America: Write Your Own History

[adhiraj.bose]

Please check out post I made, Debs and Comrade Bose aka Bakhna made an agreement that there will be a consensus candidate chosen in cooperation between Communists and Socialists. But here I see three different left candidates.

 

[DKVM]

I'm tempted to vote for Foster but I'm not sure if the Communist Party has enough supporters to win.

Edit - I have decided to wait until more votes have come in. PM me if you wish to convince me to vote for a specific party early. One thing though, the only imperialism I would support would be a union of North and South America under 1 government. No overseas expansion

 

[Moai_Spammer]

Please check out post I made, Debs and Comrade Bose aka Bakhna made an agreement that there will be a consensus candidate chosen in cooperation between Communists and Socialists. But here I see three different left candidates.

check my post above, i said that we should all agree on one of the candidates

 

[adhiraj.bose]

Also, should we really have an election while a compromise is still being discussed between different factions ? Communists haven't yet raised their objections/agreements to the counter-proposals made by MrRandomPlayer.

 

[Lord Bigfoot]

Bruce me if you please. The best candidate of the bunch who isn't an extremist.

 

[Oregon Lee]

-edited-

 

[Moai_Spammer]

Bruce me if you please. The best candidate of the bunch who isn't an extremist.

you have to bold your vote, other wise it doesn't count

 

[Lord Bigfoot]

you have to bold your vote, other wise it doesn't count

Didn't know that. I vote for Bruce. Also can't believe i'm voting for a Socialist but he seems to be the best one of the bunch.

 

[CaterpillarKing]

Come comrades! We must vote on one leader! A central government is the only way to save the economy!

Foster

 

[Pliped]

I will wait till tomorrow to cast my vote, I want to see how this election shapes up.

also what were peoples thoughts on mrrandomplayer's compromise?

i don't think his compromise was a demand, it might have been a one-sided suggestion, but not a demand

Going through the so called "compromise" I counted maybe 1 or 2 minor points in that were in favour of the moderates compared to about 5 points on the side of the communists. I would not even call that a one sided compromise.

 

[adhiraj.bose]

The Compromise is too lopsided towards the communists. I propose the following compromise instead:

1. An liberal egalitarian system of government organization will be utilized, regarding workers and corporation owners as equal (in-game terms: Adopt/keep Egalitarianism as Organization civic)

Radical Communists and Socialists both agree with you on this point in so far as it prevents the capitalists from moving out of the existing system and adopting free market civic.

2. Public welfare programs such as healthcare, building construction, scientific research, and others will be solely the role of the government, not the corporations (in-game terms: Adopt/keep Public Welfare as Labor civic)

Radical Communists and Socialists agree with you on this point as well as it does not conflict in principle with our desires.

3. The federal government shall take a very strong role in regulating corporations (especially for environmental purposes) and ensuring that workers' rights are respected, but will NOT make the economy a command economy like the more radical communists wish. (In-game terms: Adopt/keep environmentalism as economy civic)

Radical Communists differ with both Socialists and Democrats and feel this should not be within the ambit of any compromise agreement. We should keep the question of economic policy before the people and leave them to decide through the democratic process.

4. The government civic will remain a Republic, the religion policy will remain Secular, and the military policy will be left to the discretion of the executive branch. (In-game: The other 3 civics will remain the same, with the military civic to change as needed)

Radical Communists and Socialists both agree on this point.

5. Both Conservatives and Liberals must pledge to stop with the radical mudslinging/violence and must agree to reasonably discuss and try to reach middle ground/compromise when there is a conflict of opinions.

That is the whole purpose of this compromise in the first place. Once the agreement is signed between our two forces we will keep the word.

6. All imprisoned politicians shall be released from prison, with the exception of Reimer, whose sentence will be reduced to one year, ONLY under the condition that they swear not to cause any more problems. Radical communist parties will still remain banned until the radical communists show that they have improved their ways.

Comrade CaterpillarKing has already clarified, this is a moot point. Radical Communists have been allowed back into mainstream politics.

This compromise does not make the government a complete communist economy (what the capitalists don't want) but keeps the best elements of both into a moderate, pseudo-socialist republic. It also releases the political prisoners and will unban all parties once the prisoners have shown that they will not cause any more trouble.

-Senator T. Renzo Trevisan (Moderate Socialist) of New Jersey

You have not however, clarified your agreement/disagreement with point 6 of our offer on adopting a non-interventionist foreign policy. Neither have you made it openly clear that there will be no effort to return back to pre-Debs era policies rolling back the welfare state. Upon clarifying this point, the compromise should be accepted with necessary amendments.

 

[CaterpillarKing]

I will wait till tomorrow to cast my vote, I want to see how this election shapes up.

also what were peoples thoughts on mrrandomplayer's compromise?



Going through the so called "compromise" I counted maybe 1 or 2 minor points in that were in favour of the moderates compared to about 5 points on the side of the communists. I would not even call that a one sided compromise.

It was very one sided but there was no threat so it wasn't a demand.

To everyone else, we are not radical communists, just communists. The radial ones are the ones that shot Wilson and such.

 

[Atlantic Pacf.]

Suspects and Extremist Group Found!

Yesterday, after a five day manhunt, the NYPD found eight suspects hiding in the basement of the Beacon Towers in Great Neck, Long Island, New York. Directed towards the house by a tip, the police surrounded the mansion for eight hours before any response occurred. One man then appeared in a window with a M1903 Springfield and started firing at the police. Two more suspects fired upon the police, resulting in all three suspects' deaths and the deaths of five police officers. The suspects then surrendered to the police after they apparently ran out of ammunition, and were promptly arrested and sent for interrogation.

Spoiler :

Two of the five surviving perpetrators.

According to the NYPD, the suspects were not affiliated with the KKK nor the SPA. Instead, they formed their own extremist group, the Lord's Resistance Army, which the NYPD estimates has around 100 people nationwide. The NYPD seized a copy of the LRA's 25,000 page manifesto outlining their goals and motivations, as well as various notes that summarized their ideas and plans for future attacks.

The LRA's goals are summarized as follows:
1. Send all immigrants and their descendants to their homelands, including the Irish and Australians. The exception would be Anglo-Saxon Protestants.
2. Return the entirety of the Negro race into slavery.
3. Exterminate the Native Americans and put lie into their claim that North America is for them instead of the Anglo-Saxons.
4. Overthrow the current government and impose a Protestant theocracy onto America.
5. Put into concentration camps, in addition to the Native Americans: Jews, Communists, Socialists, Catholics, homosexuals, and people with "loose morals," where they would be enslaved or be exterminated outright.
6. Eventually conquer the world, with all non-Anglo-Saxon Protestants put onto plantations or concentration camps to work for the Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

Deceased Student's Artwork Commemorated in the Met

With permission from her family, the Metropolitan Museum of Art will be displaying works done by the late Bronte Alcine, one of the students killed in the UN attack. Alcine, over the course of eight years, had created twelve paintings and three notebooks full of sketches, as well as a mural on one of the hallways of Bethesda Preparatory School.

Spoiler :

Experiment in Color Theory No. 2, by Bronte Alcine

Portrait of a Friend, by Bronte Alcine

In the words of Edward G. Robinson, the director of the museum, "This is our way of saying that 'We Remember.' It is a show of solidarity with the families of the deceased. We are saying to Alcine's family that their daughter did not died in vain, that as a child prodigy whose spark was ready to explode onto the world and show what the future of art was to be, she has contributed something to the world."

OOC question for RT: Will you Worldbuild any Nazis in, if possible? I'm sure Hitler would get inspiration from the LRA's manifesto, while at the same time be angered at Alcine's "degenerate art."

P.S. Sorry for still being in 1921 while everybody else has moved on to the elections. It sucks being a slowpoke.

P.P.S. I did not do this painting; a schoolmate did. My paintings tend to feature...well, bad art.

 

[adhiraj.bose]

It was very one sided but there was no threat so it wasn't a demand.

To everyone else, we are not radical communists, just communists. The radial ones are the ones that shot Wilson and such.

Was the re-investigation ever concluded on who tried to shoot the prez ? I recall RT said he would make a commission to re-investigate the assassination attempt.

 

[adhiraj.bose]

I suppose the Compromise had been compromised, . So I'll vote for Foster

 

[adhiraj.bose]

and all of us should vote for just that one guy. Without Debs the socialist movement seems to go nowhere in any case.

 

[Manuss]

I'm going to abstain this time.

 

[TheNoob]

I vote for Foster.

OOC: Also, Atlantic, tell your schoolmate she/he's an amazing artist!

 

[mrrandomplayer]

Radical Communists and Socialists both agree with you on this point in so far as it prevents the capitalists from moving out of the existing system and adopting free market civic.

So we are agreed there.

Radical Communists and Socialists agree with you on this point as well as it does not conflict in principle with our desires.

So we are also agreed there.

Radical Communists differ with both Socialists and Democrats and feel this should not be within the ambit of any compromise agreement. We should keep the question of economic policy before the people and leave them to decide through the democratic process.

In this compromise, we are both representing our respective constituents. Yours want a full communist government, some others are in support of a full capitalist government, mine are somewhere in between. Therefore, you should be able to make the decision since you are representing your constituents.

Radical Communists and Socialists both agree on this point.

That point was more to clear up ambiguities, so I'm not surprised.

That is the whole purpose of this compromise in the first place. Once the agreement is signed between our two forces we will keep the word.

Ok, that's fine.

Comrade CaterpillarKing has already clarified, this is a moot point. Radical Communists have been allowed back into mainstream politics.

OOC: Sorry, I forgot about Debs' actions. I'll take that part out.

You have not however, clarified your agreement/disagreement with point 6 of our offer on adopting a non-interventionist foreign policy. Neither have you made it openly clear that there will be no effort to return back to pre-Debs era policies rolling back the welfare state. Upon clarifying this point, the compromise should be accepted with necessary amendments.

I don't think a full non-interventionist policy is the wisest idea, but I think that an emphasis on stability and only intervening when absolutely urgent is a good idea. I'll amend the compromise to that. I don't see how there would be an effort to move back to the pre-welfare state, especially since this Compromise specifically outlines that and I personally support government welfare. I'll repost an edited version of the compromise and I am still open to input by the conservatives.

 

[CaterpillarKing]

Come on guys vote Foster! He is the only one that can save the economy!