Anonymous hacks Senate website

[GoodGame]

Another fail of a thread title. Lulzec has clearly separated themselves from Anonymous by adopting their own identity.

Also screw them they keep releasing the usernames, e-mails and passwords of the users of those websites. They do it for the attention.

it could just be a devious plot, like a cover-up for some paramilitary organization to pose as a bunch of code kiddies.

 

[Grisu]

Dudes, I really think Anonymous and Lulsec are two separate organizations

is the word 'organization' even applicable for Anonymous and the likes?

 

[Mise]

More like "chatroom".

 

[warpus]

is the word 'organization' even applicable for Anonymous and the likes?

Probably not, but it's easier to say than "loose-knit association" or whatever

 

[Grisu]

it's that I find it hilarious that the media/politicians constantly seems to try to picture them as some sinister organisation - preferrably with some cat-petting guy at the helm.

 

[bhsup]

An attack upon the Senate is an attack upon the Republic. The people doing this need to be treated as either spies or illegal combatants, assuming they had no nation-state backing. They need to be found by our military or intelligence services and dealt with.

And no, I am not kidding. These people just attacked our country.

 

[warpus]

An attack upon the Senate is an attack upon the Republic. The people doing this need to be treated as either spies or illegal combatants, assuming they had no nation-state backing. They need to be found by our military or intelligence services and dealt with.

And no, I am not kidding. These people just attacked our country.

Wounded pride aside, aren't there far more important things for your military and intelligence services to be doing than going after some kids?

 

[Zelig]

They just need to treat hacking secure websites the same as robbing banks and the same punishments to match.

No, they need to pay their IT people more so they attract competent staff.

 

[Aegis]

Lulz is a reference to internet-speak for "laugh out loud".

No, "Lulz" is a term used for people trolling on purpose in order to elicit an extreme reaction so that they can laugh at it.

"I did it for the lulz" = "I did it so I could laugh at how angry they become."

 

[Cutlass]

An attack upon the Senate is an attack upon the Republic. The people doing this need to be treated as either spies or illegal combatants, assuming they had no nation-state backing. They need to be found by our military or intelligence services and dealt with.

And no, I am not kidding. These people just attacked our country.

Do you think that people who can hack government and business computers regularly can't disguise where they are doing it from?

 

[The_J]

is this an act of war, gentlemen? Problem?" it added.

Link

So should be expecting some missiles in their smokestacks soon?

I wonder how that will work with the war declaration, and if that is the case for the NATO, triggering the defensive pact...

 

[bhsup]

Do you think that people who can hack government and business computers regularly can't disguise where they are doing it from?

Do you think murderers and rapists cannot hide from the cops? Doesn't mean every effort shouldn't be made to find them.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

Is this an act of war, gentlemen? Problem?

 

[Cutlass]

Do you think murderers and rapists cannot hide from the cops? Doesn't mean every effort shouldn't be made to find them.

Sure. I agree. But it's a police matter. Not a military matter. If the intelligence services can forward some helpful info, that's fine. So long as they do it within the letter of the law. What we don't need to add to the mix is commando raids.

 

[Aegis]

Sure. I agree. But it's a police matter. Not a military matter. If the intelligence services can forward some helpful info, that's fine. So long as they do it within the letter of the law. What we don't need to add to the mix is commando raids.

It's more than a police matter - it's a national security matter.

 

[Cutlass]

It's more than a police matter - it's a national security matter.

Some of it is, some of it isn't. But it's still a police matter to arrest and prosecute for crimes. Not a military matter for "taking them out". As I said above, there's a role for the intelligence services in getting information for the police to act on. And there's a role for other parts of the government in securing the systems against the hackers. But actually going after them once identified, that's a police issue.

 

[sophie]

Do you think murderers and rapists cannot hide from the cops? Doesn't mean every effort shouldn't be made to find them.

I would like to point out, or at least what it appears like from the article, is that the only reason the government even found out about it in the first place is because Lulzsec posted the documents online. Would the government have even known about it if it weren't for this?

 

[Aegis]

Some of it is, some of it isn't. But it's still a police matter to arrest and prosecute for crimes. Not a military matter for "taking them out". As I said above, there's a role for the intelligence services in getting information for the police to act on. And there's a role for other parts of the government in securing the systems against the hackers. But actually going after them once identified, that's a police issue.

It would be better to refer to the responding agency as "Law Enforcement" as I am sure the FBI and the NSA would be involved.

 

[Cutlass]

It would be better to refer to the responding agency as "Law Enforcement" as I am sure the FBI and the NSA would be involved.

Semantics

 

[Aegis]

Semantics

The police are local, the FBI are federal/national.

[Edit:] I think that it is an important distinction because an FBI investigation is a more serious matter for an individual.