AND2 and SVN Bug Reports - A New Dawn 2 ONLY

[luvencedus]

@dbkblk Yeah I now, but I tested shipdit's save named "oops" and this save also crashed for me.

 

[dbkblk]

@luvencedus: Oh ok. Then my setup is different. My computer is currently set to Russian, I'll set it back to French to test. I also fixed signs display, which may fix this (the fix is not released yet).
Try to change language (f.e. Polish) and reload your savegame, just to try. EDIT: When changing to English, I don't have a crash neither. This is your save, at next turn: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/369241/luvencedus_Assurbanipal AD-1697.zip

@Afforess: How to debug a recurrent crash for others that does not crash for me ? Any idea?

 

[shipdit]

Just a thought: does anyone know for sure whether a 2GB machine can handle a large (one up from standard) map, and if not, would it be expected to CtD somewhere around 2200BC on the slowest game speed?

 

[luvencedus]

@dbkblk Thank you, but this save also has CTD on turn end :C
I tried to change language, but it doesn't help.

 

[Afforess]

@Afforess: How to debug a recurrent crash for others that does not crash for me ? Any idea?

It didn't crash for you because your game settings were not the same as the players. Specifically, you had max units per tile on, and they did not.

 

[Afforess]

Just a thought: does anyone know for sure whether a 2GB machine can handle a large (one up from standard) map, and if not, would it be expected to CtD somewhere around 2200BC on the slowest game speed?

Even if you computer can't handle a map size, you should not see it crash, you should see it run the game very slowly.

The only time a crash might occur is if you graphics card can not handle the number of units in the game, which causes a separate crash that informs you of a MAF (memory allocation failure), and then crashes. A crash to desktop w/o an error message is a always, always, a bug.

 

[shipdit]

Afforess, you da man. Loaded a couple of my earlier saves, turned on max units per tile - hey presto, no CtDs.

 

[Afforess]

Afforess, you da man. Loaded a couple of my earlier saves, turned on max units per tile - hey presto, no CtDs.

Or simply update. Latest revisions should fix it.

 

[dbkblk]

@Afforess: Thank you to have fixed this. I thought BUG options were saved into the savegame!? Most of the time, when I load savegames from players it changes all my options.
I will write the "profile" system for the launcher so we can easily recreate the same environment as the player.

 

[shipdit]

@dbkblk: I got the impression some/most/all (?) BUG settings are saved seperately. If you start a new game with some changed BUG settings, take a few turns, save the game, then provoke a CtD so that Civ does not exit cleanly, when you reload your saved game, your changed BUG settings have been lost. Unless I'm mistaken.

 

[dbkblk]

@shipdit: All BUGs settings are also saved in UserSettings/ but when you load a savegame with others settings, some are overwritten.

 

[masaykh]

i have 3 dart thrower, i selected them and pushed upgrade to spearmen and all three of the, upgraded for 90 gold...

 

[dbkblk]

@team: Is there a problem with realistic timescale ? When I simulate a game (AIAutoplay) in quick speed, I've already discovered Flintlock at 654 BC.

Savegame:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/369241/flintlock_650BC.zip

EDIT: This is because "Can trade civ is ON" and I haven't noticed. I hate that setting :x

@masaykh: Could you provide a savegame ? That was precisely the python error I wanted to fix yesterday but I couldn't find my savegame.

 

[shipdit]

@dbkblk: isn't that half the fun of it? While your example is a bit extreme, if we're playing what-if scenarios with human history, what if we hadn't spent the best part of a thousand years believing that science was heresy?

Seriously though, I couldn't say, I always have realistic timescale off.

With regard to balancing in general, I don't envy whoever has that task. When so much depends on luck of the draw with the map, where do you even start?

 

[45°38'N-13°47'E]

@team: Is there a problem with realistic timescale ? When I simulate a game (AIAutoplay) in quick speed, I've already discovered Flintlock at 654 BC.
.

I've also noticed some strange behaviour since Afforess changed part of the code; I need to look at it again. Also Flexible AI isn't working properly yet.

 

[dbkblk]

And what if we removed the date on the interface ? What does it bring to the game if turns are already there ?

 

[shipdit]

@dbkblk: Good point.

 

[masaykh]

it is savegame i uploaded yesterday

 

[45°38'N-13°47'E]

And what if we removed the date on the interface ? What does it bring to the game if turns are already there ?

It's been already proposed and discarded. Some players don't like the idea (I'm one of them to tell the truth)

 

[Arakhor]

The date is part of the fun. Just don't take it too seriously.