MamboJoel
Cool.
Yeeek said:
The guy holding the mic like a Jacques Martin TV Show, "l'Ecole des fans" ?
--Caution with source--
Ask Iranians
- Thread starter PersianBoy
- Start date
- Status
The guy holding the mic like a Jacques Martin TV Show, "l'Ecole des fans" ?
--Caution with source--
Leatherneck
Drive-by poster.
MamboJoel said:
Believe me I'm not saying the source is not bias, clearly it happened somewhere. Perhaps the car tag could shed some light as to where it happened. Either way, no civilized people would do that to a child.
I connected to it from http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ which clearly has a agenda too. As I've said before, somewhere on the beach of BS is a grain of truth, you just have to find it.
Mott1
King
- Joined
- Feb 27, 2006
- Messages
- 742
Leatherneck said:
Why is it difficult to believe? I do not think a nice person like Persianboy would find it acceptable but it is consistant with Sharia law in Iran.
PENALTIES imposed by Iran's religious mullahs include:
*THEFT: Amputation of hands or feet for persistent offenders.*
ADULTERY: Death by stoning.
UNMARRIED SEX: 100 lashes.
CONVERSION TO RELIGION OTHER THAN ISLAM: Death.
SODOMY: Death for adults, 74 lashes for consenting child.
LESBIANISM: 100 lashes, or on the fourth occasion death.
HOMOSEXUAL KISS: 60 lashes.
RUBBING ANOTHER MAN'S THIGHS OR BUTTOCKS: 99 lashes - on 4th occasion, death.
Leatherneck
Drive-by poster.
Mott1 said:
Oh I know, just like to give the benifit of the doubt been back in the states to long and I've gotten into that "happy place" that crap like this in world is out dated and history. No more happy place ....
Yeeek
Seizing The Day
If the church would have kept a strong influences on govt throughout the last two century, i don't think the sharia law would be that different than what we could have with fundies christrian on power.
Now the question, how many muslim countries have the sharia law in effect? Also, is this law part of the Qu'ran?
Now the question, how many muslim countries have the sharia law in effect? Also, is this law part of the Qu'ran?
boarder
King
Nevermind.
PersianBoy
Prince
Cheezy the Wiz said:
in western view yes all was happened is only a disagreemint about after Prophet who was the next Clipha
but in Shi'a view, only Imams can be leader of muslims and Abobakr Sunni's first Clipha token leadership without permission of God.
through the history Sunnis annoy Shi'a because they are majority and Shi'a are miniority
In Islamic rule there is a rule that anybody convet from Islam to other religions, will punished by death
Sunnis through history used this rule and killed every Shi'a, can found by this reason that Shi'a worship Ali, the first Imam (leader) of Shi'a but this is false and Shi'a believe that he was the true leader after Muhammad
so Shi'a hating Sunnis because for centuries they killed every Shi'a they found and Sunnis hate Shi'a because they think they caused Islamic Calipha lose its strongness and this bring defeats for Islam
diffrence with christian denominations you said is that after religios war of Protestan and Catholic war (I think continued for 100 year) denominations began to talk with each other but not in islam
many Sunni's even today think that Shi'a worship Ali or don't believe in Prophet that as I said is false
but these denominations have not this oppurtunity to talk with each other so they hate each other
PersianBoy
Prince
Whomp said:You're doing great.
I recently read a book called "A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East written by David Fromkin.
The book is about the changes that occurred in the Middle East around World War I.
Do you feel the Middle East would be better off if the Ottoman Empire was still in existence today? Could you read this book if you wanted?
I don't read that book but I know all event you reffered
I think age of great empires ended on that time as great empires Austria has destories to small countries of central euroup and balkan
if you think unionship of central euroup and Blkan is better then the same for ME is better
but remember that on that time, many wars occured between Iran in Safavite time and Ottman empire because of gaining power and problem of Shi'a and Sunni
Iran was Shi'a and Ottman was Sunni
ottmans said they are Calipha but Iran and Safavites reject and then ottmans attack Iran. both of them were Turk and speak Turkish but in differnet denominations
I think a talking between Muslims and non-muslims and also a talking between muslims (Shi'a and Sunni)
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Greatest thread I've ever seen on CFC!
Keep up the good work PersianBoy!
Q: Howmany people/families own a car in Iran? And what kind of cars?
Keep up the good work PersianBoy!
Q: Howmany people/families own a car in Iran? And what kind of cars?
PersianBoy
Prince
BirraImperial said:
national sport of Iran is wrestling but football have more fans
2 football club have most fans in iran and they are
Pirozi (or Perspolis)
and Esteghlal
perspolis wear red and Esteghlal wear blue
http://www.perspolis-club.ir/
http://www.esteghlalclub.com/
official sites of these cloobs but in persian only sorry
both of them is from Tehran capital city of Iran in recent years some other cloobs can win the footbal cup but these two clob have more fan then to others and this year Esteghlal wins the foobal ligue cup
PersianBoy
Prince
Dionysius said:
maybe I can say that many poeple even don't know christians have denominations, they like Catholics because find more similarities between Catholics and Islam but me like protestan because they stand in front of bad doings of Church
UK and Russia are not Catholic and Iranians in history have not much relation with Catholic (modern age) but Invaders to Iran was protestan and ortodox
In general can say that no diffrence and even think all Christians obey Pope but If they know about denominations of christianity can say that fundamentalists like Catholics and Modernists like Protestantism
about 100 years ago King of Iran Reza Khan request other countries call Iran ecept of Presia but Iranians always call thier hand Iran means home of Arians some poeple like others call persia and I think its better that other countries call Iran as Persia like Germany that international name is Germany but germans call Duiche land or some thing like it and japan and Nibon
but for poeple of Iran this country called, call and will call Iran
they don't no name for thier country and I don't know which is better for myself, I am a IranianBoy always and no diffrence that others call me PersianBoy or IranianBoy [maybe like to call me PersianBoy]
to some extent yes
Iranian don't believe that greeks defeat them in past and they believe that by burning Aten they achieve victory and then macdonian defeat them and capture Persia
but I believe that greeks defeat Persians and Iranians not so strong in sea
I don't read civilopedia exactly but promise will read it
also in this site meet some poeple who believe its wrong
IMO real history of Iran has wrote in a book by the name of Shahname means story of kings (exact meaning post of king) and this book is like Humer ancient poat of greece and some day will be clear that all things in that book is true but now all poeples thing all thing in that book is myth. western historians write Iran's history and let them all things like say about history of Iran and I don't mind about what they said (historians)
some years ago poeple read this books in cafes and called it Naghalli but with modern style of cafes no place is remained for them. I can say something like Shekepire Theater but except of actors and actresses some one with some painting tell a story of Shahname for all poeples in cafe. all things needed for Naghalli is a person who know about histories of Shahname and some paintings shows stories
painting in this link are examples of this painting
http://www.ajayeb.ir/sohrab/index.php
sorry I can't find a english link everybody knows about a english link plz write it in this threat
PersianBoy
Prince
Fox Mccloud said:
my mother born language was not persian and I began to learn persian when I was only 4 or 5 years volunteariely and know hardly can speak in my mother born language
i can say that for others learning persian is a little hard
and English is easy
i have a friend fron China and he learn to speak persian and said that learning persian is very harder than learning English
I think its hardness partly because of cases don't obey general rule and gramer and also shortage of rules and gramer. Arabic and other languages mainly effect persian and this cause problems. persian have 32 alaphabets in comparison with 24 for English and 28 for Arabic
without cases that don't obey general rule and gramer (I mean exceptions in persian is high) I think persian in comparison with Arabic will be a easier language to learn.
about forgoting persian, I must say that poeple of Iran don't like hear and watch movies in other language and all movies in Cinema and Tv are in persian language except very few cases
then I think poeple very slowly forgot thier language in comparison with other places
Pyrite
Emperor
Sorry if this has been asked before.
What's youth culture like in Iran? What do younger people usually do for fun?
What do older people do for fun?
What's youth culture like in Iran? What do younger people usually do for fun?
What do older people do for fun?
PersianBoy
Prince
Leatherneck said:
It was compeletely false
I saw these pics before and know true story about it
the man behind that poor child is his father and he with his father play in a street show
that father for bad parenting has captured and that poor son go to a safe home provided by government for child like that
all of story is about poverity
there are in Iran some street show that someone shows that he is a strong man by cutting chains and things like that but all of them is false somewhere in chain that he hold in his hand and don't show to poeple has cut before then he shows that cut chian and poeple give him some money
for this case father uses his son to collect money from poeple with 1 diffrence to other and diffrence is that for this poor child it is true and that car really cross his hand but no things happen for child and his hand not cut or any other casuality and can use his hand for entire of his life
all poeple shocked by viewing that pics in Iran and now father in jail and son in publice house
for punishment of rubbery and thief I must explain some more:
fingers and not hand of a thief cut, if he broken a door or something like it(door of safe, room, house and etc) and rub all things in it, only in this case his or her fingers cut (but not tumb) and another necassery condition is that no one under 18 not punished (like this son), he or she must be over 18 to punished for all thing and even a child under 18 kills someone else, no one kill he or she until he recieve 18 years old
all thing I said is for Shi'a muslims and I think Sunni's have some diffrence that i don't know exactly
(I mean Shi'a use this rule for all of poeple including Sunnis but Sunnis may have diffrent rules in this case)
so this story was in that site is completely false and that site is lying
PersianBoy
Prince
Mott1 said:
seems that you intersting to child and number of posts about this poor child shows this
so I explain more about it
Sharia rules is performing in Iran and some other Islamic countries and before in all Islamic countries
many poeple punished by lashes in Iran today and few killed by various kind of death but condition for perfoming them is a diffrent with you think
for man or 2 man and 4 women must say in a judgemnet place
exactly
4 male or
3 male and 2 female
2 male and 4 female
all in a same time and in a same way say that they saw a woman have sex a man that he was not her husbend and also a man have sex with a woman that she was not his wife (exactly must see that that thing of man enter that thing of woman)
or a man or woman come near a judge and say that he or she had sex with a man or woman that was not wife or husbend for 4 times in a same way and same kind
and also in the time of adultry man or woman have husbend ready to sex, he or she not traveled or in some other places, briefly can say that if a man has his wife in his house or can call her to house for having sex but he except of his wife goes for sex with a wife of some other man, will be punished by this way that he burried up to tomb in earth and then poeple of city that adultry happened there come and throw stone (extra size is 3 or 4 centimeters) from a certain and known distance about 5 meters (I think) to kill that man and man who performed adultry can try to escape (his hand is free and out of earth), bring himself out of soul and run
the same for woman only with this diffrence that that she burried in earth up to his breast
if poeple don't like to throw stones, no one force them and no one force them to collect in the place that this rule performs
in west I think some poeple go in judgement place for jury, in islam they go themselves for punishment as I said
with these condition then judge can punished and I when have a wife for sex and knowing that if others see me when having sex do things I mention above, never going to have sex with other man's wife if wanna to have it then I don't think finding a place that others can not see me is very hard (rememeber that if others in a judgemnet place say I have sex, then I will be punished)
never a man or woman under 18 years punished even kill othres
all thing I said is according to Shi'a Islamic rules and maybe Sunni's rule differ with what I describe above
and for this poor child, father force him to do what you saw only for money and poverity
in some countries parents sell their child because of poverity and he knows that his child don't suffer seriuosly (child had soooooo much pain but now is healthy and safe)
all things cause from poverity as I said many of this problems will solve if economic development occur
I deny all things like this event and wish never again some person because of poverity force to do unhuman things
something about that site
as you can see it was for advertising christianity but unfortunately lying about Islam (I accept maybe owner of that site don't know and somebody else give false information) and cause poeple of western countries recieve some bad and missinformation about Islam and then confilct increases
IMO Islamic rule exist and no thing else
I don't say anything about it because I never go for someone's wife and don't like homosexual so never some one will want to kill me and think if others do same never need that rules
If more explanation is need ask me plz (I know some about Islamic rules and some time in past read about them only Shi'a of course)
PersianBoy
Prince
Yeeek said:
I don't know exactly and only can say that in Iran performed not completely and heard about performing it in countries south of persian gulf espicially in Saudi Arabia
what exactly wroten in Quran is that every man or woman perfum adultry must punish with death by stones and in Islamic rule the explanation and defination of adultry and death by stones comes
maybe you ask Iranian most of them don't know the definatoin of adultry and said it will be punished by killing by stones the exact definition is so:
adultry when occered that a man have sex with a woman that she is not his wife and do smae thing like pipe in hole completely
maybe Iranian answer that if a woman and man be lonely in a place that no one others can see them, therefore adultry occured
most lashes in Iran is for drinking Alcohol drinks
PersianBoy
Prince
Mott1 said:
thank you fro your answer but I must complete it.
I don't know what do you call as Islamic country, but I call a country Islmic country that in there major of poeple are muslim.
by this definition many countries that don't obey Islamic rule exist countries like southern republic of ex USSR like turkmanistan, Tjikistan and others
also countries like Malesia and UAE be Islamic countries that I don't hear Islamic law perform in these countries (for UAE I'm sure because Iranian go there for doing freely in sex and other)
Leatherneck
Drive-by poster.
You and other Iranians should make efforts to contact these sites and tell them what the real story is, I take anything I see on the internet with a grain (block) of salt (which means if you do not know this phrase "to have doubt")
SO why in my country this is child abuse and the parent would go to jail and the child removed and placed in foster care, if what I read you wrote correctly that is what happened in Iran.
As for some of the Iranians other laws they still seem a bit extreme ... cutting off body part for petty crime? Burying and stoning for adultry. In my country adultry is not approved per say, it is for the most part is not illegal in most states maybe all states not sure, but you won't be stoned to death, buried etc ... even those seem rather barbaric.
SO why in my country this is child abuse and the parent would go to jail and the child removed and placed in foster care, if what I read you wrote correctly that is what happened in Iran.
As for some of the Iranians other laws they still seem a bit extreme ... cutting off body part for petty crime? Burying and stoning for adultry. In my country adultry is not approved per say, it is for the most part is not illegal in most states maybe all states not sure, but you won't be stoned to death, buried etc ... even those seem rather barbaric.
PersianBoy
Prince
I don't know how many poeple own a car in Iran but I think about half of families have a carStapel said:
many families have 2 or more car but no statistics
number 1 in quantity is Peykan a car like old Hilman from England build in Iran by the name of Paykan and the secound is Pride that was a product of Kiamotors Of South Korea
peguet 206, 405, 504 and other products of peguet company is the 3th
old Benz like 220 are favorite vehicles of poeple but cars of this company in Iran are old and new models seen merely, generally most of people believe that products of Benz are best
old Fiat, cheverelt, BMW are other cars
Japanese and korean cars like Toyota, Dawoe are another cars driven in Iran
http://www.ikco.com/ this link reach you in first manufacturer company in Iran but newly they stop producing Paykan (about 75% of cars in Iran are or maybe were Paykan this word meabs Arrow in Persian)
secound car manufacturer in Iran: SAIPA http://www.saipacorp.com/en/ newly this manufacturer produce Pride by the name Of Saipa 141
in this link you can see the picture of Paykan http://www.khareed.com/uploadtemp3/2451_871390383.jpg
in this link you can see a picture of Pride known in Iran Saba & Nasim
http://www.saipacorp.com/en/saba/default.asp
can I ask you why ask this queation?
- Status
