All leader portraits

[Morningcalm]

Well they want all the leaders to have exaggerated proportions to make them more interesting, and to fit with the general art style of the game- Gilgamesh is basically the incredible hulk, so skinny Trajan was always likely.

In terms of presentation of leaders, I'm interested to see how they convey Peter's stature- he was 6 foot 8 (just over 2 metres tall), putting him head and shoulders above others. I presume that makes him the tallest Civ VI leader (excluding Gilgamesh- 16 feet tall apparently!).

Skinny Trajan was anything BUT likely. He was always portrayed as buff and with a rounded, slightly plump (but robust) face.

Well, except in the Ankara bust, which showed him as he appeared shortly before his death.

 

[SMcM]

He was always portrayed as buff and with a rounded, slightly plump (but robust) face.

Buff? Not especially. He looks like he was in reasonable shape, but he is not especially brawny.

Spoiler :

Maybe he was not particularly skinny, but neither was he brawny. He does not exactly look athletic and he does not look particularly heavily built, so a caricature of him would probably be expected to look skinny.

 

[retrocity5]

Saladin in the house!

 

[SMcM]

Saladin in the house!

Anyone have any idea when Russia will be revealed?

 

[Siptah]

Anyone have any idea when Russia will be revealed?

For some reason I cannot specify, it will be on Tuesday next week. No more Monday/Wednesday, hurray!

 

[Eramas]

Most likely next week.

 

[upi00r]

For some reason I cannot specify, it will be on Tuesday next week. No more Monday/Wednesday, hurray!

How do you know?

 

[SMcM]

I love these miscellaneous facts which are posted on the Civilisation twitter!

https://twitter.com/CivGame/status/784470133909491712

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I love these miscellaneous facts which are posted on the Civilisation twitter!

https://twitter.com/CivGame/status/784470133909491712

Lulz. They stole that from Dr. Caitlin Green, who has been tweeting about connections between East and West during the Classical Era.

 

[Browd]

Actually, it's been in many news outlets in the last couple of weeks. Here's a sampling:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/luxury/ancient-roman-coins-japan/
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...-empire-are-found-in-ruins-of-japanese-castle
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...okinawa-buried-ancient-currency-a7332901.html

I'm not familiar with Caitlin Green's work, but I don't see her mentioned in any of these articles.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Actually, it's been in many news outlets in the last couple of weeks. Here's a sampling:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/luxury/ancient-roman-coins-japan/
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...-empire-are-found-in-ruins-of-japanese-castle
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...okinawa-buried-ancient-currency-a7332901.html

I'm not familiar with Caitlin Green's work, but I don't see her mentioned in any of these articles.

She is an Archeaologist with a blog and a prolific tweeter. The topic happens to be something she has been focusing on lately.

 

[Morningcalm]

Dear SMcM, see below re: Trajan--

Spoiler :

Many of the statues you showed appear to be of Trajan as a youth, or slightly older but not in his prime.

 

[SMcM]

Dear SMcM, see below re: Trajan--

Spoiler :

Many of the statues you showed appear to be of Trajan as a youth, or slightly older but not in his prime.

Most those don't particularly say anything about his physique- they are either just busts or he is wearing armour. I think you won't find anything very conclusive looking at pictures of statues of him. Besides, they perhaps would have been made good so as to flatter him/ honour him.

Besides statues, are there any written sources regarding his shape/size?

 

[Panixs]

Dear SMcM, see below re: Trajan--

Spoiler :

Many of the statues you showed appear to be of Trajan as a youth, or slightly older but not in his prime.

You cant really take body shapes into account from roman statues. They were made like a jigsaw and the heads were replaceable. When new emperors came along the old heads were removed and new ones added. In your pictures you can see the joints on the statues and you can clearly see that the body of the first picture doesn't match Trajans head.

 

[Morningcalm]

You cant really take body shapes into account from roman statues. They were made like a jigsaw and the heads were replaceable. When new emperors came along the old heads were removed and new ones added. In your pictures you can see the joints on the statues and you can clearly see that the body of the first picture doesn't match Trajans head.

Of course there is likely to be exaggeration, but nothing supports showing Trajan as skinny--he had flab flaps on his face even near death (see Ankara bust). Most busts (i.e. where the lower body hasn't been placed in ceremonial armor) still show him as very robust in the upper body. So we can take body shape into account on those areas.

 

[retrocity5]

For a while, I've been regretting and even considering if I could cancel my pre-order. Gorgo, Cleo, Medici, added only for the reason they are women. If Firaxis wants to add women, why not ones that did worthy things like in the case of Hatshepsut, Maria Theresa, Isabella, Catherine the Great. And why Gilgamesh, why not an actual person who 100% existed like Eannatum? Why the graphics choices?

 

[Birdjaguar]

For a while, I've been regretting and even considering if I could cancel my pre-order. Gorgo, Cleo, Medici, added only for the reason they are women. If Firaxis wants to add women, why not ones that did worthy things like in the case of Hatshepsut, Maria Theresa, Isabella, Catherine the Great. And why Gilgamesh, why not an actual person who 100% existed like Eannatum? Why the graphics choices?

Yeah, I don't play Monopoly anymore because the player pieces include a Scotty dog (I prefer cats) and a thimble (sewing is for women). Just knowing that they were choices completely ruined my opinion of the game.

 

[Sansa_Stark]

For a while, I've been regretting and even considering if I could cancel my pre-order. Gorgo, Cleo, Medici, added only for the reason they are women. If Firaxis wants to add women, why not ones that did worthy things like in the case of Hatshepsut, Maria Theresa, Isabella, Catherine the Great. And why Gilgamesh, why not an actual person who 100% existed like Eannatum? Why the graphics choices?

I don't get it. How come you don't know why was Gilgamesh added, since you were apparently in Firaxis offices when they decided to put those unworthy women in? You were on vacation or what?

 

[retrocity5]

Yeah, I don't play Monopoly anymore because the player pieces include a Scotty dog (I prefer cats) and a thimble (sewing is women). Just knowing that they were choices completely ruined my opinion of the game.

I can sense your sarcasm.

 

[retrocity5]

I don't get it. How come you don't know why was Gilgamesh added, since you were apparently in Firaxis offices when they decided to put those unworthy women in? You were on vacation or what?

Come on, if you were to ask the average person, they wouldn't say they know Cleopatra's achievements, only that she was a woman and the last Egyptian ruler. Medici was never in control of France, barely did a thing compared to Napoleon, Charles de Gaulle, Charlemagne, and Louis XIV. Gorgo didn't do much either, her husband may have died in battle but, at least he did something to stop Persian invaders.