Alternate History Thread II...

[Azale]

Okay dasios, if you cant immediately work on the stuff for a modding of that WW1 alt-timeline, then do you know of any good stat gathering places so I can get my own WW2 stats?

EDIT: Summer is coming, so I want to launch an NES to occupy some of my time

 

[das]

A) Go find someone to do the map, I understand Panda is too busy.
B) You could check some old NESes, especially those that died early, like Gelion's 1938 (I think) NES. Not much happened before its death, so with a few changes it will be quite workable.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Has anyone used this POD before? Hephastion doesn't die from a fever, and thus Alexander the Great doesn't go into mourning and in turn die from his own fever due to drinking too much.

Then he continues conquering the world, conquering more and more of the world, invading more and more of the known world.

Of course, the whole mediterranean would end up more Hellenized, but would still fall apart after Alexander's death.

Has this been done, or something of this persuasion?

 

[das]

That's one of the most-overdone althists (I mean about the survival of Alexander, not the exact reasons). Personally I think that Toynbee's ideas are awfully unrealistic; the idea that you talked about was already written about at lenght by a Russian althistorian by a nickname of "Tim" (actually, he had it somewhat differently, but basically Alexander still did conquer lots of land, pissing off practically all of his subjects in the process as he got ever more insane and eventually died after his forces were routed by a Greek rebel army in Asia Minor); I wrote abit about it here, kicking off yet another one of my many indecisive arguments with Xen. I'm not sure whether it was in this thread or the previous one, but try to look it up - its quite an interesting discussion, and no matter who you will agree with it is of much use if you want to write an Alexandrine timeline.

 

[silver 2039]

Has anyone used this POD before? Hephastion doesn't die from a fever, and thus Alexander the Great doesn't go into mourning and in turn die from his own fever due to drinking too much.

Then he continues conquering the world, conquering more and more of the world, invading more and more of the known world.

Of course, the whole mediterranean would end up more Hellenized, but would still fall apart after Alexander's death.

Has this been done, or something of this persuasion?

He wouldn't have lasted long if he tried to keep advancing into India.

 

[das]

He already fled from it by then, and instead had plans for the conquest of Arabia and the Mediterranean.

 

[Thlayli]

Das, a little question on your timeline. How did the Plantagenets crush Yorkist (or other) rebellions so quickly? They didn't have that good of a claim on the throne, as I remember.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

He wouldn't have lasted long if he tried to keep advancing into India.

This would be after he returned to Babylon.

 

[Dachs]

Too early?

I would do a guess-the-PoD thing, but I'm not much good with maps, and there are a few different things that could get this desired effect, with only slightly different outcomes.

 

[das]

How did the Plantagenets crush Yorkist (or other) rebellions so quickly?

WHAT Yorkist rebellions? For that matter, WHAT Yorkists? The Yorkists are as Plantagenet as Henry V.

 

[das]

A question to those who are following my present timeline... would you preffer me to do the 16th century in the same manner as the 15th one, i.e. with one HUGE post (this time it mayhap will be even bigger), or instead to do it in bits, leaving both more suspense and making it much more regular?

 

[Thlayli]

Sorry, I was thinking of Lancastrians...mixed up the dynasties there.

Hmm, probably a series would be better. I think that a map at this point would be a good idea though. What's going on in Mesoamerica?

 

[Disenfrancised]

A question to those who are following my present timeline... would you preffer me to do the 16th century in the same manner as the 15th one, i.e. with one HUGE post (this time it mayhap will be even bigger), or instead to do it in bits, leaving both more suspense and making it much more regular?

I prefer the huge posts myself - but if your do a series please link to the previous portions

 

[das]

Lancastrians

Also a Plantagenet branch, sorry.

I think that a map at this point would be a good idea though.

I don't. But I'll probably make one for the end of the 16th century or so, as by then changes will happen practically everywhere, thus making a map quite useful.

What's going on in Mesoamerica?

No divergence from OTL yet, naturally, but in the 16th century, quite obviously, things will be different.

Well, we'll see how things go; maybe I will post one huge post after all, maybe, if progress will be too slow, I will do with little ones.

 

[ThomAnder]

Asia's not affected at all, or is it?

 

[das]

Middle East is affected, ofcourse. China - not yet.

 

[ThomAnder]

I would imagine japan to be affected deeply, with no portuguese/dutch introduced guns and all. Then that will lead to no korean invasion which will leave Ming slightly stronger...? hmmm

 

[Symphony D.]

Uh, if the focus of the Europeans is not West, it will be all the more focused on the East, meaning interaction with Japan will be inherently greater of neccessity... "not yet" just means that the changes there aren't substantially divergent yet.

 

[das]

Precisely. Although I'm not sure if the European focus on the east will increase (in long-term, it might even decrease as compared to OTL) - Iberia is the only EUROPEAN power in the Indian Ocean, and the Castillians are somewhat more interested in Africa. Its really a complicated matter, so I can't tell all about it yet as I am not completely decided as of now.

And don't forget that we only left the 15th century now. The Iberians have only recently reached India. Japan is not yet affected by the PoD, as I said, and neitehr is China, but rest assured that they both will. Perhaps quite dramatically, too.

 

[Swissempire]

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