Visorslash
Deity
Takhisis actually seeming to carr where the lynch wagon goes us a good sign for him
I think him voting GS is a more townie thing than not
I think him voting GS is a more townie thing than not
Aspiring Rapper's MAFIA- Game Thread
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Visorslash
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Ithink cuth might be town sadly
Just having a bad game
Just having a bad game
Visorslash
Deity
Xym is almost certainly town from my experience with him
Cass only having three Townies is pretty funny
Cass only having three Townies is pretty funny
This is Newyn's post about Cuth being a scum voting a fellow scum(Visor), jokingly.
Shortly after, Visor makes this post, in response:
I could very well see this being Visor scum with Cuth, trying to make Newyn look bad with him. Take a look for yourself:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=561948&page=5
Notice how he doesn't mind making further posts about this joke, as Newyn jokes back, and how he also mentions Cass, trying to pull her into the joke. Cass responds, also being in on the joke, and Visor is quick to also want to joke with her.
Meh, I hate explaining this - my gut feeling is that this is very much the case, just can't make it clear with words or simply quoting. But those are my thoughts, that Visor is trying to make Newyn and Cass look bad for later time in the game, abusing the "luck" that Newyn started the joke with a correct guess that Cuth is voting a scum buddy -> so it will look bad for Newyn, since he was the one starting the joke.
It is much in line with what I expect from a player like Visor(based on my impression of his mindset this game).
Also, notice this is towny of Cass - while she is in on the joke, she is still questioning/voting me, still having focus on solving:
Depends on who you think she is
Why doesn't it matter?
And can I check we're agreeing that you think it's fair to slightly out her since she asked for other games, or are you implying something else?
Ooooh, I missed that memo...
Also, I voted you. Slight difference
Unvote
Vote: Lassie
Why aren't you answering my questions?
Shortly after this joking about being scum buddies, Mat93 pops in, because he sees his scum buddy Visor joking in thread, and also wants to be a funny scum(how cute):
Is his response to Visor saying "Its D1. Lets just mislynch a villager.".
And here we have Cuth, also joining in shortly after - look how TMI this is if Newyn is in fact town:
Why even say that? lol. Why would the conclusion be that one of them have to be scum, and why ONLY one? wouldn't it be the logical thing at that point, to suspect they are scums together ,getting fancy in thread.
And Visor is quick to follow up on his tactic of throwing shade on Newyn:
one?
we're both scum.
Again, I can't really explain it better than quoting it and telling my thoughts, but I feel highly convinced of this theory(that Visor+Cuth are scums, and Visor was opportunistic when seeing a chance to make Newyn and Cass bad for future part of the game)
Also, here is Visor telling Cuth that Glossy is Lenore:
After this post, him and Glossy has several interactions, and Glossy has in no way denied to be Lenore, while(in my opinion) posted like she usually does(meaning Visor has no reason to change his mind on thinking she is Lenore).
Just look at page 8: this is where it happens http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=561948&page=8 - notice there is nothing that should had made him in doubt if it is Lenore.
Yet this posts suddenly comes, when Glossy talks about his play style:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=14135879
On PAGE 11 !!! look how much they talked from page 8 to the point that he suddenly asks who she is. It makes 0% sense why he would be in doubt of that.
"Well if you are Lenore".... He knew she was Lenore, I have absolutely no doubt. I pointed this out already yesterday, and I do it now again, because it is so clear evidence that he is in a scum mindset.
Also, lets go back to Page 8, here is further evidence of Visor+Cuth being scum partners:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=561948&page=8
Look how Cuth sponges Glossy when she says that Visor is playing off his meta. Then when Visor asks Cuth what his meta is, Cuth answers:
LOLOLOL - that answer is terrible. He has just said that Visor is playing off his meta, yet he don't know what his meta is.
Visor knows that makes no sense, so he replies:
But notice, that he doesn't call Cuth scummy for it. He only points out the logic flaw, but he doesn't make the conclusion that he is scum. Why? If Cuth is town, why wouldn't he use this to scum read him? I mean, it's a perfect catch of a huge logic flaw.
He doesn't, because they are scum buddies. It's that simple.
Cuth tries to save it, by suddenly knowing Visor's meta:
Visor ends the subject with this post:
Burden is on you here.
You both claim I am off meta. But you don't have an answer when I ask you what my meta is.
He puts Glossy+Cuth in same box, saying none of them knows his meta, so he avoids to further mention how bad those posts of Cuth were. Smart.
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This is all evidence I care to serve for you, for today, as for who the scums are. I feel just as sure that Mat93 is scum, almost also that sure with Murska, Xym and Landlubber. Especially now that I see how Newyn are probably never scum with Visor(even though Newyn's own posts could make it seem like it).
I repeat, the scum team is: Visor+Cuth+Mat93+Murska+Xym+Landlubber. Tonight you will see the scum team NK'ing a vanilla town(me), hoping you will forget this and goof enough that they can still win.
Just look at their(Mat93, Murska and Landlubber) scummy reactions and convenient pop-ins today, in the short time after I made my post declaring them the scum team.
Also, notice how Visor have done absolutely no solving today - he is in full blown commentator mode, only trying to see if he can cause some confusion. This is NOT town Visor.
Also, notice how he turned his strong town read on me from yesterday, into a vote today, after I made my first post, calling him and what I believe was the majority of his scum team scums. I had said it would be all from me today, so he probably thought that was an opening for him to push a lynch on me. He knows I'm vanilla town, as I claimed that yesterday, so he would prefer not to have to NK me.
So, it's simple guys/girls, just follow my reads - I've done unhealthy amount of work to assemble the pieces in the puzzle that is this game, so don't let that be wasted, please.
Link to video.
Out!
Visorslash
Deity
Nac, have you even seen a town game of mine?
Whatever, I regret defending you d1. Who knew that hunting for Townies would backfire so horribly
I'm not really keen on fighting this lynch, I have lost a lot of enthusiasm for this game
You need to remember that scummy behaviour doesn't equal scum for some.of these players, better to read the motivations behind things before you jump to conclusions
(looking at you g's, you should know better)
Whatever, I regret defending you d1. Who knew that hunting for Townies would backfire so horribly
I'm not really keen on fighting this lynch, I have lost a lot of enthusiasm for this game
You need to remember that scummy behaviour doesn't equal scum for some.of these players, better to read the motivations behind things before you jump to conclusions
(looking at you g's, you should know better)
Visorslash
Deity
Inb4 posts about me conceding (which if anyone here actually knows me, I never throw in the towel as mafia but again, I don't expect anyone here to have learnt after years of playing with Mr)
Zack
99% hot gas
are you really that narcissistic to actually believe this
Visorslash
Deity
I still think kingmorgan is town, his d1 reminded me of his push against me in demon council
Visorslash
Deity
The part about you going against my reads? You do it almost every game
Zack
99% hot gas
you always play the meta card and no one ever cares
Visorslash
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Well, it'd be a surprise if they did. Cfc mafia isn't exactly known for great town play
Cuthillius
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visor is trying to drag me down with him, if you notice
the man is scum
the man is scum
Mat93
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@Cass I was using their words. Not my own. See Lassie's post for another example from which I could quote them.
I'm happy with either a Lassie or Cuth lynch at this point. Visor...I don't think is scum. I give him more credit than that. I think its more just being annoyed at not having an easy game of it (as per his original comment way back in D1 before or when he first posted his reads). He's smart enough to run that as a gambit, for sure, but I don't think thats the case.
I'm happy with either a Lassie or Cuth lynch at this point. Visor...I don't think is scum. I give him more credit than that. I think its more just being annoyed at not having an easy game of it (as per his original comment way back in D1 before or when he first posted his reads). He's smart enough to run that as a gambit, for sure, but I don't think thats the case.
Zack
99% hot gas
first I don't think that's even true
second it could just as easily be phrased inversely (that you always go against MY reads) lol
"i am so rude i can't possibly be mafia because only townies are abrasive"
Cuthillius
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unfortunately i can't argue that coming into the thread guns blazing on a teammate is against my meta
but i am not scum partners with him
but i am not scum partners with him
Zack
99% hot gas
it's laughable that you think i'm that petty visor
Visorslash
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I do, sorry. We always fight in every game and I'm tired of it to be quite honest.
I'm sure you'll spin what I've said to be magically anti town but I'm not interested anymore.
KingMorgan
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Well based on this i'm happy to lynch, Visorslash/Mat93/Cuthilius
Visorslash
Deity
Look, there is a difference between gambits and annyoance.
Any annoyance I show at other players is generally not alignment indicative.
This game has been frustrating as hell for me to play.
I got 7 votes for not doing hardcore analysis 10 hours into a d1. I did that, and suddenly I have a ton of votes again D2. I'm not doing any more analysis, its unfair (IMO) to hold me to such a ridiculous standard, when you could read my posts and find almost zero scum motivation for anything I've done.
@Zack I knew if I posted anything that could even be construed as mildly complainy or whiny you would show up. Its newtons hidden law.
I don't think there is a point getting into this.
