Appropriate reactions

[CavLancer]

Make it yourself ya lazy %$##*&! Oh and Hi! Birdjaguar...

On topic, we will also have the hottest first lady of all time. People could vote for the husband of Ivana or whatever her name is, of they could vote for Hillary. Ivana is a babe, Hillary...well need I go on?

 

[KmDubya]

Everyone who keeps talking about how everything is going to be fine, you're blind.

Let's take the most optimistic view on a Trump presidency. No additional wars, Trump surprisingly doesn't destroy free speech for the press, etc... But what he will do, what consitutes a major part of his program (and of his appeal) is his promise to refuse the Paris agreement and make the US go back on the track of fossile energy. Coal and oil.

Many scientists think the the Paris agreement is too little too late. But it's something. It might slow down climate change enough that we find a way to manage it later on. It's also a good first try, upon which it will be possible to have other agreements in order to save our planet. But if the US's CO2 production increases dramatically over the next 4 years, along with a refusal by its government to participate in any attempt at salvaging the earth, it will take at least a decade before progress can be made again. And I mean a decade after Trump leaves office. And 2030 (at best) WILL be too late.

Climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese right ? From now on you won't find me weeping whenever a hurricane hits the American south.

I can only gleefully imagine the amount of butt hurt crying that will be occurring here on these forums when President Trump nominates Sarah Palin as the new Secretary of Energy JUST DRILL BABY!!!!

Its time someone stood up against these pagan dirt worshipers of Gaia who invented this whole man made climate change. No more Green boondoggles like Solyandra and all the other Green energy scams.

Just found out my ex voted for Trump. I'm not sure how I feel about her now. She's still my friend. But it's shocking a latina could even vote for Trump, but her step dad is real conservative, so it shouldn't be a shocker. She felt he may help get the country back in shape. But the country was never out of shape in my opinion. She's making the most money she has ever have in her life, and I too am making the most money I ever have in my life. I know money isn't everything, but it's a sign of doing well.

So what do you do about family members/significant others who voted for Trump?

So someone who is a member of a racial minority should know her place, stay on the plantation and do as she's told rather than make her own choice about what is good for the future of the USA? A leftist promoting lockstep obedience, say it ain't so

How does promoting criminals (violating immigration law is a crime) of any racial or cultural background to come here illegally help anyone? Illegal immigrants have no protection under the law and businesses that hire them take advantage of this. If the same workers were here in the USA legally they'd have better wages and be protected under the law. How is that not a better outcome than what we currently have?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Face the reality that the United States has failed. The solution to taxation without representation has become taxation without representation, so it is time for dissolution of the United States.

Those of us who watched our president be blocked at every turn by representatives of the rural Luddites not because they disagreed with (or even examined) what he was trying to do but just because they refused to participate have now lost the only check that we had on this mass of buffoons and can only expect disaster to result. Why should we allow ourselves to go down with that ship? It looks pretty clear right now that the west coast is responding with "he's not our president, it's not our government, screw it," and rightfully so.

Does anyone expect Dingbat Donny to find reconciliation with mobs that are currently burning him in effigy? Or will this end in violent confrontations?

 

[CaptainF]

Face the reality that the United States has failed. The solution to taxation without representation has become taxation without representation, so it is time for dissolution of the United States.

Those of us who watched our president be blocked at every turn by representatives of the rural Luddites not because they disagreed with (or even examined) what he was trying to do but just because they refused to participate have now lost the only check that we had on this mass of buffoons and can only expect disaster to result. Why should we allow ourselves to go down with that ship? It looks pretty clear right now that the west coast is responding with "he's not our president, it's not our government, screw it," and rightfully so.

Does anyone expect Dingbat Donny to find reconciliation with mobs that are currently burning him in effigy? Or will this end in violent confrontations?

I recently attended a party where we burned an effigy of Drumpf, made up out of a suit-patterned T-shirt, a set of sweat pants, tentacle hands and a Drumpf mask. We filled the torso with fireworks so as Donny burned, light and sound shows periodically flared up. It was beautiful. If only he would have burnt up at the ballot box as well...America is now Idiocracy.

 

[aelf]

This is an appropriate reaction for Trump supporters.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

They're not racists, just enjoying the relief from political correctness.

 

[KmDubya]

Face the reality that the United States has failed. The solution to taxation without representation has become taxation without representation, so it is time for dissolution of the United States.

Those of us who watched our president be blocked at every turn by representatives of the rural Luddites not because they disagreed with (or even examined) what he was trying to do but just because they refused to participate have now lost the only check that we had on this mass of buffoons and can only expect disaster to result. Why should we allow ourselves to go down with that ship? It looks pretty clear right now that the west coast is responding with "he's not our president, it's not our government, screw it," and rightfully so.

Does anyone expect Dingbat Donny to find reconciliation with mobs that are currently burning him in effigy? Or will this end in violent confrontations?

A peaceful dissolution of the United States is fine with me. The coastal and urban areas have little in common culturally with the rural and interior sections of the country. Agreeing to go our separate ways would allow both to live and be ruled by a culture of their own choosing.

By separating on amicable terms we can correct the unconstitutional actions of Lincoln and the War of Northern Aggression.

 

[Synobun]

A peaceful dissolution of the United States is fine with me. The coastal and urban areas have little in common culturally with the rural and interior sections of the country. Agreeing to go our separate ways would allow both to live and be ruled by a culture of their own choosing.

By separating on amicable terms we can correct the unconstitutional actions of Lincoln and the War of Northern Aggression.

I can't wait to own slaves again.

 

[AdrienIer]

the unconstitutional actions of Lincoln and the War of Northern Aggression.

Sometimes I forget how the south thinks...

 

[KmDubya]

Sometimes I forget how the south thinks...

Actually I was raised in Connecticut, but that does not change the fact that the Confederate States had the right to secede from the Union. Instead Lincoln forced a war by effectively saying one man one vote one time when it came to forming the US.

Rather than to have bitter elections where the other side tears down everything that the one side passed in its term of government, better to part ways peacefully. Thankfully Hillary lost because as stupid, arrogant and vengeful as she is, she'd have rammed her agenda down the throats of the people opposed to her and precipitated a violent revolution.

 

[warpus]

How would have Hillary rammed anything down anyone's throat with the Republicans controlling the House and Senate?

A violent revolution? In the U.S.? lol

 

[classical_hero]

Definitely anyone who is claiming they'll move to another country, but hasn't actually thought about and begun preparing for all the hard work that will involve, can be safely ignored. It's understandable that people will make emotional statements after an upset loss in something so high-stakes, though. I'd say we should just put up with those sorts of comments for the next few days but not engage them unless they're interesting or show signs of being serious.

Yeah, it takes a long time to emmigrate to country, so just corss the border illegally and it take no time at all.

I've gotta love all the head exploding, it's been great to watch. Trump certainly trolled very well in the last debate about not accepting the result, since so many aren't accepting the result are from the left.

 

[Quintillus]

Just found out my ex voted for Trump. I'm not sure how I feel about her now. She's still my friend. But it's shocking a latina could even vote for Trump, but her step dad is real conservative, so it shouldn't be a shocker. She felt he may help get the country back in shape. But the country was never out of shape in my opinion. She's making the most money she has ever have in her life, and I too am making the most money I ever have in my life. I know money isn't everything, but it's a sign of doing well.

So what do you do about family members/significant others who voted for Trump?

Disown/divorce them, of course!



OK, so maybe it's too early for that joke. But seriously, I would be very concerned if my significant other voted for Trump, as being able to vote for someone like Trump would mean some significant differences in values which would be cause for long-term concern. If it were just politics, whatever, but some of the racist, misogynistic things Trump have said mean I wouldn't want to be married/engaged to someone who supported that.

Family members, it depends a bit more. Quite a few people still have older relatives who have varying degrees of racist tendencies, and while it may be cringe-worthy, I don't think many people would stop inviting Grandma to Thanksgiving because she supported Trump. If it was more a sibling/cousin with a similar lifestyle, that might be a sign that maybe you don't discuss politics enough with them/they don't read enough about politics to be properly informed.

In my case, I don't know of any family members who supported Trump, and I've never seen my parents so interested nor heavily vested in a presidential candidate as Clinton, which I'm sure is due to Trump more than anything as they weren't especially interested in her in '08. And all my close Republican friends have said they voted third-party because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for someone with the personal behavior of Trump. But it does bother me somewhat that some of those friends' parents, who from all appearances are very nice and caring people, voted Trump. I know some of them would never vote Democrat due to their fiscal views, but I had thought that as religious, seemingly open-minded and tolerant people they would either vote Libertarian or not fill in the top spot on the ballot.

I also agree that I didn't think the country was out of shape. Yes, there are problems, but there always have been, and I think on the whole America still is great.

 

[warpus]

Definitely not an appropriate reaction:

Spoiler :

 

[CavLancer]

Wonderful, truly wonderful. Thank you warpus.

 

[Sonereal]

I think Glenn Beck posted a great opinion piece in the New York Times recently about this topic.

I think it is too early to make up our minds about Trump. As easy as it would be to rest entirely on what has been said during the election season, I have the inkling suspicion that Trump will reel back on a lot of his hardline positions.

The real problem I believe many people have is less with Trump than the groups Trump has enabled in recent months. That is a problem that he will need to address someday soon.

 

[warpus]

I think it is too early to make up our minds about Trump.

Too early? This guy has been in the spotlight for years.. maybe decades? He tweets like every single day, it's pretty easy to see what sort of person he is.

 

[Sonereal]

Too early? This guy has been in the spotlight for years.. maybe decades? He tweets like every single day, it's pretty easy to see what sort of person he is.

Anybody who has followed this election can't, at all, say Trump is predictable. We don't know what he will do in office because he's been almost wholly inconsistent about what he would actually do once in the White House.

If you know exactly what Trump will do once he is in the White House, consider sending your evidence to the NYT and WP. I'm sure they'll love you for it.

 

[warpus]

Obviously it's impossible to predict what a president-elect will do once he actually becomes president.

However, it is not too early to know what sort of person Trump is. You make it sound like he's some sort of unknown that nobody's known about until now. Nope, he's been around for decades. He's shown us what sort of person he is. I mean, yeah, it's possible he's secretly a tree-hugger and closeted homosexual, but it's a bit disingenuous to say "Yeah who knows, this could go either way, we don't really know this guy, I mean who is he really?"

 

[metalhead]

I guarantee you, there are two things he will try hard to do - Ivanka's family leave plan and a large infrastructure bill. He may publicly "try" to get funding for the wall, but I don't think that matters to him like the other 2.

How those fights work out for him will set the tone for his presidency.