Ask A Bulgarian

[gay_Aleks]

Whee. We got several villages on the borders. Sweet!

Here's a tip: never measure whether a country has won a war solely by territory gained.. it had it's tradeoffs.

 

[ywhtptgtfo]

Bulgaria got more land as a result of ww2 than Greece did. So yeah..

You guys missed your chance at reforming the Byzantine Empire in 1919.

 

[gay_Aleks]

Yeah, and that's when Ataturk came in and decided to mess things for everyone.

 

[Kyriakos]

That was a result of mostly the fall of PM Eleutherios Venizelos in the election (leading to all the tested military generals/high rank removed for political reasons) and the outcome of friction with our 'allies' (most notably France and Italy) who went on to openly gift weapons to kemal.

Anyway, the Great Komnenoi will rise again

 

[gay_Aleks]

I like how on the map posted above there's two Nicopolis in Greece and Bulgaria.

 

[ywhtptgtfo]

There is a dozen of Moscows, Parises, and Londons in USA.

 

[gay_Aleks]

They're for the most part made by colonists that hail from these countries.

 

[cybrxkhan]

I quickly skimmed Wikipedia and apparently there were two cities named Nicopolis in Bulgaria, besides the one in Greece. There were also apparently a couple in Turkey or something. Guess them ancients weren't too inventive.

 

[gay_Aleks]

Considering how many Alexandrias there are, I'm ready to presume so.

 

[Takhisis]

I quickly skimmed Wikipedia and apparently there were two cities named Nicopolis in Bulgaria, besides the one in Greece. There were also apparently a couple in Turkey or something. Guess them ancients weren't too inventive.

Dedicating cities to gods after a victorious battle wasn't that rare.

 

[Kyriakos]

^Yes, afterall, as is known, Nike=Victory (the goddess of victory was also named that), so Nicopolis should mostly mean city of victory.

I suppose that Nicomedeia (just across Constantinople, in Asia Minor) was named after a victory against the Medes (?). Iirc it was an administration center of the whole of Anatolia, in the era of the roman tetrarchies.

 

[ywhtptgtfo]

^Yes, afterall, as is known, Nike=Victory (the goddess of victory was also named that), so Nicopolis should mostly mean city of victory.

I suppose that Nicomedeia (just across Constantinople, in Asia Minor) was named after a victory against the Medes (?). Iirc it was an administration center of the whole of Anatolia, in the era of the roman tetrarchies.

Greece didn't take back Nicaea because they weren't victorious.

 

[Takhisis]

Well, we're swiftly de-Bulgarianising the thread, but I believe the city was named after King Nicomedes (victory-ruler?).

 

[Kyriakos]

^I think it would have been termed Nicomedontos then (medon= ruler, medontos= of the ruler, different clause).
However, afaik, Medeia is supposed to be a term/name from the same root (to rule), so it might have meant the city which came as a result of ruling something, or the city which was upgraded to capital after that victory, etc.

"Forkynos thygater, alos atrygetio medontos" (daughter of Forkyn(as), ruler of the never ending sea), to quote a homeric verse with the term...

 

[ywhtptgtfo]

Well, we're swiftly de-Bulgarianising the thread, but I believe the city was named after King Nicomedes (victory-ruler?).

It's okay, we can kinda put Nicomedia as part of Greater Bulgaria. It's just across the Borphorus after all

 

[r16]

That was a result of mostly the fall of PM Eleutherios Venizelos in the election (leading to all the tested military generals/high rank removed for political reasons) and the outcome of friction with our 'allies' (most notably France and Italy) who went on to openly gift weapons to kemal.

Anyway, the Great Komnenoi will rise again

well , am back ... As if the tested generals would have invented Maglev trains and stuff to overcome the logistics of an invasion of the entire Turkish "homeland" to defeat every last of those pesky Turks . And getting to Ankara was tough enough in 1921 , right ? As for gifts , Turkish histories never mention the French giving tanks to us while some Osprey title remarks the Greeks got the half of some French tank company or something and we got the other half ... Anything in Greek histories about that ?

 

[Kyriakos]

^I refuse to further de-bulgarise the thread

 

[r16]

as you wish . Would have really liked to find out that the Turkish Armoured Corps didn't start in 1928 or 30 something .

 

[ywhtptgtfo]

What do Bulgarians think about the Byzantine Empire?

 

[gay_Aleks]

What do Bulgarians think about the Byzantine Empire?

Bulgarian historians don't deny that the Byzantine-Bulgarian cultural exchange is monumental to forming the Bulgarian medieval state as we know it, as some of the greatest rulers have studied there, and many of their cultural traditions were either replicated/or even made better.

Now, a normal layperson, he'd say something around the words of "convenient punching bag".