Another thread about cannabis! (devil's lettuce as it is known by true 'murricans)

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Hmm...turns out that what the stoners have known for a long time is true, and has been proven to be true for the umpteen millionth time! The gateway drug theory is pretty half baked:

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Sept. 2, 2010 -- New research finds little support for the hypothesis that marijuana is a "gateway" drug leading to the use of harder drugs in adulthood.

Teens in the study who smoked marijuana were more likely to go on to use harder illicit drugs, but the gateway effect was lessened by the age of 21, investigators say.

Harder drugs in the study referred to illicit drugs that include analgesics, cocaine, hallucinogens, heroin, inhalants, sedatives, stimulants, and tranquilizers.

The study is published in the September issue of the Journal of Health and Social Behavior.

Failure to graduate from high school or find a job were all bigger predictors of drug use in young adulthood than marijuana use during adolescence, says study researcher Karen Van Gundy, who is a sociologist at the University of New Hampshire.

She adds that the findings have implications for policymakers on the front lines in the war on drugs.

"If we overly criminalize behaviors like marijuana use among teens, this could interfere with opportunities for education and employment later on, which, in turn, could be creating more drug use," she tells WebMD.
Marijuana's Gateway Effect Goes Away

Van Gundy says she did not set out to disprove the idea that marijuana is a gateway drug when she and co-researcher Cesar J. Rebellon examined survey data from 1,300 mostly male Hispanic, white, and African-American young adults who attended south Florida public schools in the 1990s. The participants were followed from enrollment in the sixth or seventh grade until they reached their late teens or early 20s.

"Most of the previous research has examined early drug use among people with serious drug problems," she says. "These people do tend to progress from alcohol and marijuana use to other drugs."

When the teens in the study were followed forward into young adulthood, however, a different picture emerged.

"We were somewhat surprised to find the gateway effect wasn't that strong during the transition to adulthood," Van Gundy says. "It really didn't matter if someone used marijuana or not as a teen."

Specifically, the study found illicit drug abuse in young adulthood to be much more closely linked to stress during the teen years and whether or not the young adults were employed.

"Assuming and occupying conventional roles, such as 'worker,' may close the marijuana gateway by modifying and redirecting substance use trajectories," the researchers write.

The Fight Against Drugs

The findings suggest anti-drug efforts aimed at keeping kids in school and providing employment opportunities may have the biggest positive impact on drug use in adulthood, Van Gundy says.

Urban sociologist and drug-use researcher Lesley Reid agrees.

An associate professor of sociology at Georgia State University in Atlanta, Reid's research has focused on the gateway effect of so-called club drugs like ecstasy and cocaine among heavy drug users in their 20s.

She says most of these heavy users do start with alcohol and marijuana and progress to harder drugs.

"Obviously, we don't see this age effect among these heavy users," she tells WebMD. "But in the general population most people do outgrow behaviors like drug use and other delinquent behaviors."
'Gateway' Pioneer Critical of Study

But Columbia University sociologist Denise B. Kandel, PhD, whose research early in the decade found marijuana to be a gateway drug, calls the new research highly flawed and the conclusions "ill founded."

She tells WebMD that the design of the study did not allow the researchers to properly test the hypothesis that marijuana is a gateway drug.

Kandel does not disagree with the conclusion that social position in young adulthood plays a big role in drug use during this time. But she says the researchers fail to consider the potential impact of early marijuana use on social position.

"Using marijuana as a teen can certainly have an impact on whether or not someone fails to graduate from high school or gets a job," she says. "And this increases the risk of persistent illicit drug use."

So, whaddya know. Marijuana use in and of itself has little bearing if any at all on whether people use harder drugs. The real determinants are stresses in life, lack of education and lack of employment. Thus, by criminalizing people for using marijuana and making it harder for them to find jobs later in life, we're probably contributing to hard drug use. Thanks DEA!

Now for another interesting bit of news:

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Marijuana may relieve nerve pain when other drugs don't.

Smoking cannabis, also known as marijuana, reduced pain in patients with nerve pain stemming from injuries or surgical complications, new research shows.

Twenty-one adults with chronic nerve pain were taught to take a single inhalation of 25 milligrams of cannabis through a pipe, three times a day, for five days. The cannabis contained one of three levels of potency of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active ingredient in marijuana, as well as a placebo dosage containing no THC.

All of the patients rotated through each of the four dosages, with nine days of no smoking in between.

Patients smoking the highest potency marijuana (9.4%) reported less pain than those smoking samples containing no THC. Patients also reported better sleep and less anxiety, according to the Canadian study.

On an 11-point scale, the average daily pain intensity was 6.1 for those smoking 9.4% THC concentration, compared to 5.4 for those smoking cannabis containing no THC.

"Patients have repeatedly made claims that smoked cannabis helps to treat pain, but the issue for me had always been the lack of clinical research to support that claim," said Dr. Mark Ware, director of clinical research at the Alan Edwards Pain Management Unit of the McGill University Health Centre in Montreal. In this small but randomized, controlled trial, "the pain reductions were modest, but significant," he said. "And it was in people for whom nothing else worked."

The study is published in the Aug. 30 issue of the Canadian Medical Association Journal.

Persistent nerve pain, clinically known as neuropathy, can be very difficult to treat, Ware said. These patients had tried other treatments for neuropathy, such as opioids, anticonvulsants, antidepressants and local anesthetics, with little relief, Ware said.

In addition, the THC potency levels used in the study were kept at 2.5%, 6% and 9% — considerably less than the 12% to 15% often found in marijuana sold on the street, Ware said.

Researchers kept the levels low for two reasons, Ware explained. One was to minimize the psychoactive effects, such as feeling lightheaded, dizzy, detached, nauseous or euphoric. Secondly, because this was a randomized, controlled clinical trial, minimizing the obvious signs of being "high" helped keep participants in the dark about what potency they were smoking.

In an accompanying commentary, Dr. Henry McQuay, a professor in the chronic pain unit at Oxford University in England, called the study well-designed, adding that it provides more evidence cannabis can help relieve pain.

But the unwanted side effects of cannabis can be significant, McQuay said.

"If you regard each paper like a brick in a wall, we have a number of studies, including this one, that suggest some pain patients are helped by cannabis," McQuay said. "The usual caveat is, 'Do the side effects to the nervous system outweigh the benefits, if they have to push the dose?'"

In his experience working with pain patients, few have seen long-term benefits of smoked cannabis, he said. Most find morphine and other painkillers more effective.

Side effects are a real problem with using smoked cannabis, Ware said. While recreational users are seeking an altered state of mind, research shows that legitimate medical marijuana users are not looking to get high. Instead, they only want to smoke what they need to reduce their pain so they can work and function more normally.

Efforts to legalize marijuana for medical purposes has been controversial in the United States. While federal law prohibits marijuana use, in 1996, California became the first state to legalize medical marijuana usage with a prescription from a doctor. More than a dozen states have followed suit.

Yet under the Bush administration, dispensaries continued to be raided under federal law. After President Barack Obama took office, in March, 2009, the U.S. Department of Justice announced it would no longer conduct raids on medical marijuana dispensaries, as long as the dispensaries were abiding by their own state laws.

Medical marijuana is legal in Canada.

To minimize the risks of smoke to the lungs, THC could be delivered through a vaporizer, in which the plant resin containing THC is heated to the point that the oils are released in a mist, Ware said. Oral THC is another possibility, though getting dosages right has proved problematic.

Turns out, marijuana relieves nerve pain, one of the hardest types of pain to alleviate, when other drugs like opiates that doctors love to give out have no effect.

What do you CFCers make of this news?
 
Nah, many people choose to ignore the science.

Marijuana drives lots of people insane...lots of anti-drug crusaders that is.
 
I have to wonder how much of even the existing "gateway" drug effect is a result of the legal status of marijuana rather than its inherent chemical properties.
 
It won't hurt the legalization movement, if that's what you're getting at.

It's not just the science about marijuana's effects that prohibitionists choose to ignore, but the demonstrated societal results of loosening marijuana laws as well. It's been shown time and time again in many different places that loosening marijuana penalties doesn't lead to more widespread use, doesn't lead to harder drug use (in fact, it often leads to reduced hard drug use), and in fact reduces crime, violence and saves money for law enforcement.

Oh well.
 
Weed is for women, real men smoke Tobacco.

Lol, real men must have a desire for emphysema and lung cancer and a host of other maladies...:p
 
I have to wonder how much of even the existing "gateway" drug effect is a result of the legal status of marijuana rather than its inherent chemical properties.

It has everything to do with legal status.

The thought that because someone uses one chemical that they inherently desire another stronger chemical has always been dumb.

Every kid in America drinks milk as a kid, and some go on to drink and smoke weed. Ban milk!
 
Weed is for women, real men smoke Tobacco.

Real men do both


On topic, we already knew the gateway theory was correlation rather than causation anyway. In other news, bought some weed last night for the first time in a while... good god i missed that stuff
 
Let's just get it over with and legalize this stuff already!
 
Oh yeah, well think about how many people get thrown in jail for having marijuana! See it ruins peoples' lives! And therefore it must be illegal.
 
The government should legalize and tax it. As well they should sell vaporizers at discount for those who turn in their current stash. Why vaporizers? You don't get the carcinogenics that are in cannabis smoke (all smoke for that matter). Or teach them how to properly prepare it for baking to kill any harmful fungal growth.
 
It should be legal for the sole reason that no one has given me a logical explanation for why I shouldn't be able to get high and play assassin's creed.
 
:agree: with everything above this post. Except the real men smoke tobacco bit, only wannabies want to be that. REAL MEN SMOKE WEED AND DRINK VODKA.
 
real men have a few puffs of weed, a couple of cigarettes a day, drink responsibly, and make love to one woman at a time.
 
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