I'll prepare his concept later today. He is already in the early concepts part of the second post.
Alternate Leaders for VP project thread
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I'll prepare his concept later today. He is already in the early concepts part of the second post.
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Actually, looking at the Arabia proposal again, I think it would be better to make the combat bonus +30% for 25 turns. Sweden gets +20% on attack all game, after all, I don't think 20% would cut it
w.r.t. the Jan vs John Sobieski thing, I've only ever heard "Jan" in my life inside the Anglosphere. I wouldn't change it to John if it were me.
w.r.t. the Jan vs John Sobieski thing, I've only ever heard "Jan" in my life inside the Anglosphere. I wouldn't change it to John if it were me.
I have one more suggestion: we suggested 26 male monarchs and only 2 female (!) (Victoria and Hatshepsut). I think we should work on this. Women in game are always nice diversion.
What can I suggest from my perspective? As of Poland there were few of them: Św. Jadwiga Andegaweńska (wife of Władysław II Jagiełło, well known from Civ 6, religion/science) or Bona Sforza (wife of Zygmunt I Stary, diplomacy/production/food) are the most known where Bona was really powerful and did very much for our country being Italian.
Egypt - Cleopatra
France - Cathrene de Medici (civ 6)
Assyria - Sammuramat
Polinesia - Liliuokalani
China - Tzu-hsi
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Greece - Artemisia
Sweden/Denmark - Margarethe I.
What can I suggest from my perspective? As of Poland there were few of them: Św. Jadwiga Andegaweńska (wife of Władysław II Jagiełło, well known from Civ 6, religion/science) or Bona Sforza (wife of Zygmunt I Stary, diplomacy/production/food) are the most known where Bona was really powerful and did very much for our country being Italian.
Egypt - Cleopatra
France - Cathrene de Medici (civ 6)
Assyria - Sammuramat
Polinesia - Liliuokalani
China - Tzu-hsi
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Greece - Artemisia
Sweden/Denmark - Margarethe I.
@adan_eslavo Please, not a female for Poland. Our country was ruled by men and there’s no denying. Firaxis put Jadwiga in Civ6 and despite her being nice for the eye, she pales in comparison to big names you mentioned earlier.
Maybe I'll look into more female leaders later, but the sex of a leader is of no concern to me. What interest me are the key elements of a leader reign, and if these elements synergize well with the UCs of the civilization this leader will be associated to.
To answer to your Polish female leader suggestions : I limit myself to two new leaders per civ maximum, simply so that I can focus on adding leaders for as much civilization as possible.
Thank you nonetheless for your suggestion.
To answer to your Polish female leader suggestions : I limit myself to two new leaders per civ maximum, simply so that I can focus on adding leaders for as much civilization as possible.
Thank you nonetheless for your suggestion.
Can I choose Rome (I love my idea)
Basically a group of UNW slightly cheaper can only be built in capital that are basically normal but different names and available sooner. Truly fits Rome.
Rome is remembered not just the way they are on civ a slaveholding slaughter house it was the first megacity
Rome the city itself...
For example capetaline archives U Oxford available at philosophy, campus martius u heroic epic available at military theory the forum unique east india available at currency basically normal just available sooner and cheaper.
Basically a group of UNW slightly cheaper can only be built in capital that are basically normal but different names and available sooner. Truly fits Rome.
Rome is remembered not just the way they are on civ a slaveholding slaughter house it was the first megacity
Rome the city itself...
For example capetaline archives U Oxford available at philosophy, campus martius u heroic epic available at military theory the forum unique east india available at currency basically normal just available sooner and cheaper.
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UNW cheaper andaavailable sooner baths of caracalla the Senate capetaline archives campus martius the forum etc...
Different way of playing. Always highlight the bad side of Rome but in reality the bad side was not unique the good side was the governance the centralization etc...
In play it makes Rome play different expansion for population to build UNW in Rome to expand the glory of the city Rome.
Or maybe every time a NW is made in Rome gain population...?
Different way of playing. Always highlight the bad side of Rome but in reality the bad side was not unique the good side was the governance the centralization etc...
In play it makes Rome play different expansion for population to build UNW in Rome to expand the glory of the city Rome.
Or maybe every time a NW is made in Rome gain population...?
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I'm sorry to say this, Jarula, but please, if it's only to say such untidy, fragmented pieces of suggestions, then say nothing instead... Some of your ideas aren't devoid of interest, but you should clearly learn to clarify and organize your thoughts, and read back your messages before posting them... It's becoming quite irritating eventually...
What are you talking about it's not fragmented maybe it's my TBI speaking or the fact I'm typing on phone but rather than keyboard but doesn't sound off to me. Seems like train of consciousness chatspeak a bit which is pretty normal for forum speak unless I'm wrong on that but if you guys have an issue with it then I'll try to change how I type.
But my idea was this similar to a old mod already on steam for old Rome with similar characteristics.
But my idea was this similar to a old mod already on steam for old Rome with similar characteristics.
Yes, we've already discussed about such bonus (unique national wonder and such) for Rome last year, but adding a unique national wonder is adding a UC for Rome, and this has never been and will never be the goal of this mod. It was explicitly said in the first post that only the leader (with its personality, its colors, its pictures etc) and the UA of a civilization will be modified, so doing more is out of scope.
Concerning the idea of simply making all national wonders available earlier and cheaper, well, it will still be considered by the game as UCs, and I don't like the idea. Sorry.
Concerning the idea of simply making all national wonders available earlier and cheaper, well, it will still be considered by the game as UCs, and I don't like the idea. Sorry.
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Well if it is possible can one of you explain how to do some of the coding for can only be built in capital can do it myself...
Basically just adding UW as a UA. Balance wise I think it works as with fluff wise. It's no different than Venice Already in vox populi.
Really easy coding wise and gameplay wise really freaking cool kind of like district 9 civ.
Maybe then instead bonus towards creation of UW leader Trajan
+50% building NW in capital upon completion triggers WLTKD in all cities and increases capital pop by 1. No UW that way actually fits quite well.
Keep first part of UA the conquest thingy.
What's the other idea for Rome a buff to killing? Nevermind Rome lasted for over 1000 years of progress for humanity.
Honestly I don't even think they have the right UB to begin with. Rome should be culture focused. Colliseum should be swapped with Greek in terms of bonus Rome should be loaded with culture not GG and GA points...
Culture = social policies and Rome was the most advanced governance in the ancient world by far.
Basically just adding UW as a UA. Balance wise I think it works as with fluff wise. It's no different than Venice Already in vox populi.
Really easy coding wise and gameplay wise really freaking cool kind of like district 9 civ.
Maybe then instead bonus towards creation of UW leader Trajan
+50% building NW in capital upon completion triggers WLTKD in all cities and increases capital pop by 1. No UW that way actually fits quite well.
Keep first part of UA the conquest thingy.
What's the other idea for Rome a buff to killing? Nevermind Rome lasted for over 1000 years of progress for humanity.
Honestly I don't even think they have the right UB to begin with. Rome should be culture focused. Colliseum should be swapped with Greek in terms of bonus Rome should be loaded with culture not GG and GA points...
Culture = social policies and Rome was the most advanced governance in the ancient world by far.
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@Jarula I don't know if you are aware that you are talking mostly the same people like about year ago. And again you are trying to convience us to your "excelent" idea of Rome full of wonders, full of culture. I'm just waiting for your preatorians idea. Seriously. We told you - if you want, make your own thread, write your own mod. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again. New mod, new thread and you started over the same sh**y talks, walls of text that no one can understand because they are written in somekind of unknown language. I would like to warn you future modders - @Jarula will be there, to spam you too.
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I see this idea has not passed, but for the future - do you even play civ? +50% for 20 turns that is UA lasting 7% of the game. You have to time this ability perfectly in order to use it (which isn't awesome). Second part of this UA is even worse! +1 mov and 10% CS on desert. Which means on around 5% of tiles. Probably even less. So ummm... have some reason when proposing new leaders.
And just a reminder - UA doesn't have to really reflect actual abilities of leader. Right now Poland has solidarity, Holland East India Company, Turkey has Tanzimat and none of them have anything to do with related leaders.
What you talking about I have over 5000 hours of playing civ on diety most of them vox. And actually as it stands looks quite fair. It was actually a bit longer basically that plus thousand nights minus tourism. But the way y'all put it on here is quite good and fair helps them found religion.
Most of the time I play civ on ynaemp. The Omar one looks rad the extra faith.
Most of the time I play civ on ynaemp. The Omar one looks rad the extra faith.
But it adds nice flavor imo. And that's why I'm not special fun of Tanzimat and Solidarity, even if Solidarity is one of the most powerful UA's in the game
What are you suggesting for Boleslaw, @adan_eslavo ? I'm not really able to find interesting bonus, even though I know that Boleslaw :
- is called "The Brave" and "The Great" and indeed didn't shy away from conflit when necessary, attacking neighbour territories when he felt his position threatened, blinding oppenents to his rule
- successfully used religion, diplomacy and conquest as ways to expand and strenghten his sphere of influence at a time when Poland was a part of the HRE, to the point where he managed to found an actual kingdom of Poland thanks to ecclesiastic support
- he was an arbiter in Central European affairs, created the first Polish monetary unit and supported the creation of numerous infrastructures and buildings throughout his domain
Also, how would you call his UA ?
Indeed, but I prefer making so that there are relations between the leader and the UA. Gazebo, having only one leader per civilization, had to choose the most meaningful and unique bonus, even if they had nothing to do with the leaders. We, on the other hand, have a lot more flexibility, and so can try to focus a bit more on the leaders themselves, while keeping in mind the synergies between UA and UCs.
- is called "The Brave" and "The Great" and indeed didn't shy away from conflit when necessary, attacking neighbour territories when he felt his position threatened, blinding oppenents to his rule
- successfully used religion, diplomacy and conquest as ways to expand and strenghten his sphere of influence at a time when Poland was a part of the HRE, to the point where he managed to found an actual kingdom of Poland thanks to ecclesiastic support
- he was an arbiter in Central European affairs, created the first Polish monetary unit and supported the creation of numerous infrastructures and buildings throughout his domain
Also, how would you call his UA ?
Spoiler Hadrian Rome :
Spoiler Peter I Russia :
Indeed, but I prefer making so that there are relations between the leader and the UA. Gazebo, having only one leader per civilization, had to choose the most meaningful and unique bonus, even if they had nothing to do with the leaders. We, on the other hand, have a lot more flexibility, and so can try to focus a bit more on the leaders themselves, while keeping in mind the synergies between UA and UCs.
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