Ask A Catholic II

[Takhisis]

I see no description of coitus there.

 

[Lovebird]

Of course, because they use metaphors. The "fruit" in 2:3 is referring to the male's semen, and the garden and fruit in 4:16 are referring to the female's vagina.

Maybe you should do a little background reading on the book before answering further.

 

[Takhisis]

Hmmm, you say that one is semen and the other is a vagin, this wouldn't be sodomy, you know…

 

[Lovebird]

Oral sex is a kind of sodomy.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Most experts do agree that Song of Solomon contains multiple veiled references to oral sex (both fellatio and cunnilingus) between husband and wife in generally positive terms.


Whether oral sex is considered sodomy varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. The earliest references to sodomy as a sexual crime did not include oral. A more biblically based definition of sodomy wouldn't have as much to do with sex acts as with hubris, avarice, gluttony, and xenophobia.

 

[kochman]

Of course, because they use metaphors. The "fruit" in 2:3 is referring to the male's semen, and the garden and fruit in 4:16 are referring to the female's vagina.

Maybe you should do a little background reading on the book before answering further.

Therein lies the problem with Catholicism, as I see it... it doesn't encourage individual learning, etc.
It allows people to be lazy and have their opinions/interpretations fed to them.

 

[Arakhor]

How is that different from any other religion?

 

[kochman]

How is that different from any other religion?

The centralization of RCC is probably higher than any other religion...
If you want to continue this discussion we can, but via PM... we don't need to hijack this thread again.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Question to Catholics: Is belief in the Rapture exclusively a Protestant thing, or do some Catholics believe in it as well?

 

[Holycannoli]

Therein lies the problem with Catholicism, as I see it... it doesn't encourage individual learning, etc.
It allows people to be lazy and have their opinions/interpretations fed to them.

That's because the bible and christianity cannot be interpreted individually based on whatever someone feels at the time. That's the reason there's so many damned denominations these days, all calling themselves "christian".

And who better to interpret than the church that created the bible in the first place over the course of many years, and who can trace their religious teachings to those who walked alongside Jesus, passing their knowledge and teachings down via spoken word and tradition?

 

[GhostWriter16]

That's the reason there's so many damned denominations these days, all calling themselves "christian".

Wait, Protestants are now damned?

 

[kochman]

That's because the bible and christianity cannot be interpreted individually based on whatever someone feels at the time. That's the reason there's so many damned denominations these days, all calling themselves "christian".

And who better to interpret than the church that created the bible in the first place over the course of many years, and who can trace their religious teachings to those who walked alongside Jesus, passing their knowledge and teachings down via spoken word and tradition?

You guys keep talking about tracing it back to Jesus's path... as if hundreds of years of corruption wasn't a direct break from His teachings.
It comes off as really arrogant when you make it out to be that the RCC is the best answer. I get that you are into it, but do catholics not see that some folks would rather take different paths, and they could be just as good, and not inferior?

 

[timtofly]

That's because the bible and christianity cannot be interpreted individually based on whatever someone feels at the time. That's the reason there's so many damned denominations these days, all calling themselves "christian".

And who better to interpret than the church that created the bible in the first place over the course of many years, and who can trace their religious teachings to those who walked alongside Jesus, passing their knowledge and teachings down via spoken word and tradition?

Created the Bible?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Moderator Action: Once again, this isn't "Convince a Catholic/Protestant that Their Religion is False", it's "Ask a Catholic". The questions should reflect that.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[civ_king]

Question to Catholics: Is belief in the Rapture exclusively a Protestant thing, or do some Catholics believe in it as well?

Rapture is exclusively a Protestant thing and mostly American tracing to the early 19th century

Therein lies the problem with Catholicism, as I see it... it doesn't encourage individual learning, etc.
It allows people to be lazy and have their opinions/interpretations fed to them.

It doesn't discourage people from learning the Bible and most churches have Bible study groups

Wait, Protestants are now damned?

he didn't say that

Created the Bible?

Yes, the Bible was created in an Ecumenical Council

 

[El_Machinae]

Ask a Catholic: How many converts do you know? From the outside perspective, it seems like Catholicism is something that you're raised in, and then might leave. I don't know many people who become Catholic.

Protestants and Mormons seem to be able to recruit from the 'casually spiritual, looking for answers' pool of people. IMO, obviously.

Additionally, how do you feel about Catholic rules becoming secular laws? My region recently negated its 'Lord's Day' legislation, and allowed stores to be open on Sundays. Obviously, any law with a 'religious vibe', but strong secular reasoning, is considered on its merits. But how would you feel about laws that would be specifically (and obviously) Christian? For flavour, I'm kinda thinking about laws that used to exist in the OT, but are no longer in modern societies.

 

[NBAfan]

Half the people at my Church are converts. My mother was a convert.
Most of the major apologists on TV and radio are converts.

Additionally, how do you feel about Catholic rules becoming secular laws? My region recently negated its 'Lord's Day' legislation, and allowed stores to be open on Sundays. Obviously, any law with a 'religious vibe', but strong secular reasoning, is considered on its merits. But how would you feel about laws that would be specifically (and obviously) Christian? For flavour, I'm kinda thinking about laws that used to exist in the OT, but are no longer in modern societies.

Depends on what kind of rules, non Catholics definitely don't have to follow the discipline rules. But for moral laws yes.

 

[El_Machinae]

Sorry, I brainfarted while asking the question and forgot to add: What did they convert from?

 

[NBAfan]

Sorry, I brainfarted while asking the question and forgot to add: What did they convert from?

A mix of atheists and protestants.
If you look around, you will find lots of converts.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Ask a Catholic: How many converts do you know? From the outside perspective, it seems like Catholicism is something that you're raised in, and then might leave. I don't know many people who become Catholic.

Personally, I know of one serious catholic convert, given the number of serious catholics I know, that's about 20% however.