An Idea Of why Marijauana Is Illegal

[Bigfoot3814]

It's fine and all that you don't like alcohol or marijuana. But if you can't even hang out with drunk or high people you are going to miss out on a large part of western life.

Think about it partna.

I have thought about it and you know it makes me kind of sad. I mean you gave it to me pretty straight in one of the other threads, saying it would be pretty hard to have any friends in the years ahead unless I drink or smoke pot or whatever. And I know I can't exist as the only sober guy in a group with a bunch of drunk and high people, you said yourself that sobriety in that situation is anti-social.

It makes me sad because I don't think I should have to change who I am to get along in this world. I'm not a bad guy at all. And I'll tell you Elta, I've been there, and loneliness is everything it's cracked up to be. And it hurts to hear stuff like that.

 

[CaptainF]

I have thought about it and you know it makes me kind of sad. I mean you gave it to me pretty straight in one of the other threads, saying it would be pretty hard to have any friends in the years ahead unless I drink or smoke pot or whatever. And I know I can't exist as the only sober guy in a group with a bunch of drunk and high people, you said yourself that sobriety in that situation is anti-social.

It makes me sad because I don't think I should have to change who I am to get along in this world. I'm not a bad guy at all. And I'll tell you Elta, I've been there, and loneliness is everything it's cracked up to be. And it hurts to hear stuff like that.

Aww man don't get down on yourself. No matter what path in life you choose, be it sobriety or getting tore up on a regular basis, you'll have friends. There are lots of people out there like you who have no desire to get drunk or stoned and do just fine.

No one really cares if you do one way or the other. I'll give you a tip even. If you're going to a party where you know people will be drinking, just keep an open drink with you at all times to blend in. No one will be the wiser.

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I will say this though. Most people that choose not to get intoxicated I believe do so out of fear. Some of it justified, but most of it I believe to be irrational. There are people I know that think one toke or swig will make them a loser and a failure. A lot of it I think has to do with all the indoctrination given to us as children and throughout our life via school, and ads on the television. Much of it is just lies...but unfortunately people buy into nonsense like this. Here's a good example of what I'm talking about.

It's interesting what you said about having to change who you are to fit in. Me personally I believe that getting intoxicated has little if anything to do with who you are at all (unless you're an alcoholic or whatever, but that's completely different). My activities in this regard don't have much at all to do with who I am either. I'm a pretty multi-faceted person, as anyone who knows me will tell you.

Odds are, you'll be changing quite rapidly in the years ahead anyway as you get out into the world and start to see things from a vastly different perspective.

My advice to you would be to at least give drugs a chance. Try them before you knock them. Find out what works best for you. If it turns out you do like them (and you just might) good for you, but don't go overboard. That's not something I advocate at all.

And if you don't like them, it's a non-issue. It really is. Like you said, you're not a bad guy, people will still be friends with you.

Just my 2 cents...from one home dawg to the other.

 

[Sharwood]

I have thought about it and you know it makes me kind of sad. I mean you gave it to me pretty straight in one of the other threads, saying it would be pretty hard to have any friends in the years ahead unless I drink or smoke pot or whatever. And I know I can't exist as the only sober guy in a group with a bunch of drunk and high people, you said yourself that sobriety in that situation is anti-social.

It makes me sad because I don't think I should have to change who I am to get along in this world. I'm not a bad guy at all. And I'll tell you Elta, I've been there, and loneliness is everything it's cracked up to be. And it hurts to hear stuff like that.

I have plenty of friends, and I don't drink, smoke pot, or leave the house without having to more than once a week. So you'll be fine. But in case you aren't, you can always sit alone in your bedroom, crying, while listening to "All by myself" over and over. Really helps chase the blues away.

 

[Mowque]

I will say this though. Most people that choose not to get intoxicated I believe do so out of fear. Some of it justified, but most of it I believe to be irrational. There are people I know that think one toke or swig will make them a loser and a failure. A lot of it I think has to do with all the indoctrination given to us as children and throughout our life via school, and ads on the television. Much of it is just lies...but unfortunately people buy into nonsense like this.

Your a good proponent of things, but this is rather insulting. You make it seem cause i have made a choice not to do things, that clearly i am under the influence of someone else. I'm not. I have looked and made a choice based on my own. Indeed, i have actually went against the hard-drinking nature of my area. This "Dude, when you grow up, you'll agree with me!" things, gets on my nerves. I am no more/less a product of indoctrination then you.

 

[Warhead5654]

Cheech and chong made pot look good!

 

[Orange Seeds]

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I will say this though. Most people that choose not to get intoxicated I believe do so out of fear. Some of it justified, but most of it I believe to be irrational. There are people I know that think one toke or swig will make them a loser and a failure. A lot of it I think has to do with all the indoctrination given to us as children and throughout our life via school, and ads on the television. Much of it is just lies...but unfortunately people buy into nonsense like this. Here's a good example of what I'm talking about.

No. i choose not to get intoxicated because i prefer my nervous system to function appropriately. I wish to be perceptive, coherent and controlled in all circumstances.

I do not see the need to become inebriated or high in order to be an interesting, fun and sociable person. The fact that anyone should rely on a substance beyond their own cognition in order to enjoy a situation shows that they are a dull and likely so are their friends.

If your most enjoyable nights are when you are drunk or high then i feel sorry for you. Likewise i feel sorry for people that insist on going somewhere with friends in order to have fun. If the act of being with your friends isn't enough to bring you pleasure then you either need better friends or need to develop yourself.

 

[Elta]

I have thought about it and you know it makes me kind of sad. I mean you gave it to me pretty straight in one of the other threads, saying it would be pretty hard to have any friends in the years ahead unless I drink or smoke pot or whatever. And I know I can't exist as the only sober guy in a group with a bunch of drunk and high people, you said yourself that sobriety in that situation is anti-social.

It makes me sad because I don't think I should have to change who I am to get along in this world. I'm not a bad guy at all. And I'll tell you Elta, I've been there, and loneliness is everything it's cracked up to be. And it hurts to hear stuff like that.

Well first off - Everything Dawgphood said.

Secondly, I used to be nearly 400 lbs ...... don't get me wrong I had friends, but no female company It blows. I know what it is like to be lonely as hell.

Thirdly, I have 3 good friends who are "squares" they didn't dance or drink. We hung out for a while never inviting them out with the rest of the group when we went "out out" i.e. to party. We finally took them when they keep asking. Before a few girls got them to drink. Just a few drinks.

Now In all seriousness when I go out on a real hard party night; lets say a good friends birthday. (no exaggeration) Over a period of 8 hours (includes pregaming and the last 2 hours or so where I am not drinking in order to insecure no hang over) I have around 20 drinks........ I get smashed. Not everyone should do that. It is a personality thing. I am the life of the party and not the driver + I never party foul when I get really tore up. ..... like some people. My BAC is usually around 0.20 .... You will see how I know below.

Back on topic So my friends now usually have lets say 4 drinks when they get to the party in about 1.5 hours. (they don't pregame because they don't need too) and then they have one or two drinks at the most per hour to maintain a very stable buzz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content I am guessing it is around 0.06 - 0.08 . I know because my friend is a cop and he keeps a breathalyzer in his car. He will get fired if he is pulled over and he is over the limit of 0.04. So the last hour before we leave He chills with no drinks (usually a bottle of water) and sobers up to 0.04. He is our non lame designated driver

The reason I say sober people are a buzz kill is because totally sober people can not stand people who are smashed. I know, and everyone else who drinks knows the feeling of getting to a party ate when everyone is drink and feeling like they are all idiots. Then they drink a lot to catch up .

If you are totally sober the whole time you will just sit there thinking "what a bunch of idiots" And you will give off bad vibes, people will notice.

Third. About the drinks. Unless you are from a ultra strict Christan family, there is no reason why you won't take a drink other than fear.

I know was convinced alcohol was the root of all evil until I was 14.

There is nothing wrong with going out for lets say 5 hours to a party and having 6-10 drinks (as a full grown man anyway)

It is a normal part of life. Weed, fine what ever. Just tell people that they randomly drug test at work and you won't hear anything.

If you are afraid to have even 6-10 drinks ..... a most normal of western things. (even Hiliary Clinton took two triple shots of Bourbon at a bar while campaigning!) Then in effect it makes you look weak. Let me explain with a repost of an old post on another forum from me

Random piece of biological science info.

Have you ever wondered why even thou cigarettes can really mess you up health wise Marborlo (spl?) all ways have cowboys on their adds? And other companies all ways have some sort of "cool guy"?

It's like this, think of a young fit male gazzel in his prime. Only a few lions in Africa can even come close to catching this guy, the rest are too old, just not quick enough. A older lion starts to stalk him, but, He has no doubt that he can get away. ...... so what does he do?

He does what zoologist call *stallting He jumps up into the air as if to say look, I am fit and young, I can give you a head start and you won't catch me! Just move on to a older gazzel.

Essentially he is a young fit male doing dangerous stuff to prove how "badass" he is.

* Yes I spelled it right it's not stalling or anything like that


That's why they show cowboys. Cowboys are the image of fit and cool.

It's the same reason girls like "gangstas" and dudes with scars. And oddly fit and healthy junkies. Look even with doing such dangerous acts he is still fit, he must have good genes.



Anyway when a friend of yours says "hey I'll bet you can't take 6 shots with me" or "lets grapple" it's like they are saying Your DNA is whack, my liver is superior, I can choke you to death, I am stronger!


It's ******** to say ah look my liver is better than yours, I am a better fighter. but If you think all of your friends are a bunch of wussies you will not respect them. In your subconscious you know that your "tribe" is supposed to back you up when you are in danger. That is why you test each other. The trick is to not take it over the top and hurt yourself.

I know this is all jubled together because I haven't eaten in 24 hours an feel woozy (having blood work done tomorrow for my physical so I need to fast for 24 hours...... )


So I will just cut to the chase.


I know damn well that if you were at a party at lets say my house and there were 50-70 people there. The dj was spinning music you like and some very pretty girl dragged you off to dance you would. If she then grabbed your hand and said "lets go take a shot" You would. Because you can see that everyone else is having fun and not acting too stupid and you wouldn't want to look like a wussie.

I know it and you know it.

The rest of society agrees that having two or three drinks an hour is not dangerous behavior. In fact it is part of being a young person and a well rounded man. Being able to loosen up while still being in control of yourself.

You're 17 dude. I would bet everything I own on you having a drink by the time you are 21, unless you are much more scared than I though.

The only words I would have to describe a younger cousin of mine who was 17 and didn't drink at all would be shame. Great Shame. A waste of youth really.

 

[Elta]

I have thought about it and you know it makes me kind of sad. I mean you gave it to me pretty straight in one of the other threads, saying it would be pretty hard to have any friends in the years ahead unless I drink or smoke pot or whatever. And I know I can't exist as the only sober guy in a group with a bunch of drunk and high people, you said yourself that sobriety in that situation is anti-social.

It makes me sad because I don't think I should have to change who I am to get along in this world. I'm not a bad guy at all. And I'll tell you Elta, I've been there, and loneliness is everything it's cracked up to be. And it hurts to hear stuff like that.

No. i choose not to get intoxicated because i prefer my nervous system to function appropriately. I wish to be perceptive, coherent and controlled in all circumstances.

I do not see the need to become inebriated or high in order to be an interesting, fun and sociable person. The fact that anyone should rely on a substance beyond their own cognition in order to enjoy a situation shows that they are a dull and likely so are their friends.

If your most enjoyable nights are when you are drunk or high then i feel sorry for you. Likewise i feel sorry for people that insist on going somewhere with friends in order to have fun. If the act of being with your friends isn't enough to bring you pleasure then you either need better friends or need to develop yourself.

Yeah and forget music too!!!!!

Who dances to have more fun!!!!!!

And eating at a restaurant with friends!!!!! Who needs good food when you have friends!!!

And who enjoys playing at a lan party with their friends!!!


Conversation is enough!!!!! Just sit around and talk







They are enhancements.


I seriously feel sorry for people like you.
Worse than someone who suffers from blindness or deafness.


I am glad I wasn't raised to be afraid of everything. ..... Maybe it's genetic.

 

[Lay_Lay]

Can't have a serious discussion of "why MJ is illegal" without understanding previous policies and the historical events that led to current policy.

Taxation is one of the reasons, but not the biggest.

 

[Bigfoot3814]

Aww man don't get down on yourself. No matter what path in life you choose, be it sobriety or getting tore up on a regular basis, you'll have friends. There are lots of people out there like you who have no desire to get drunk or stoned and do just fine.

I guess. I mean, there are folks like Mowque right here on CFC, but it will be college after all. And even some people here on the boards look at you like you just pulled into the station on the crazy train when you tell 'em you're not a part of any of that stuff.

No one really cares if you do one way or the other. I'll give you a tip even. If you're going to a party where you know people will be drinking, just keep an open drink with you at all times to blend in. No one will be the wiser.

That's a pretty good idea.

I will say this though. Most people that choose not to get intoxicated I believe do so out of fear. Some of it justified, but most of it I believe to be irrational. There are people I know that think one toke or swig will make them a loser and a failure. A lot of it I think has to do with all the indoctrination given to us as children and throughout our life via school, and ads on the television. Much of it is just lies...but unfortunately people buy into nonsense like this. Here's a good example of what I'm talking about.

Well yeah, I know a lot of that stuff is a bunch of garbage, but I'm not scared of it. And like Mowque and Orange Seeds said earlier, me choosing to be sober doesn't mean I'm the victim of indoctrination or lies or anything like that.

Oh yeah, and if you pass out on a couch and get drawn on don't come crying to me.

It's interesting what you said about having to change who you are to fit in. Me personally I believe that getting intoxicated has little if anything to do with who you are at all (unless you're an alcoholic or whatever, but that's completely different). My activities in this regard don't have much at all to do with who I am either. I'm a pretty multi-faceted person, as anyone who knows me will tell you.

Come on... Not even a little bit? That I don't buy. Well either way, I feel being somebody who doesn't do drugs is a part of who I am, and I'd rather not change that even if being someone who does drugs isn't a part of who you are.

Odds are, you'll be changing quite rapidly in the years ahead anyway as you get out into the world and start to see things from a vastly different perspective.

My advice to you would be to at least give drugs a chance. Try them before you knock them. Find out what works best for you. If it turns out you do like them (and you just might) good for you, but don't go overboard. That's not something I advocate at all.

Um, eh, you know what, sorry but I don't think so. Believe you me, my school's got enablers out the wazoo, more than one I'm even friendly with. I wouldn't have to try all that hard to try drugs, but I'm not gonna do it. I got my principles. Plus it's also against the law, and I really, really don't want to get in trouble.

On the part I underlined, I'm glad you said that, because like I said before there's a difference between using and abusing.

And if you don't like them, it's a non-issue. It really is. Like you said, you're not a bad guy, people will still be friends with you.

Yeah I know, forgive me a little drama. And thank you.

I have plenty of friends, and I don't drink, smoke pot, or leave the house without having to more than once a week. So you'll be fine. But in case you aren't, you can always sit alone in your bedroom, crying, while listening to "All by myself" over and over. Really helps chase the blues away.

My version of "All By Myself" is actually a pretty hoppin' song.

Cheech and chong made pot look good!

Wow what a profound observation.

Likewise i feel sorry for people that insist on going somewhere with friends in order to have fun. If the act of being with your friends isn't enough to bring you pleasure then you either need better friends or need to develop yourself.

Hold the phone Jack, going out to a restaurant or a concert or whatever is something to pity? I don't think so.

 

[Elta]

Come on... Not even a little bit? That I don't buy. Well either way, I feel being somebody who doesn't do drugs is a part of who I am, and I'd rather not change that even if being someone who does drugs isn't a part of who you are.

That is like saying someone who grills themselves one big 16 ounce steak every month is a stake head. "he does it all the time, he needs it!".
Seriously the mild high you get from smoking marijuana is nothing more mind altering or personality dependent than eating food is.

I know you can't see it that way because of what you have been told over and over again. But it doesn't change what happens when someone actually smokes marijuana. No matter how much they tell you.



Here is my triumph card. What is the most mind altering event in a man's life that can happen more than once?

The answer is clear. An orgasm. All the time men are trying to keep their women in check or please them (what ever works for that girl or your style really) why? So they can keep getting laid.

The only moment of true clarity a man ever has in life is when he rolls off of his female after climaxing, because it is the only 30 second segment in life when he is truly unclouded by trying to get laid.


An orgasm is a million times more mood altering than marijuana. Are people who achieve orgasms in their own little section of malfunctioning society?

 

[Mowque]

The only moment of true clarity a man ever has in life is when he rolls off of his female after climaxing, because it is the only 30 second segment in life when he is truly unclouded by trying to get laid.

I'm not always trying to get laid. I often peruse activates utterly diffident or even *gasp* opposed to it.

 

[Elta]

I'm not always trying to get laid. I often peruse activates utterly diffident or even *gasp* opposed to it.

As someone with a associates in Anthropology I know this is a lie.

Everything in life is to impress the opposite sex (or same). Even if you don't notice it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW8vZEF4UA0

It has nothing to do with getting any chick. But the chick.

All of the studying and little moves in life you make are about moving up in social status. And it all had to do with women. Women = offspring in the long run.

Everything life is, is about reproducing.

Actually trying to successfully reproduce is the meaning of life.

 

[Bigfoot3814]

Thirdly, I have 3 good friends who are "squares" they didn't dance or drink. We hung out for a while never inviting them out with the rest of the group when we went "out out" i.e. to party. We finally took them when they keep asking. Before a few girls got them to drink. Just a few drinks.

Now In all seriousness when I go out on a real hard party night; lets say a good friends birthday. (no exaggeration) Over a period of 8 hours (includes pregaming and the last 2 hours or so where I am not drinking in order to insecure no hang over) I have around 20 drinks........ I get smashed. Not everyone should do that. It is a personality thing. I am the life of the party and not the driver + I never party foul when I get really tore up. ..... like some people. My BAC is usually around 0.20 .... You will see how I know below.

Sweet Jesus man, I'm no doctor that can't be healthy.

The reason I say sober people are a buzz kill is because totally sober people can not stand people who are smashed. I know, and everyone else who drinks knows the feeling of getting to a party ate when everyone is drink and feeling like they are all idiots. Then they drink a lot to catch up .
If you are totally sober the whole time you will just sit there thinking "what a bunch of idiots" And you will give off bad vibes, people will notice.

Right. That's probably why I'd rather not be in that kind of situation.

Third. About the drinks. Unless you are from a ultra strict Christan family, there is no reason why you won't take a drink other than fear.

That's not true at all. I'm not afraid of going skydiving but does that mean I need to?

I know was convinced alcohol was the root of all evil until I was 14.

I don't and have never thought alcohol was the root of all evil. My parents drink every single day.

There is nothing wrong with going out for lets say 5 hours to a party and having 6-10 drinks (as a full grown man anyway)

No there isn't. There's also nothing wrong with wanting mayonnaise on your sandwich, but I don't want any of that mayonnaise on my sandwich. Get it away from my sandwich.

It is a normal part of life. Weed, fine what ever. Just tell people that they randomly drug test at work and you won't hear anything.

Yeah see, if not drinking or smoking weed are really OK then why should I have to lie?

If you are afraid to have even 6-10 drinks ..... a most normal of western things. (even Hiliary Clinton took two triple shots of Bourbon at a bar while campaigning!) Then in effect it makes you look weak.

Oh yeah? Really? Not drinking is the hard unpopular way man, having your 6-10 drinks is the path of least resistance.

I know damn well that if you were at a party at lets say my house and there were 50-70 people there. The dj was spinning music you like and some very pretty girl dragged you off to dance you would. If she then grabbed your hand and said "lets go take a shot" You would. Because you can see that everyone else is having fun and not acting too stupid and you wouldn't want to look like a wussie.

I know it and you know it.

I dunno, I'd like to think I wouldn't. Any girl whose liking me hinged on whether or not I would take a shot with her probably isn't worth my time anyway. But if you're talking about giving in to pressure I've been there. You wouldn't believe how some people give me crap sometimes for not drinking or smoking weed. "Why ya such a hardass Bill? You do everything the man tells you?" Forget them. Some even say stuff like "You're a cool guy Bill, I wish you'd smoke with me!" Now that's a whole different kind of pressure.

And I'm no dummy Elta, I can look around me and see the guys who are popular and have all the hot girlfriends, they're all the druggies and drunkies. But it's about me being myself.

Oh yeah, and for anybody who thinks I'm a weak wussy man I'd be happy kick your ass.

You're 17 dude. I would bet everything I own on you having a drink by the time you are 21, unless you are much more scared than I though.

I can't see into the future but I just kind of doubt it. It's just not me.

The only words I would have to describe a younger cousin of mine who was 17 and didn't drink at all would be shame. Great Shame. A waste of youth really.

Well I'm sorry you feel that way.

 

[holy king]

Actually trying to successfully reproduce is the meaning of life.

i'm not sure if you can call a system-imminent mechanism the meaning of said system.

 

[Elta]

1. Sweet Jesus man, I'm no doctor that can't be healthy.


2. Right. That's probably why I'd rather not be in that kind of situation.

That's not true at all. I'm not afraid of going skydiving but does that mean I need to?

3. I don't and have never thought alcohol was the root of all evil. My parents drink every single day.

4. No there isn't. There's also nothing wrong with wanting mayonnaise on your sandwich, but I don't want any of that mayonnaise on my sandwich. Get it away from my sandwich.

Yeah see, if not drinking or smoking weed are really OK then why should I have to lie?

5. Oh yeah? Really? Not drinking is the hard unpopular way man, having your 6-10 drinks is the path of least resistance.


6. I dunno, I'd like to think I wouldn't. Any girl whose liking me hinged on whether or not I would take a shot with her probably isn't worth my time anyway. But if you're talking about giving in to pressure I've been there. You wouldn't believe how some people give me crap sometimes for not drinking or smoking weed. "Why ya such a hardass Bill? You do everything the man tells you?" Forget them. Some even say stuff like "You're a cool guy Bill, I wish you'd smoke with me!" Now that's a whole different kind of pressure.

7. And I'm no dummy Elta, I can look around me and see the guys who are popular and have all the hot girlfriends, they're all the druggies and drunkies. But it's about me being myself.

8. Oh yeah, and for anybody who thinks I'm a weak wussy man I'd be happy kick your ass.

9. I can't see into the future but I just kind of doubt it. It's just not me.

10. Well I'm sorry you feel that way.

1. It's not like I am stumbling around like an incoherent jackass.
Getting drunk slowly through out the night and making sure you do not get a hang over are fine arts.

2. To each his own.

3. Actually that sounds odd to me, I only drink twice 3 times a month tops. I only really drink heavy (15 - 20) 4 or 5 times a year. I never drink at all outside of hanging with my friends, I am 21 too.

4. Weed to each his own. Most of my friends do not smoke weed, none of the females actually. Alcohol is a critical part of social interaction in modern western society. It is okay if you don't want to drink, but it debilitating to your social life.

5. I am talking about your liver and generally physical toughness. In nature your moral character is irrelevant to the safety of people who depend on you to protect them. People do not like to hang with people who are so nervous at the idea of being in a normal social situation (such as drinking). Nervousness is equated with fear and weakness. In the back of their head people all want to be able to think that "my friends are not a bunch of pansies and I know they would march through the gates of hell with me".

6. Girls do not like guys who are unwilling to be even a little bit on "the edge".
"He is too nervous to even take a shot of alcohol, he will clearly be a good provider" Girls do not think in absolute terms like that, but on a subconscious instinctual level they do. It is no different than in business, if you are too afraid to take a risk you will never get a head.

7. The druggies and drunks eh?
Females like guys who have their stuff together. A good job,education etc
What ever is important to them. If he can actually loosen up and be the life of the party that is a + too. Someone who can demonstrate himself as someone with personality is another part of being a good provider and success. I and a lot of people like me work 4 jobs and go to school full time.
On the weekend we like to drink with our friends and smoke a J every once in a while. That doesn't make you any where a alcoholic or pothead. Girls do not like guys who are crackheads or heroin addicts. They tend to be bums.
You can be yourself without living in constant fear of normal things.

8. I've been doing Mixed martial arts for over 14 years, I highly doubt you could take me . I would be more than happy to have a sparing match with you or anyone else on the forum for sport though. Seriously not something with malice or anything, but a regular sparing match. It would be fun, let me know if you're in vegas. Actually even if you don't want to spar and want to train I can get you some free lessons at my school if you want. If you want to take the class I help teach it will be with 12 to 16 year olds though.

9. Keep me posted on how college goes for you

10. You'll see the light, I am confident of it.

 

[Elta]

i'm not sure if you can call a system-imminent mechanism the meaning of said system.

The reason people reproduced and made you was in hopes that you would reproduce and carry those genes even farther.


........ It's pretty simple really.


Unless you are someone who thinks human beings are not animals like a religious type or something of that sort.

 

[holy king]

i have to agree with everything elta said.

The reason people reproduced and made you was in hopes that you would reproduce and carry those genes even farther.

no, no, i agree with you, i was just arguing your use of the word "meaning".
purpose yes, but meaning? i dont know.

 

[Elta]

i have to agree with everything elta said.



no, no, i agree with you, i was just arguing your use of the word "meaning".
purpose yes, but meaning? i dont know.

Ah, okay.

The discussion of the existence of life and how it came about or why existence exist is another discussion altogether

 

[Irish Caesar]

I have thought about it and you know it makes me kind of sad. I mean you gave it to me pretty straight in one of the other threads, saying it would be pretty hard to have any friends in the years ahead unless I drink or smoke pot or whatever. And I know I can't exist as the only sober guy in a group with a bunch of drunk and high people, you said yourself that sobriety in that situation is anti-social.

It makes me sad because I don't think I should have to change who I am to get along in this world. I'm not a bad guy at all. And I'll tell you Elta, I've been there, and loneliness is everything it's cracked up to be. And it hurts to hear stuff like that.

Bigfoot, my man, I'm going to disagree with what they've been telling you. You don't need to drink or smoke or anything. If you don't, friends will respect you as long as you don't have any problems with them doing what they like. I can tell that you're not the type who'd make a big deal out of it, so you'll be fine.



The only problem is if you're "that guy" who makes a big deal out of not drinking anything and makes everyone else uncomfortable about it. I know you're not "that guy."

Aww man don't get down on yourself. No matter what path in life you choose, be it sobriety or getting tore up on a regular basis, you'll have friends. There are lots of people out there like you who have no desire to get drunk or stoned and do just fine.

No one really cares if you do one way or the other. I'll give you a tip even. If you're going to a party where you know people will be drinking, just keep an open drink with you at all times to blend in. No one will be the wiser.

That last one is pretty good advice if you're ever in that sort of situation.