B2 - Revenge of the Aztecs!

Good to see we've made some gains, albeit at the expense of science. We need to get to the point where we can get ahead in tech, therefore I aimed to maximize the gains from America, get peace and switch to Republic and infrastructure.


Inherited turn
No changes.

(1) 360AD
I decide on the target for the next attack. Miami would be counterproductive, as three out of six American cities are far enough away from it to be plagued with corruption. So I choose between Boston and San Fransisco. Boston would be more produtive for us if I get a leader and rush the Forbidden Palace at Washington. Boston it is then. I begin by massing troops in St Louis for next attack wave.

(2) 370AD
Well it happens sooner than expected. An elite horsie kills an American archer and a Great Leader is born [dance] He is sent into safer lands en route to Washington. We will get our Forbidden Palace. A couple of American Swords which have fortified themselves in the mountains are killed before they can reach St Louis. Our troops begin the march to Buffalo.

(3) 380AD
Great Leader arrives in Washington. Barracks is due there in three turns, so I decide to make the switch to Forbidden Palace after it completes. Greece moves units around St Louis and declares war. I decide a strategy of getting out of this war quickly, once I kill a few hoplites of course :)

(4) 390AD
Kill some greek horses and warriors :) I begin the attack on Buffalo, but they are blessed with super-spearman, who kills a couple of horses and makes a couple more reteat.

(5) 400AD
Barracks are completed at Washington. Start Forbidden Palace, and rush it using our leader there.

(6) 410AD
[dance] Forbidden Palace comes online [dance] Buffalo is finally captured and I move in ONE horseman with ONE hit point left :eek: Reinforcements are sent. We get two free workers from the capture though.

(7) 420AD
More dead Americans :goodjob: Swordsman reinforces Buffalo. I veto the current improvements and start walls at Buffalo and St Louis. FP lowers corruption, and as a result we increase science to 70%.

(8) 430AD
Walls complete at St Louis. I start a temple there as it's worryingly close to the current American capitol. I sue for peace with America. We get Denver plus all of their techs - 3 in total. Denver is miles out of the way, and I took it as a diversion for the Greeks. I have no intention of trying to keep it. I attempt to get peace with Greece, but they refuse our envoy.

(9) 440AD
Start Sun Tzu's in Tenochtitlan. We have gold EVERYWHERE and none of it is online or mined. Time to get it online in preparation for switch to republic once we're at peace with Greece. Greece shows little sign of a large army though, we're only getting sporadic archers and warriors,with the odd hoplite. I get the feeling they don't have any iron. Due to the low attack intensity, I switch a lot of cities to infrastructure, as we have plenty of troops. I also remove troops from American territory.

(10) 450AD
Greece refuses our envoy again. Denver keeps them busy, as they send a number of troops there to take it. I mass-fortify St Louis and Buffalo. The people think I'm doing a great job and add to the palace. Nearly everyone is now building Sun Tzu's.

(11) 460AD
(12) 470AD
(13) 480AD
Kill some Greeks, then talk them into a peace treaty. Despite taking Denver, they're stupid enough to not insist on anything else other than the peace treaty.

(14) 490AD
Switch to Anarchy, then to Republic. Greeks start Sistine. I notice that there is a palace placeholder at Teot, which I reserve for a head start on Sistine once we get Theology in three turns. More fortification of Buffalo.

(15) 500AD
Science reduced to (I think) 50%. Still doing better than we were on Monarchy.

(16) 510AD
(17) 520AD
I watch the exploring Chinese galley procession around our shores. Theology is researched and the Oracle is obsolete. I order up Engineering.

(18) 530AD
I consider Sistine to be more important so switch from palace to Sun Tzu's in Teot. Tenochtitlan is now building Sistine (switched from Sun Tzu's).

(19) 540AD
(20) 550AD
Easyname and Mountain city have serious disorder problems. I have to order up Entertainers, but Mountain City is now starving. Cathedrals ordered in both cities.

Well in summary not a bad set of turns. We are at peace with all other Civs, and we have the Forbidden Palace up and running. And we're a republic.

We have Sistine's and Sun Tzu's under construction. Hopefully we'll get one of them.

Here's the save.
 
Well I see the attack on America continued to go well :goodjob:

Quite a few more cities are ours, then when I finished.

I agree, we do need infastructure. A few more workes work be nice.

At some point soon, we want to kill American. More trouble then they are worth. The FP city can flip!
 
I'm not too worried about a flip in Washington. It's a good distance from the American Capitol (at Miami) and I'm pretty sure that our culture is MUCH stronger.

If we do resume hostilities with America, I recommend taking Miami last, as any capitol shift would bring it closer to Washington, and increase the risk of Washington flipping.
 
A litle starvation and a few more troops in Washington should prevent a flip :D

With the patch enough troops prevent a flip, but how many are enough? You end up with half your army in garrison to prevent flipping! One way Firaxis made it not too easy.. :)

Brian - On Deck
LKendter
Shdwlord
Arizona_Steve
Nanook - Playing
 
I was leaning towards war too, but since this is an SG, I like to leave as many options open as I can.
 
Preturn: Moved a few citizens around to get a little more production without losing WLTKD.

1, 1130: Infrastructure.

2, 1140: Again.

3, 1150: Democracy discovered(obviously we weren't the first since it went from 6 turns left to complete to done in one turn). Instant anarchy and goverment change later, we're a democracy. The Iroquois are really pissing me off. They keep wandering into our territory with large forces. They are always polite about leaving, but its the principle of the matter. Chemistry started so we can get Cavalry and lay a beating on Hiawatha.

4, 1160: Infrastructure.

5, 1170: Ditto.

6, 1180: Ditto.

7, 1190: Ditto.

8, 1200: Chemistry discovered. Metallurgy started.

9, 1210: Guess what?

10, 1220: Notice a pattern yet?

Ahhh yes the boring buildup phase. Actually, I rather enjoy that part of the game, but its a bit anticlimatic for a SG :) I'd like to teach the Iroquois a lesson as soon as we get MT.
 
Nanook, you seem to have played the wrong game! The one posted above is from B1! :lol:

Sorry, you'll have to download and play from Steves 550 AD one above!

Guess it's not my turn yet after all.
 
Hmmm....

Exactly why I try to NOT play the same country twice in succession games.

Of course, no moves yet. :crazyeyes
Despite being in LK13, B1, B2, GSG, OGSG, RDB11 ...
I am in famine mode right now.

Of course I will probably get 3 at once in war. And since war turns take much longer ...
 
Originally posted by lkendter
Hmmm....

Exactly why I try to NOT play the same country twice in succession games.


I agree. This was a special case since we weren't sure we would continue B1.

I'm playing from Steves last turn since Nanook hasn't come back to play his.
 
Preturn:
Consul Brian comes to power in the Aztec Republic. He notes that everyone has negatve attitudes except the Romans.

560 AD:
We sell Incense to Greeks for 80 gold plus 2gpt. Everyone else is too poor or is demanding too high prices for Engineering.

570 AD:
When did Greece take Denver?

580 AD:
The Aztec citizens love my rule so much they expand my palace.

590 AD:
We learn Engineering. The choice: Chivalry or Invention. I decide to go for Leo's.

The Egyptians and Indians are both building Sistines Chapel.

Mountain city is starving. I ahve to do something about this.. unfortunately all nearby workers are busy.

600 AD:
I notice Seattle is pumping out Regular Pikemen. I have a little chat with the Governor. He switches to marketplace.

610 AD:
Tlat is rioting. I send in the clowns. Japan joins the Sistine party.

620 AD:
At size 7, Steeltown becomes a worker factory.

630 AD:
The people love me so much they expand my palace.

640 AD:
MMWM

650 AD:
MMWM

660 AD:
The Americans want to trade world maps for all oour gold :lol: I give him our territory map so he can see all our nice flourishing American-named cities. :D

670 AD:
Easyname riots, I hire a Russian Bear Juggling act.

Chicago is finally linked to our road net.

680 AD:
Rome wants engineering for territory maps. I decline until he can offer me a better price.

690 AD:
We complete Invention and start Chivalry!

700 AD:
Land improvement is going well. Hopefully a good mix of irrigation and mines.

710 AD:
India complains about our troops in his territory. His borders expanded to include a Jaguar warrior trapped in 1 tile. Not much I can do. India will become annoyed next turn and the warior will move automatically.

720 AD:
MMWM

730 AD:
The Greeks are building Leos Workshop! I want Leo's! (Brian stamps his feet like a little child.)

I spot a potential first contact! A border in the ocean!


740 AD:
India is annoyed at our Jaguar. It moves automatically. Can't beat that speed of troop movement!
Steel town is no longer a Steel town as the nearby Iron source is depleted. A worker starts a road to bring the iron near Philidelphia online, as we have no Iron now!

We meet the backwards Persian people! They are far behind in tech and must be isolated. They only have 7 cities so they ae on an island. I trade territory maps.

The other civs are all broke and are not willing to trade communications.

750 AD:
Iron near Buffalo is brought online.
 
And the save:

Well, this was a productive turn. Lots of improvements in structure and a new contact! I didn't trade contacts with anyone as they are all broke.
 
Originally posted by Brian J
Well Lee, you have your peaceful turns..

Brian
LKendter - Playing
Shdwlord - On Deck
Arizona_Steve
Nanook

Since I just spent 4+ hours on LK13 fighting Russian cities from hell - Gee, kill 10 defenders, but Russia keeps the city :crazyeyes

As for the peaceful turns, when you get feast mode with your civ games, and have to finish 4 war happy games the same night.... :die!:

Will post a turn tonight, after work.
 
I'm sorry about not being able to get back. I finally have a closing date for my house(this Thursday yay!) and all the craziness of the last minute stuff is going on. I'll try and check back more often, but no promises. And once Thursday hits I'm going to be offline for a day or two completely while I move into my new house.

*copied to both threads*
 
Preturn -
I micro-manage 2 turns off of Sun Tzu. I switch Washington to Leo's, due in 32 turns. Greece /

China have education! Not great deals but Incense to China for $48. Gems to Greece for $48.
Lot's of troop movement.

760 AD - Mountain city begins a market place. Since I micro-managed both gems to be used, I want to get max benefit.
I start research on Education. I want to get Smith's!
America starts the Chappel :lol: Gee, we get it an couple of turns.

780 AD - [dance] We get the chappel [dance] Cascades to Leo's / Sun Tzu.
790 AD - Border Alert - Border Alert, unknown civ, must identify. What is this north of Persia?
:cry: Mr. Lincoln is still the cry baby my daddy fought. Complains because most of our army crossed there borders :cry:
800 AD - :die!: Baltimore is now Aztec. Along with San Fransico. Miami cost a couple of horsemen, but add it to our list.
;) We contact the English, talk about a backwards people. They pay $20 for our territory map. They want to buy currency, philosphy, horseback riding, etc!
810 AD - Add New Orleans to our city list.
820 AD - GACK! China starts the observatory GACK!
830 AD - Detroit is destroyed. The fledglin Americans are dead. Our Jaguar did the job.
Palace expansion #2 for me.
840 AD - Research going to Banking. [dance] I don't believe it, but we get Sun Tzu [party]
850 AD - Science to 50%, banking down to 8 turns.
:eek: Why did it have to be GREECE to get Leo's???????
I switch Washington to palace.
860 AD - Hangchow completes observatory.
890 AD - Dye Town is formed. We barely beat everyone to this spot.
910 AD - Contact is becoming known, so I sell contact and maps for a few bucks.
930 AD - Uh, where did Lee go?

Summary -
Newtons in Mountain city. This city is the ultimate wealth generating city we have!
The palace is Washington is for Smith's Smith's due in 8 turns.
 
Yea, I had to clean up the "trash".

Of course, knowing the would be productive, add several gems to our network, give us a dye source - Hmmm... I doubt that influenced my decsion :rolleyes:


The ulimate culture flip solution - nobody to flip to :p
 
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