)
Choxorn - 1 (Riedquat )
Newyn - 1 (Count Dingdong)

 

[Sprig]

Right. Which means if we're organized enough, we could get three people into lynch contention, if we're feeling fancy. Although two is probably more reasonable. Not sure how active or pliable things are here. This is basically impossible on GITP.

Majority - more than 50%

Also far more easier to do on GITP than here. - There seems to be a perception here that changing your vote is a bad thing.

 

[Kennigit]

The traditional cfc way is to have a town vig secretly slaughter townies at night.

The traditional takhisis mafia way is to let a claimed sk (really part of a team) continue to kill "on behalf of the town" or something

I for one am glad folks are open to change

 

[Caelian]

TFT to Kennigit, for the reasons given.

This also means the majority of people voting for Kennigit have played at gitp. Coincidence? Or vast evil conspiracy?

On a slightly more serious note: Count just gave a good explanation for why we might want competing wagons. Yet he is not helping one of the competing wagons.

 

[Snerk]

I'll tag along. Spaceman98, Kennigit.

 

[JohannaK]

The traditional takhisis mafia way is to let a claimed sk (really part of a team) continue to kill "on behalf of the town" or something

Awww

I doubt whether to change my vote to BSmith or to Kennigit. Hmm, I'll decide tomorrow.

 

[Zack]

Coincidentally Kennigit is my other mafia partner, so I won't join that bandwagon either.

Also far more easier to do on GITP than here. - There seems to be a perception here that changing your vote is a bad thing.

Man, what's up with you making negative, sweeping generalizations about CFC lately? That's not true at all.

 

[Sprig]

Ah okay, that does make sense. Thank you for your enlightenment.

BSmithKennigit because he's the next highest candidate and there's no real case to be made against anyone.

For for the second part I presume by real you mean 'of some substance'. When has that ever stopped us lynching someone? But if you really tried, you can make a case day one. Its never going to be a strong case but let me demonstrate.


At the time, Kennigit was not the only candidate he and SK both had two votes. Yet Remake20chose him over SouthernKing without any explanation.

While it is probable that Kennigit (nor Bsmith for that matter) is not in any danger of being lynched, should it swing that way, remake should not be allowed to leave himself unexplained even if the answer is likely to be simplistic.

 

[Sprig]

Coincidentally Kennigit is my other mafia partner, so I won't join that bandwagon either.


Man, what's up with you making negative, sweeping generalizations about CFC lately?

yeah it was an unfair comment. Especially after recalling some events in your starwars game.

 

[remake20]

It was because I didn't go to preschool and thus can't count.

 

[Zack]

It was because I didn't go to preschool and thus can't count.

Thus leading to a lacking education and a life of crime?

 

[Winston Hughes]

The traditional takhisis mafia way is to let a claimed sk (really part of a team) continue to kill "on behalf of the town" or something

*delurks* Warning to all players: be active or Takhisis might replace you with the kind of player who does stupid stuff like this. *relurks*