Antifa rocks!

[Lexicus]

then your response requires more thought

Well folks we've reached Peak Irony here

 

[Berzerker]

maybe you can help him out, did racists have good reason to attack Reginald Denny and Asian shop owners?

oh wait, that racism isn't worth talking about, right?

 

[Bugfatty300]

It's still amazing to me that some people believe you must find fault with one party or the other, exclusively, rather than consider that both parties collaborated to achieve mutually undesirable ends. Anyways, the jury wanted to give her an actual sentence, Strife.

Generally you'd reserve this "blame both parties" attitude for more extreme circumstances:

"They threatened to kill my family if I didn't pay back the loan so I shot them in the back after they turned to leave" -- this would be an example.

"The kid was stealing a juice so I shot him in them back after they turned to leave" -- this would not. Clearly there is a victim and there is a murderer

 

[Rashiminos]

One more than the other.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

She was a 15 year old girl

 

[Lexicus]

She was a 15 year old girl

You know this reminds me of something...can't quite put my finger on it...oh yeah, black teenager getting shot by a violent racist and then racists blaming the kid for his own death by implying both sides were equally at fault...

 

[Berzerker]

They were equally at fault?

Martin was killed after he attacked a neighborhood watch volunteer

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Ah yes, she committed the crime of being black in America.

 

[Rashiminos]

She was a 15 year old girl

She didn't get shot because she was a teenager.

 

[Lexicus]

she was killed shoplifting.

You are a lying piece of filth.

Du observed Harlins putting a bottle of orange juice in her backpack. Du concluded Harlins was attempting to steal, and did not see the money Harlins held in her hand. Du claimed to have asked Harlins if she intended to pay for the orange juice, to which Du claimed Harlins responded, "What orange juice?" Two eyewitnesses disputed that claim, saying that Du called Harlins a "[female dog]" and accused her of trying to steal, to which they claimed Harlins replied that she intended to pay for the orange juice.[3] After speaking with the two eyewitnesses present and viewing the videotape of the incident, recorded by a store security camera, the police concluded that Harlins intended to pay for the beverage.[4][5] The videotape showed that Du grabbed Harlins by her sweater and snatched her backpack. Harlins then struck Du with her fist three times, knocking Du to the ground. After Harlins backed away, Du threw a stool at her. Harlins then picked up the orange juice bottle that dropped during the scuffle, Du snatched the bottle from her, and Harlins turned to leave. Du reached under the counter, retrieved a handgun, and fired at Harlins from behind at a distance of about three feet (one meter).

 

[Cloud_Strife]

She didn't get shot because she was a teenager.

Indeed, it was because she was black.

 

[Rashiminos]

Did the eyewitnesses dispute the drink having been placed in the bags?

Indeed, it was because she was black.

Do black teenage girls act substantially different from other teenage girls?

 

[Lexicus]

Did the eyewitnesses dispute the drink having been placed in the bags?

If the pre-riots Los Angeles Police concluded that she wasn't intending to shoplift the drink, I think we can take that conclusion as definitive.

 

[Rashiminos]

If the Los Angeles Police in the 1990s concluded that she wasn't intending to shoplift the drink, I think we can take that conclusion as definitive.

That is a conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances, not a critique of specific actions and reactions.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

The shopkeeper escalated it and physically grabbed her, in what world is the child at fault for trying to get away?

 

[Rashiminos]

The shopkeeper escalated it and physically grabbed her, in what world is the child at fault for trying to get away?

The shopkeeper did escalate. According to the wiki page, her first reaction after the grab was to start punching. That was not disputed afaict.

 

[Lexicus]

That is a conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances, not a critique of specific actions and reactions.

Actually it appears to be a conclusion based on a review of surveillance footage and interviews of eyewitnesses.

Also what kind of fudging psycho shoots someone over an orange juice even if she was trying to steal it?

 

[Cloud_Strife]

The shopkeeper did escalate. According to the wiki page, her first reaction was to start punching. That was not disputed afaict.

Would you say that Latasha was no angel?

 

[Rashiminos]

Would you say that Latasha was no angel?

No, I'd say she was tragically inconsiderate.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

No, I'd say she was tragically inconsiderate.

So if someone was to grab you and your bag you wouldn't seek to defend yourself?