Archive - price managers thread

[Strider]

Question:

Can a company that is already paid and everything sell a differant item?

IE:

S&E inc. wants to open a area where you can hire guards to guard/man you fortress/mansion/palace. Are they aloud to do that?

 

[Shaitan]

Originally posted by Strider
Question:

Can a company that is already paid and everything sell a differant item?

IE:

S&E inc. wants to open a area where you can hire guards to guard/man you fortress/mansion/palace. Are they aloud to do that?

The general rule is you can do evolutionary changes but not revolutionary ones. That is, a weapon shop could add long bows to their stock but couldn't add furniture as it doesn't fit with the business. You've also got to be careful not to go over the average price range your business had when it was set up. You are certainly allowed to do so buy you may need to pay additional setup fees.

That said, the Price Manager will have to let you know about your specific request.

 

[Shaitan]

AP&N is handling the business startup for the Fanatikan General Store.

Owner: gonzo_for_civ
Company: Fanatikan General Store
Type: Resale (1000)
Size: Personal (x1)
Expense: Avg cost <100 (x1)
Estimated startup cost: 0 (first business)
Description: General store to sell odds and ends showing off the pride of fanatikans. Also, to make available some of the necessities of life to fanatikans.

Fanatikan Stuffed Animal: 15g
Description: A fine, hand-woven animal, stuffed with only the finest Fanatikan cotton! Currently Available animals: Bear, Lion, Tiger, Dog(generic), puppy(generic), penguin, monkey, and last but not least the ocelet stuffed animal. These things will be big some day! Great for kids!

Fanatikan T-Shirt(available in 24 different colors!): 30g
Description: Another fine hand-woven peice made of 100% cotton right down to the thread! 24 colors available, the color choices are the 24 forum color choices.

Fanatikan Pants: 20g
Description: Fine long pants. Warm. Made out of a fine blend of cotton, denim, and polyester.

Fanatikan Pajama Bottoms: 25g
Description: Three words: Warm, Silk, SOFT!

Fanatikan Pajama Tops: 20g
Description: A hand crafted shirt made from pure silk. Made with only the finest Fanatikan Silk. A rare find indeed!

Fanatikan Bed-time Slippers: 10g
Description: What would bed-time be without some nice warm slippers to slip your feet into on a cold night? The answer is miserable and certainly we wouldn't want the fine citizens of fanatika to go w/out a basic necessity which is why our Bed-time slippers are only 10g for a pair! BUY TODAY!

Complete Fanatikan Pajama Set: 45g
Description: A complete bedtime set for the serious Fanatikan! This includes slippers, pajama tops and pajama bottoms. You get all this at a bargain price of 45g, a 10g savings!

Fanatikan Shoes: 35g
Description: Our last clothing item offered, made from fine leather and guranteed to last until you grow out of them!

Fanatikan Mug: 20g
Description: What better to show off your pride than a Mug that proudly states a custom message of your choice!

Fanatikan Walking Stick: 75g
Description: A fine walking stick custom carved from the trunk of a tree type of your choice! An excellent walking assistant but also a great collectors item! Sticks come with a diameter of 1.5" and a height of 8 feet. We can thin down/shorten the stick for free but it will cost and extra 5 gold to order a larger(either longer or thicker) stick for your walking pleasure! Please note that this high-cost symbol of wisdom is only for the finest citizens, if you do not wish to travel in the highest circles, do not bother! Walking sticks can be customized with the addition of gems/gold plating for a hefty fee to be determined depending on what you want.

Fanatikan Throw Rug: 50 gold*
Description: A fine throw rug made of real animal fur! *Cost is 50g unless you would like our special imported white tiger rug, which runs at 100g.

Fanatikan Handy Knife: 20g
Description: A high quality multipurpose knife w/free blade sharpener. Strong blade, guranteed for LIFE!

Fanatikan Towels!: 30g per set!
Description: It takes our weavers hours to fire up one set of these fine towels. Made from conditioned cotton for extra soft and absorbent comfort. All hand woven. Use it for anything around your house(if you are fortunate enough to have one!) or use it with your weekly bath!

*Fanatikan Pork Rinds*: 5g/bag.
Description: Yum! We all love pork rinds, but it's such a difficult process to make them right so why don't you buy them for a bargain price for only 5g per bag. In addition to this, You get 1 free bag of Fanatikan pork rinds per item bought(excluding pork rinds ) Special rate: 10 bags for 40g.

 

[donsig]

The Fanatikan General Store is approved .

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by Strider
Question:

Can a company that is already paid and everything sell a differant item?

IE:

S&E inc. wants to open a area where you can hire guards to guard/man you fortress/mansion/palace. Are they aloud to do that?

I took a look at the S&E *charter* and it seems to me that this would be too much of a departure from S&E's intended business area. I do not approve this. PM to follow to Strider and EA.

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

I am handling business for the bank here:
Fanatikan Commerce Center
A bank owned building, where businesses, such as APN and BPO can rent office space. Currently at a height of 30 stories, each floor has 1000 square feet of realestate to offer. Businesses are welcome to come do their business here.
Prices:
.2g/tc per squre foot rented.
If whole floor is bought, price is only 150g/tc.
If 500 square feet are purchased, price is 80g/tc.
All floors are unfurnished and in need of furniture.
Tower made of solid stone, with iron stairwells (more then two, since I know what happens with large towers and few stairwells).
Located in Barvaria.
Banks First Business, so 90g (yes, we do have profits- loan intake)
Privatly owned by Bank, CEO SaaM (30 free shares)
Please Aprove

 

[Great Iguanaman]

I would like to ask a question. Me and jdd2007, and his shareholders, have started a partnership. its pretty much just a new thread for the Iguanaman Dealership, but with a new name that me and jdd agreed on. I would like to register it here:

Land

All land vehicles must be maintaned here every10 days just come here and say you need maintanence. The fee is only 20g.

(x)- how many it seats

The Horse Drawn Carriage (4) - 700g
- Riding Horse
- Wooden Exterior
- Regular Whip
- Wooden Seats
The Double Chariot (2) - 500g
- Riding Horse
- Wooden Exterior
- Regular Whip
- Wooden seats
The Single Chariot (1)- 350g
- Riding Horse
- Wooden Exterior
- Regular Whip
- Wooden seats
The Bycycle (1) - 25g
- Wood
- Wooden Seats
The Skates (1) - 10g
- Wood

Add-Ons and Ugrades

Down-stuffed seats - 15g
Mini-bar (horsedrawn only) - 10g
Colored Exterior - 20g
Handi-Grip Whip - 5g
Made of Iron (bycycles and skates only) - 10g
All horses may be upgraded according to the Equirias Stables. The price will increase that amount.

Custom Machines available, prices vary

Offices
CEO - Great Iguanaman
Salesperson - SKILORD

Water

Raft--50g
Rowboat--100g
Sailboat--300g
Large Sailboat--500g
Small trading ship--600g
regular trading ship--900g
large trading ship--1200g
small yatch--3000g
large yatch--5000g
Cruise Boat--10000g

I just included the prices, just incase you need them.

The Great Iguanaman

 

[Strider]

Originally posted by donsig


I took a look at the S&E *charter* and it seems to me that this would be too much of a departure from S&E's intended business area. I do not approve this. PM to follow to Strider and EA.

Is their any price I can pay that allows me to do this?

 

[donsig]

SAaM: I'm not sure that businesses get a free start-up of a business. Also, I think a business must be a corporation before it can own part or all of another business. Finally, the bank was set up to process loans and handle accoounts, not rent out retail and office space. I can't approve this.

Strider: One way I can see if for you to take the S&E public. By doing so you could alter your charter at the same time. (Plus sell shares. )

Great Iguanaman: I looked through your thread and your partnership with the boat people isn't meant to be a true partnership like Acroama. It is an agreement more like that between the Rebel Pub / SAaM's Eatery and Obsessed Nuker's Inn. In that sense you don't really need the price manager's approval. I've haven't found the start-up for the boat selling business though. looks like they were trying to set up a public company or formal partnership but they never actually started the business?

 

[Great Iguanaman]

What happend was jdd started a thread about wanting a partner. I saw it and proposed that he join me in my company. We decided a new name would be fitting, so i started the thread. So, the start-up would be the Iguanaman Dealership

The Great Iguanaman

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by Great Iguanaman
What happend was jdd started a thread about wanting a partner. I saw it and proposed that he join me in my company. We decided a new name would be fitting, so i started the thread. So, the start-up would be the Iguanaman Dealership

The Great Iguanaman

jdd2007 hasn't applied for approval here so technically he doesn't have a business yet! I will pm him.

 

[Shaitan]

Couple big problems here. The Bank isn't a player so doesn't get a free business.

The Bank isn't a corporation so can't own another business.

Having an NPC organization that you are running "give" you 30 free shares is pretty unfair.

Originally posted by Stuck_As_a_Mac

Banks First Business, so 90g (yes, we do have profits- loan intake)
Privatly owned by Bank, CEO SaaM (30 free shares)
Please Aprove

 

[disorganizer]

SaaM: another set of problems:
* we didnt even event construction, so how can we build 30 stories high buildings?
* who built that building? the bank would have to pay for building it, like every other player or business. acroma homes would be happy to provide you with this building for a reasonable price, i think. but you wont get it for free.

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

Now to defend my tower:
1) 30 shares is estimated. I used that as a figure, and I am regreting it.
2) Why cant the bank (the biggest NPC of them all) own something? RL banks own land, businesses, and other things. So why cant the BOF own a tower?
3) We would pay for it if we cant get it for free. We earn over 300g/tc in loan income (and when the VHS loan is payed, thats 1600g *4000g if you count the total debt). We could/will pay for this tower.
Now let round two of arguments begin!

 

[ScorpiusAP]

I would like to register: The Community Souvenir Shop

Owners:ScorpiusAP, Bolan
Type:Manufacturer
Size: Personal
Expense: Under 100
Startup Cost: None (First Bussiness)

Description: Sells many things from The Community and Communtiy and Community related.

Cheap T-shirt**# 10g
Silk Shirt*# 15g
Mini Flag 10g
Standard Flag 30g
Cap 15g
Jacket**# 30g
Tie* 10g
Mug** 15g
0.5 litre bottle of McNulty's Malt Whiskey 100g

All Items made with "The Community" Sewn or Painted on
* Can be made with The Community flag (free)
** Can be made with slogan or flag (free)
# Can be made with your name in front right corner 5g more

Slogans include:
I (heart): The Community, Spiritualism, Terra, Aqua, Pyra, Aria, The Assembly, Democracy, The Lake
My (blank) went to The Community and all I got was this lousy (blank)
Customs slogans available within reason

EDIT:
We will also be supplying subscriptions to our most popular papers:
The Lake: Get all the news and gossip about whats going on in The Community
The Lighthouse: Not just the news but religion and peace of mind.
Papers will be delivered to your (email) address as they come out for only 30g.

 

[Shaitan]

Originally posted by Stuck_As_a_Mac
Now to defend my tower:
1) 30 shares is estimated. I used that as a figure, and I am regreting it.
2) Why cant the bank (the biggest NPC of them all) own something? RL banks own land, businesses, and other things. So why cant the BOF own a tower?
3) We would pay for it if we cant get it for free. We earn over 300g/tc in loan income (and when the VHS loan is payed, thats 1600g *4000g if you count the total debt). We could/will pay for this tower.
Now let round two of arguments begin!

1. Yeah, definitely drop stuff like that.
2. Because they are an NPC and because they are not a corporation so cannot start and own another business. Take them to corporation status with their earnings and you'll get less resistance.
3. As far as I know you have not tracked a single bit of loan income. In any case your estimate is about a magnitude of 10 higher than what is possible.

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

okay, regarding profits: in the spreadsheet, there is one entitled BANK. This account has over 300g, and it earns aproximatly this ammount every turn (the exact ammount differs turn to turn, new loans taken out, old ones repaid). This is the bank profits.
Also- how do I get to corparate status? I have stock, it has a thread and is used (daily-ish)

 

[Strider]

Posted by Donsig:
Strider: One way I can see if for you to take the S&E public. By doing so you could alter your charter at the same time. (Plus sell shares. )

I don't want to make S&E inc. public if ehecatl wants to sell his half of S&E inc. then it's fine by me, but I'm not selling any of my half.

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by Strider
Posted by Donsig:
Strider: One way I can see if for you to take the S&E public. By doing so you could alter your charter at the same time. (Plus sell shares. )

I don't want to make S&E inc. public if ehecatl wants to sell his half of S&E inc. then it's fine by me, but I'm not selling any of my half.

But you don't have to sell it to make it public. Shaitan has done almost the same thing with Shaicorp and I did it with DFZ. When you go public you (or you and your partner) get all the shares. You don't have to sell them you can just keep them. But this would allow you to expand your business to hire out the things you want to.

 

[Strider]

Originally posted by donsig


But you don't have to sell it to make it public. Shaitan has done almost the same thing with Shaicorp and I did it with DFZ. When you go public you (or you and your partner) get all the shares. You don't have to sell them you can just keep them. But this would allow you to expand your business to hire out the things you want to.

Ok.... How much does it cost to go public? (I'm already spending 6000g on something.... So it better not be two expensize )