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Leatherneck said:
Sobh Be Kheyr!



I don't think Isreal will ever attack Iran directly, thier military does not have the range or refuelers to my knowledge. To get there and back, while the US says this is not our war I doubt they would sign off on it.





It is the understanding I believe in the west that Ahmadi nejad doesn't really care what anyone says, as we do not have a full understanding of just how the Iranian political systems works, if it is anything like the west then it falls as often as it succeeds. He is shown in the west as a mad man that wants to control all of the Arab countries and control all of the oil, and to destroy Isreal as an added bonus. How do your people see him and how do they see the west, mainly the US.





If the people of Iran rose up before to over throw the rule of Iran, and if the current leadership is bringing them closer to conflict then can they not rise up against it. Or would this not be in their best interest?




We can only hope, as I think every wants peace in the middle east but few believe it is possible. What is the belief in Iran? Do they think peace is possible and if so how is this achieved?

Thank you for your effort on this thread ... :goodjob:
asre shoma ham be khir:)
no one in Iran wanna to capture all arab countries and expand power to all oil feilds even that mad man
Iranian never think of attacking Saudi Arabia or UAE and even don't imagine it
we are peacefull nation that only wanna to defend othre nations and save this land from whom that wanna to capture it
last attack that Iranians perform was for greece and I think all of you know what happen for Xreox and his great army
after that offend, we defend from our land (Greeks and alesander from greece and Romans from Italy, Arabs from Arabia, turks from Asia and later turkey, horrible Moguls from east of Asia and in modern time Russia from north, UK from west of europe and now USA from over the oceans and ... this one is so far from our land) from all offenders and in some cases we are not victrious (Arabs, Moguls and...) last war was in front of Iraq that attack Iran and UN approve that they are offenders
Iran have not any offender positin to Azabayjan that Russia give from us 200 years ago and have most common charastristics with Turks of Iran
Sunnis don't allow Shia Iranians to perform freely thier religious acts in Holy Cities of Macca and Madina ( because they are Sunni and we are Shia). this is maximum of confilct between Iranians and Arabs.

poeple of Iran see Ahmadi nejad as a person who talk new words diffrent from other political person. talk about Justice and equality of poeple in economic term and condition. say no poor must die from hungry. and some times say unrational things about Israel for attracting poeple but never act that unrational ideas, because know that poeple cause unrest and in Iran we have enough motive for Unrest
todays most important subject in Iran is GASOLINE'S PRICE not Israel not USA threats and not uranium enrichment
todays price of gasoline and fuel are about 8 cents (donT suprise government give extra as subsidy to all poeple) but this condition can not be continue and government wanna to change price without causing poeple gonna to street and say president must go and no to Ahmadi nejad
War have here negative effect and cause more poeple dislike Ahmadi nejad

US and other countries are looked as countries that want ot destory peace of Iran and don't want Iran's poeple live in peace and this idiot president do some thing to encourage them, remember to don't vote him in next election but 3 years remain for him and God bless Iran and Godwill no bad things happen with this mad J Bush, he attack Taliban and Saddam and destory tham, thanks for removing that evil poeples and free Iranian from thier bad effects and things, saddam atack Iran and caused a 8 years imposed war and God save Iranians from evil Taliban, in some times war with Taliban seems unimpposible but Bush now wanna to do things so bad that compare to that good things (mean removing Saddam and Taliban from power not killing innocent poeple) seems nothing.

they want peace and anybody bring for them war, will be hated even Ahmadi nejad, even superme leader and even Bush or palestinians or Nasroallh (leader of Hizboallah)
if poeple can remove him from power do it (even with terror because killing 1 or 2 person is better than killing 1000000 poeple), no diffrence he was President or Superme Leader or ... (even JW Bush yea, they will try to kill her to prevent occuring war)

peace in ME
after imposed war with Iraq, poeple live yet 18 years in peace in Iran and relation with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq now is good or gonna to be good and before these problems seems to relation with US gonna to be good but that damn man Bin Ladan attack that damn buildings and now US is attacking every where
that damn Israelies and palestinian for how many year wanna to kill each other? 100 200 or 500 years?
better Israelies give some more land to palestinians and don't have anything with our religious places in there

"""""all things from a average poeple of Iran was said""""
 
chrisrossi said:
do the iranians, such as yourself, feel oppressed by your leaders?

i ask this because the media in the UK is very americanated and i do not feel that it is very balanced at all.

actually no
but if somebody with thinks like me do somethings for realizing that thinks personally, may oppress and take in prison but more important is that he or she don't welcomed in public sector and government

so if private sector is grow, condition will be better because many of whom that have strengh point in private sector have not same thinking way with Mollas although some of them have same thinking
 
Rambuchan said:
PersianBoy: Thank you for the kind response and sorry for so many difficult questions.

I checked the site Amordad, but unfortunately, I cannot read it. So I cannot ask them and post the answer back here. :sad:

Thanks for the information about Yazd. I did not know this and will look into it more.
I had not heard of him before and, to be honest, I am more interested in the cultural and social history of Zoroastrianism than the religious. But it seems he is significant to the history of the faith.

However, in case I disappoint you with this news, let me tell you that I am a big fan of medieval Persian poetry. Nizami, Ferdowsi, Omar Khayyam and Rumi are the ones I have a read a lot of - and it is some of the world's most beautiful literature in my opinion. I want to learn more about the Khorasani school of verse and that will come some day. If you can recommend some that you may know of, then I would be very grateful.
I can understand and sympathise with why you think they may not want to come back (I disagree with the way the USA and others are treating your nation now, and indeed in the last century). But I am pleased to see your positive attitude here. Very pleased.
You are partly correct. It was in the 10th century when the power that would introduce Islam to India was growing. That power was the Ghaznevids / Ghaznavid Empire. Mahmud of Ghazni was the precise man in question. These rulers were a mix of Turkish and Persian rulers, whose base was in what is now Afghanistan. Their expansion into northern India was what brought Islam to those lands. However, this religion was still very limited in the 10th century AD and found itself confined to the very north of India. Actually, to be more precise, it was the conquering of Lahore, in modern day Pakistan, that is considered the start of Islam's influence in the sub-continent. It took a lot longer, with many more invasions from the north and west, to bring more of Islam to India. It simply wasn't very widespread in 900s AD.

It is most likely that anyone fleeing Persia for India at this time would have gone to Hindu rulers for refuge. Afterall, they were fleeing from persecution at the hands of Muslims, so I doubt if they would have liked to run into the arms of more! The majority of rulers in India at this time were Hindu, with many other faiths in their populations (Jainism, Buddhism etc).
I think this is correct about the Tata owners but I am not entirely sure. I don't know how to check this for you. But let me say, there are many communities in India who are famed for their wealth and ability to generate it. Parsis are indeed one such group but there are sooooo many more! :lol:

Leatherneck: Just to be clear, I was joking with you every step of the way.
your welcome and thank you for asking them because some where I read for solving a problem the most important thing is designing a qustion for it
:( for jamasp I sreachnig for him but finding less between Behdins (Zoroastrian word in Persian) then find between muslims.

you read thier Poatry in English and enjoy them so much then you must learn persian and read thier original poatry to realize how good reading that poats
I like Ferdowsi veri much butmy favourite poat is Baba Tahir, a not wellknown poat of my city lived about 1000 years ago in Hamadan
so for you translate one of his poatry and write here for you (hope others accept my excuse but we Iranians like poat and poatry very much)

Dark night and land for of stone and me without sense
Bowl poured from my hand but no Thing happen to bowl
saver save it well
unless many bowls before pouring, would destoried

in persian:
shabe tarike o sangestan o mo mast
ghadah az dast mo oftad o nashkast
negah darandeash niko negah dasht
va gar na sad ghadah neftade beshkasht

I don't know so much in poatry but I think Baba was not from Khorasani school
and can I ask you read Shahname and Divane Shams completely and know already searching for other poats?

about history you are true. I mistake 10th century after Date with 10th century after Hijara, muslims calander.
in 10th century AD muslims newly recieving india's border as you said and in 16th century AD they get maximum power of muslims history in india in Moguls I think.
 
I still think you should get another friend who can speak English to join this forum. The more Iranians we can talk to, the better.
 
William GBTW said:
1. Is there much public support for Hezbollah in Iran;

some days before hear from nes that a US general draw a new map for ME but every one who want to draw a map for ME must consider that 2 thing is important for classification of poeple and countries
in first important is religion, I don't mean Sonni and Shi'a not Islam and Christian and Jews. for drawing a map must consider that how much of poeple is Christian, Jew and Sonni muslim or Shi'a muslim
so maybe Sonni Turk of Turkey have very near relation and common ethinic chrastristics wih Shi'a Turk of Iran but evry plan that don't consider that Iranian Turks are Shi'a and Turks of turky are Sonni will not achive victory and happens so much difficulties and problem
and in secound importance is ethnic and langauges

so maybe sothern Lebonanse be arab and seems to have no similirity between them but both of them is Shi'a
I don't know this feeling have how much strength between Sunnis but I know that IN IRAN this feeling is very strong
maybe because of this fact that few countries in world are Shi'a muslims and greatest of them is Iran and look other countries like child and father
maybe this wrong but cause poeple of Iran have some kind of sympathy with Hizboallah because they are Shi'a and have little power so ig brother Iran must help them, I think like relation between US and UK

so public support them and even collect money for helping them an done of Iranian revolutionary leaders lived for years before Islamic Revolution of Iran in Lebonan and fought there with Israelies
so I don't suprise even here some youth do to lebonan to help hizboallah in fighting Israel but actually don't hear about going some youth to lebonan but see some times collecting money for helping lebanese befor this war
 
William GBTW said:
2. Would Iran consider defending Lebanon & Syria from Israel;
Thanks.
as I said hizboallah maybe but not directly and officially
because poeple of Iran don't want another war
Iran fought with with Iraq in imposed war for 8 years longer then WWII and casualties of that war already exist in Iran
so no direct war may accure but helping lebenan (hizboallah) and Syria in other ways maybe accured even now
maybe you know that one of the religious Plaes of Shi'a Muslims are in Damacsus (Capital of Syria) and better this one don't have same fate like such of them be in palestine



when I writing above sentences, think with myself that others may think that these poeple's relious place reach even to 100000000000 place
but I can answer that places in ME civilized over 5000 years ago first and second big religions of world (Islam & Christians) rose from this region and also christians and Jews have too many holy or religious places in this region
 
William GBTW said:
3. Would the Iranian Government consider conducting 'friendly' diplomatic relations if the US ceased supporting Israel & rather supported Lebanon & the cause of Palestinian Statehood?
Thanks.


before 11/9 and attack of Alghaede could accured without that things you said
but now US is disliking to stablish such relation and Iran official always said that wellcome such relation

today US ban US companies from trading Iran and even threaten companies of other countries to trade with Iran

today so much poeple in Iran killed because of plane crashs, mainly because of old planes and technolgies
boing is american company and airbus is french. ex president of Iran, Khatami personally talked with Shirak to buy some airbus and even Iran paid for that but after sometime france gived back Iran's money without reason and didn't sell airbus to Iran

Iran and Qatar share in a gas field that are the biggest gas field of world in persian gulf
for many years Qatar use that resource but Iran because of Damato rule (I think that was a rule, don't know any other names) can't use it because of lack of technologies for offshore

If US stop this actions and allow Iran to use moneies blockede in US, no need to US stop supporting Israel
after stablishing relation Iran and US can talk about Palestini-Israeli problem, Iraq Problem (majority of Iraqian are Shi'a muslims), Afghanistan (most of them speak in the same language with Iranian) and Nuclear problem of Iran, IMO if relation will stablish, US can jion in nuclear programme of Iran and will be sure that Iran will not try to build nukes and will use nuclear power for peacefull things
 
Fox Mccloud said:
No. It is no fair comparison. Bush never done anything so stupid as to deny the holocaust, nor said we should nuke Iran. It's just your blind Bush hatred. Oh well, people compare Bush to Hitalr too.
Ahmadi nejad never said will nuke Israel or US or otherplaces
he did not deny it, only have doubt about it and some more documents for how much Jews was killed in WWII
before of presifential election he was a university master and maybe want some more information about Holocaust to use in his classes for showing how humans can kill other humans so easiely

then has said Iranians that in libral world anybody can dabate about all things and talk about it?
why in this matter no one can debate?

I find only 2 documents in wikipedia about holocast
I believe holocast really happened but for sake of why germany government don't publish more documents if have?
and why only Jews use and remeber this historical event?
all of the other miniorities that killed or suffered by Nazis had destroied by Nazis and only reminders are Jews?

I reapet that I believe Holocast happened!!!
 
Steph said:
Would the people of Iran accept and support a union of countries in the area?
With which countries would you accept to join?

For instance is a Syria - Iraq - Iran union acceptable to then Iranian people?
A Iran + Azerbaidjan + Saudi Arabia, etc?

Could it be a political union (like EU), or just a military alliance (like NATO) to defend against USA in case of conflict?
in this times no
poeple of Iran don't support of any unionship with other countries in majority
but some think of a Shi'a union with South of Iraq and South of Lebonan
Union with Sunni muslim is a more harder espicially from side of other countries
this union must be in democratic method and low population of for example Saudia Arabia or UAE cause they don't will to join in unions
giving certain right for example pre minister to a Sunni arab will cause Iranians be angery
currently in ME everybody think of seperaton not uninship
Kurds want to seperate from Turky, Iraq, Iran and syria and build a new country
so for others

for alliance many of countries in ME have border problems with each other
Iran with UAE
Saudi Arabia with UAE and Qatar ....

history shows war between these countries
Iran wit Iraq for 8 years
Iraq with Kuwit
and if real war did not happened, arguments happend

in other side there was a competitin between countries in this region to show that which country will be the leader of Muslim or Arab world
Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turky, Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan and even Afghanistan in time of Taliban are competitors and also little countries easiely don't agree to be in alliance and support of neubours. they have example of Iraq and kuwit
so they try to gain support of some regional country and also outter powers like US or USSR or ...

only can say condition is complex
but those who have common charstristics like language or Shi'a or Sunni have more potential for alliance or union
in addition degree of Islamic acting is Important
Iran and saudia arbia have few common charastrestics but both of them have religious government but in future Iran and Iraq (if US will not attack Iran) although thier more common chrastristics but because of probably secular government of Iraq will not so good and probably secular Iraqi government will like to stablish near relation with Turkey
so look at
 
El_Machinae said:
I still think you should get another friend who can speak English to join this forum. The more Iranians we can talk to, the better.

I try but number of Iranians inside of Iran who be able have actively role in this site is not enough

an dI try to develop and expand my knowadge of English language

didn't you see some improving?
 
I have a question Persian Boy:

Why is it that Sunni and Shiite Muslims hate each other so? From what I understand, the two 'denominations,' for lack of a better word, stem from a disagreement between who would be the next Caliph, and the Sunnis followed one guy and the Shiites another.
So, given the pettyness of such a diasgreement, why is it that the two cannot get along nowadays, it having been so long since said diagreement took place? For example, Catholic and Protestant Christians, when Protestantism was young and first broke from the Catholic Church, they did not get along at all. However, as years turned to decades, and then to centuries, the two now live side-by-side, and think nothing of it. I am Episcopal, a Protestant denomination, and I have very close friends, even family members, who are Catholic, but also who are Baptist, Lutheran, and some who do not believe at all. Yet, despite these theological differences, we still love each other just the same.
 
PersianBoy said:
I try but number of Iranians inside of Iran who be able have actively role in this site is not enough

an dI try to develop and expand my knowadge of English language

didn't you see some improving?
You're doing great. :thumbsup:

I recently read a book called "A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East written by David Fromkin.

The book is about the changes that occurred in the Middle East around World War I.

Do you feel the Middle East would be better off if the Ottoman Empire was still in existence today? Could you read this book if you wanted?
 
Hey PersianBoy, Great thread!!

I have two questions:

1) What is the national sport of Iran? is it Football?
2) What are the most popular football clubs in Iran?
 
whats the iranian outlook on the sepatate denominations of christianity?
[namely catholics and protestants]

when was persia re-named iran, and which name is preferred?

do you find the civilopedia entry on persia annoyinG?

your english is better than my french, anyway. :)
 
PersianBoy said:
I check UniPers that offers do the same thing with our alphabet like Turks do (I think at the end of Otthman empire time they change alphabet of thier language from arabic to Latin for better and easy understanding, from first days of contacts of Iranians and other muslims with new civilization of western countries this recommondation had exist and some nations like Turks change their alphabet but not Iranians)

That's right. In 1928, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk changed the alphabet to Latin because he wanted his country to be European.

but I thing this is immpossible in Iran because like Japanese like thier beautifull handwriting, Iranian like beautifull handwriting of poems of famous Iranian Poat like Hafiz, Saadi, Rumi and others

Good Don't ever change your beutiful Alphabet! It is part of Persia/Iran's heritage and history. 90% of the arguements on that site are easily debunkable. Turks today can't read anything of the Ottoman era don't let future Iran be the same way!

While we're on the topic of language, Is Persian an easy language to learn if your first language is English?
 
PersianBoy,

I ran across this, please tell me what you think. Does this kind of thing happen in Iran? Caution rather graphic ...
http://www.truthnet.org/islam/Islamic-Justice/index.htm

If not it needs to be corrected, if it does I just don't understand it.

EDIT: The text on the images are Iranian News www.peykeiran.com it's all in Farsi and google was unable to translate it. However it is odd the the photo credit are in English.
 
I got to the 2nd picture and couldn't go any further. :sad:
 
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